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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #45 on: January 20, 2024, 05:30:12 PM »
I would like to ask again if AI-generated content should be allowed or not. Generating content with AI and Copy pasting posts from other sources (Which is plagiarism) should be the similar (if not same) offense and they should be punished. I would like to hear the community feedback and comments from admin or officials would be appreciated.
So far, from what I have learnt is, we can not plagiarize here and using AI to make posts and publishing here also comes under plagiarism so I doubt AI is allowed here. And considering the BTT rules I can say we should not practice to share AI generated posts here. And what need is there for us to share AI generated posts. We can make our own posts in a matter of minutes. I mean I can write a post in less then 10 minutes considering the post is general and not related to any news.

I recommend you to read this section so you could get better idea about the badges, from which to avoid and which to get. https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=184767.0 If I am not wrong you are the one who mentioned this link in another section, Am I right?

Other than this, creating AI generated posts seems like a spam, because we are not putting our own efforts into the post.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #45 on: January 20, 2024, 05:30:12 PM »

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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #46 on: January 20, 2024, 09:29:26 PM »
In my opinion, AI-generated comments or topics should not be allowed on this platform, because if they are, then there will be a lot of users who will make it a tradition to only publish AI contents here instead of thinking critically and producing a real idea and suggestion. Using AI to create posts is the same as plagiarism because it is not the original idea of the user who published it.

Someone said before that if any user actually needed an opinion or answer to a question, they should have asked an AI tool, but because they needed human ideas, they decided to seek human ideas and suggestions. So, it will not be wise to use AI instead.

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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #47 on: January 21, 2024, 06:14:30 AM »
We are humans who are in the Altcoinstalks forum and create interesting discussions for all members.
AI or whatever is like the robot does not need to make a post or discussion at the Altcoinstalks forum because it will only be an incomplete spectacle.

Anyway, what are the advantages for us if we have to use AI?
Make it easier or is we "lazy to discuss" in the Altcoinstalks forum?
If the answer is "lazy" to discuss in the Altconstalks forum, so just rest or do not need this log anymore, we are really humans who discuss each other.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #48 on: January 21, 2024, 08:10:04 AM »
So that all the people who post in this thread get an idea of ​​what is happening, and see more clearly the problem that would be allowing posts generated by AI, I am going to put a screenshot of a post that I deleted yesterday.



Do you see what the forum would become if we allowed AI generated posts?. I don't think it's necessary to say much more. That "user" didn't even bother to delete some parts of the text to "hide" the use of GPT or a similar bot.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #49 on: January 21, 2024, 08:27:05 AM »
Do you see what the forum would become if we allowed AI generated posts?. I don't think it's necessary to say much more. That "user" didn't even bother to delete some parts of the text to "hide" the use of GPT or a similar bot.
Yes, such users don't really care much about the GPT or other bot generated texts because they just want to increase their posts and nothing else. I think it's better to create a thread where users can report all such posts that were generated with the help of AI text generators.

There is a thread in Bitcointalk forum to report such posts and I think a similar thread should be created here so users can find and report all those posts that were generated with AI text generators.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #50 on: January 21, 2024, 11:04:21 AM »
There is a thread in Bitcointalk forum to report such posts and I think a similar thread should be created here so users can find and report all those posts that were generated with AI text generators.

I have suggested the same thing and asked one of the mods if he could create a thread like this. But, as he said, we should wait for the admin to come up and create a thread about it. Or, at least he needs the permission from admin to create such a thread. I don't know why it's taking soo long. Probably the admin wasn't informed about it or maybe he has more important tasks to do. I have reported a couple of posts already but I don't know if they were removed or not. Moreover, our local moderator is inactive for over a year now. So, I assume there are no one to handle those mess created by shitposters.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #51 on: January 21, 2024, 11:25:56 AM »
Yes, such users don't really care much about the GPT or other bot generated texts because they just want to increase their posts and nothing else. I think it's better to create a thread where users can report all such posts that were generated with the help of AI text generators.

There is a thread in Bitcointalk forum to report such posts and I think a similar thread should be created here so users can find and report all those posts that were generated with AI text generators.

While the administrator creates the new section to report posts generated with AI, users can always send a PM to a mod and those who can, give negative karma to that user, we will act as quickly as possible.

I have suggested the same thing and asked one of the mods if he could create a thread like this. But, as he said, we should wait for the admin to come up and create a thread about it. Or, at least he needs the permission from admin to create such a thread. I don't know why it's taking soo long. Probably the admin wasn't informed about it or maybe he has more important tasks to do. I have reported a couple of posts already but I don't know if they were removed or not. Moreover, our local moderator is inactive for over a year now. So, I assume there are no one to handle those mess created by shitposters.

It's true that there are some inactive moderators, but some of us are still here doing things the best we can. As for how long the administrator will take, I have no answer, what I do know is that he has a lot of work ahead of him and a list of priorities.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #51 on: January 21, 2024, 11:25:56 AM »


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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #52 on: January 21, 2024, 01:24:39 PM »
It's true that there are some inactive moderators, but some of us are still here doing things the best we can. As for how long the administrator will take, I have no answer, what I do know is that he has a lot of work ahead of him and a list of priorities.

It will be hard for global mods and other moderators to handle local reports. You may not understand what are they talking about due to the language barrier. We cannot rely on google translator. FYI, I have applied to be a Local moderator but I didn't get any response yet. I guess it is the president and Vice president who hire moderators. I didn't get any positive or negative feedback about my application. But I would be glad to work if you guys need a guy from my locals. About development works, I do not want to send Private messages and bother them. Since they have the priority list, they will have to follow them for sure. We should be more patient instead.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #53 on: January 21, 2024, 02:38:47 PM »
I have suggested the same thing and asked one of the mods if he could create a thread like this. But, as he said, we should wait for the admin to come up and create a thread about it. Or, at least he needs the permission from admin to create such a thread. I don't know why it's taking soo long. Probably the admin wasn't informed about it or maybe he has more important tasks to do. I have reported a couple of posts already but I don't know if they were removed or not. Moreover, our local moderator is inactive for over a year now. So, I assume there are no one to handle those mess created by shitposters.
I think anyone can create a thread like that in Bitcointalk such post was created by a reputed member of the forum not the admin. It was created by Nutildah on that forum and I think someone who can manage such thread should create a thread like that and give time to it.

That type of thread will be helpful for admins and moderators to fins all those posts that have been generated with AI. If you think your local board's moderator is not active anymore on this forum then I believe you or someone else who's active on that board should apply to be a moderator on that board. That way you guys can delete all those posts that are generated with AI.


the administrator creates the new section to report posts generated with AI, users can always send a PM to a mod and those who can, give negative karma to that user, we will act as quickly as possible.
If you think a board related to AI generated posts should be created by admins then that's fine but I think admin or the forum should allow some active members to create such a thread where users can report all those posts that have been generated with those AI text generators.

Sending messages to moderators and admin would cause much problems as they inbox will always get filled with such messages, and that's why it's better to create a thread where users can report such posts and moderators can then delete those posts.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #54 on: January 21, 2024, 03:02:40 PM »
I think anyone can create a thread like that in Bitcointalk such post was created by a reputed member of the forum not the admin. It was created by Nutildah on that forum and I think someone who can manage such thread should create a thread like that and give time to it.

That type of thread will be helpful for admins and moderators to fins all those posts that have been generated with AI.

It will be helpful, but it is not what I'm afraid to do or like that, it is just technically not allowed to do in the Decentralized Team section, to open a new topic. And this is the only correct section for such a topic, so all moderators to see the reported violation. If it was technically possible I'd opened it already.

Any similar topic in any other section has not much sense, because mods can miss or overlook posts in there.
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #55 on: January 22, 2024, 04:20:52 PM »
It will be helpful, but it is not what I'm afraid to do or like that, it is just technically not allowed to do in the Decentralized Team section, to open a new topic. And this is the only correct section for such a topic, so all moderators to see the reported violation. If it was technically possible I'd opened it already.

Any similar topic in any other section has not much sense, because mods can miss or overlook posts in there.

Make sense. But there is a reputation board as well which was renamed very recently. I guess that board fits for such thread. But, If you guys could take care of it, it will be better for the community. I am curious if you or other moderators talked to an admin about it or not. If we just wait for an admin to create such a thread without even asking him, then it may take a long long time to get a thread like that. He may miss our discussion. BTW, I know it's off topic, but I want to ask. Are you the same person in Bitcointalk username Jokers10?
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #56 on: January 22, 2024, 04:41:33 PM »
Make sense. But there is a reputation board as well which was renamed very recently. I guess that board fits for such thread. But, If you guys could take care of it, it will be better for the community.

You can open a topic in there, but mods can miss posts there.

Anyway more than a half of warnings on the most recent Warning Log page are for AI usage, so the problem is under monitor.

I am curious if you or other moderators talked to an admin about it or not. If we just wait for an admin to create such a thread without even asking him, then it may take a long long time to get a thread like that. He may miss our discussion.

You can try to attract his attention via chat on the main page. ::)

Are you the same person in Bitcointalk username Jokers10?

Why not? I'm not really hiding. ;D
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #57 on: January 22, 2024, 05:11:32 PM »
Anyway more than a half of warnings on the most recent Warning Log page are for AI usage, so the problem is under monitor.
That is good to know that moderators are taking care of those spammers. I am curious about one thing. Let's say you are a moderator of a specific section, could you handle a report that does not belong to the section where you are assigned? For example, let's say you are a mod for a Bitcoin forum. But, I have reported a post that is from my local board, can you handle it?

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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #58 on: January 22, 2024, 05:32:52 PM »
That is good to know that moderators are taking care of those spammers. I am curious about one thing. Let's say you are a moderator of a specific section, could you handle a report that does not belong to the section where you are assigned? For example, let's say you are a mod for a Bitcoin forum. But, I have reported a post that is from my local board, can you handle it?

Different moderators can have different rights, if someone is a local moderator only he can have moderator rights in his section only. I have some rights in more sections. If it will be not enough, we have global moderators who can help in other cases. As for your local board, we found this spammer a week ago and he got a warning. So you can share violations made at the local boards as well.

Haha. I was just curious about it. Because Jokers and Jokers10 are not same exact. But, I assumed it's you. So, Hi Jokers!  ;D ;D

Hi! This is not a teleported account, so it doesn't need to be the same, I was here before I signed up on BTT. And someone took the Jokers name there before me... ;D
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Re: Should AI generated post be allowed here?
« Reply #59 on: January 23, 2024, 08:45:52 AM »
For us ordinary members who have limited access in various subforums, it seems that for this post from AI I am not fully supportive.
We are real human beings in forums from various countries and have Altcoinstalks accounts to discuss each other, why do humans (members) want to be replaced by AI/Robot ??

But if the admin's job needs AI for goodnes and managing the forum can be calculated because the admin may not be active every day in the forum and certainly requires assistant.
I follow what is best for the good of the forum because until this moment I am still here in the Altcoinstalks forum and still feel comfortable, safe and peaceful.

 

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