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Wanna bet? Maybe an existing idea but I wanna try.
« on: February 15, 2024, 08:18:31 PM »
So the idea is, there is a video game called Efootball which is available on Android and iOS platform. (Also available for PC and other platforms). You can play it on your own and acquire player cards to make your team stronger. Also you can let your in-game AI play for you. It just and automatic play simulation.
I was playing it and an idea came to my mind. What if you can choose your player and bet on a game which will be streamed live on some video platform or if you want to join personally it could be done in a discord server as well.
(Note: the game will be played by AI on the hardest level)

It is not going to be a traditional betting kind of gambling. You will acquire points for each win for your chosen team and you can also choose one special player card and if that player scores a goal then you receive points as well.

And when you acquire enough point, you can redeem that point for cryptocurrency.
Let me know if you like this concept. Firstly I want to launch it freely. All you have to do is watch the stream and make your bet.
If it works well then I will consider adding paid option so that you can earn more.
Let me know what you think about this. If something like this already exists, I am sorry for bringing this up.
Cheers

(This might be a dumb idea! Ignore if you don't like it.)
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Re: Wanna bet? Maybe an existing idea but I wanna try.
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2024, 08:44:45 PM »

at first i have no idea what you are talking about so i looked it up on playstore. this must be the one you are talking about https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.konami.pesam&hl=en&gl=US

it would motivate users to learn whether the coins to earn can be traded to fiat. this is usually the ones that will make some users wanna play. but seeing most of them are saying you will be playing against the AI and the game lags all the time.

the top comment is below:
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It's a good game...enjoyable and lots of fun playing it. I gave it a 3 star because of these 3 problems. 1. It is very difficult to get coins. And almost everything about the game is getting better players with coins. If you choose to buy it with money.....then be reminded that you are about to go broke. 2. You can't choose the level of AI in training mode. The only option you have is changing the opponent team which is like a beginner level. 3. Online games with other players are laggy.

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Re: Wanna bet? Maybe an existing idea but I wanna try.
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2024, 08:55:02 PM »

at first i have no idea what you are talking about so i looked it up on playstore. this must be the one you are talking about https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.konami.pesam&hl=en&gl=US

it would motivate users to learn whether the coins to earn can be traded to fiat. this is usually the ones that will make some users wanna play. but seeing most of them are saying you will be playing against the AI and the game lags all the time.

the top comment is below:
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It's a good game...enjoyable and lots of fun playing it. I gave it a 3 star because of these 3 problems. 1. It is very difficult to get coins. And almost everything about the game is getting better players with coins. If you choose to buy it with money.....then be reminded that you are about to go broke. 2. You can't choose the level of AI in training mode. The only option you have is changing the opponent team which is like a beginner level. 3. Online games with other players are laggy.
Let me break it down for you. The game itself is playable without any lag or issues. But the problem happens when you are playing against someone online in a player versus player match. I already have an account in which I have acquired many players and the team is quite strong. And the coins that this review is talking about is not the point I mentioned previously in my post.

Here's a little bit of detail how the game should be played.
I can create a custom team with players that I have got. That custom team will be controlled automatically by the game AI and it will play against AI. I will have no input except for choosing the teams player. The gameplay will happen on its own. And the point you will get is not in game point. Let's say there is a game on going and you bet on a team, you could choose the custom team or the default team which the custom team will be playing against.

You can choose your one specific player either from the custom team or the default team. And if they score a goal you will also receive a point.

Let's say with 100 point you can get $10. For each win you get one point for example and for each goal by your chosen player will also give you one point.
It will be a series in which you will acquire point. And in the end you will be able to redeem those point. Also you will also lose point if your team loses. Or the player you choose does not score in that match.

There will be other additional rules added later on but now this is the basic plan.
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Re: Wanna bet? Maybe an existing idea but I wanna try.
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2024, 05:59:14 PM »


(This might be a dumb idea! Ignore if you don't like it.)

It's not a bad idea to share something in a forum, some will find it interesting it's up to members to appreciate what you're sharing, especially if the game you're sharing has a huge 100 million downloads but it is better to try it yourself, explore the game check all the features and the rewards before sharing it here so we'll get an actual idea its worth trying.
So update us on your experience if it's worth it.
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Re: Wanna bet? Maybe an existing idea but I wanna try.
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2024, 08:02:29 AM »
You are free to share everything that is existing in crypto/online world as long as this is not directly scamming people so this is a good share mate.
but asking if I wanna try , then this is going to be hard as I don't normally entering anything that does not get my interests, so if there are others that will try this here please update us to see how it works for you.

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Re: Wanna bet? Maybe an existing idea but I wanna try.
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2024, 08:42:00 AM »
People might find an exploit or buy lots of player cards and have more of an edge in a game which is a bad recipe if money is involved. You need to have it where both team are the same or close to the same in order to keep it fair.

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Re: Wanna bet? Maybe an existing idea but I wanna try.
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2024, 09:00:02 PM »
People might find an exploit or buy lots of player cards and have more of an edge in a game which is a bad recipe if money is involved. You need to have it where both team are the same or close to the same in order to keep it fair.
There is a option to do that, you can have the basic team for yourself too. In which both team won't have any kind of special player card that will give you an extra bit of advantage. And they will be trained to the max level for both of the team. And as for game control, both team will be controlled by the in-game AI and the result could be anything.
Also, having special player card will give you an advantage. Let's say if I add paid method later on, or spending your own coin which you have won on previous bets, this could be used to select spatial cards and that could increase your winning.
You can take 23 players in a game. If 11 people decides to use their point for special card, they will get X amount of extra point for winning. And if they lose they will get half the point back. For example, one player bets 10 coin for one special card. If the game is a win, he will get 12 point for that, and if he loses, then he will get back five.

I will have to do some trials and fix some errors but without practical experiments, it is hard to find them and fix them. I may do a test run in few days. I will let you know in this post and keep everyone updated.
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Re: Wanna bet? Maybe an existing idea but I wanna try.
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2024, 09:00:02 PM »


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Re: Wanna bet? Maybe an existing idea but I wanna try.
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2024, 09:24:30 AM »
I won't call it a dumb idea because it seems to be a good idea, however it's not that hard to hack such games and if someone who's good at hacking reverse the code of the game and makes his cards stronger then things might be in that person's favor. An hacker who knows reverse engineering and live memory hacking can easily hack the values of even basic team.
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Re: Wanna bet? Maybe an existing idea but I wanna try.
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2024, 11:11:52 AM »
Idea of yours it seems to be very productive, feel free to share more so that can be explain in details for people that will come by. In crypto investment there is always a risk for get profits. This one is quite small where you get for small investment about further than double profit? For example if you invest 0,1$ you can get even maybe x10 or more? I know many gamble sites which you can find from ads such in etherscan and bscscan sites.
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Re: Wanna bet? Maybe an existing idea but I wanna try.
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2024, 08:48:21 PM »
I won't call it a dumb idea because it seems to be a good idea, however it's not that hard to hack such games and if someone who's good at hacking reverse the code of the game and makes his cards stronger then things might be in that person's favor. An hacker who knows reverse engineering and live memory hacking can easily hack the values of even basic team.
While reading the OP I thought as much, a good hacker can hack the game and believe me when I say the security of such games are not quiet strong but when the owner of the teams is a good computer literate he or she can secure his or her team from hackers. Also, anything that have to do with AI can be hackable. However the OP already mentioned the problems of the Efootball games and the team which means the game is not completely interesting because of its issues.
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Re: Wanna bet? Maybe an existing idea but I wanna try.
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2024, 11:25:32 PM »


(This might be a dumb idea! Ignore if you don't like it.)

It's not a bad idea to share something in a forum, some will find it interesting it's up to members to appreciate what you're sharing, especially if the game you're sharing has a huge 100 million downloads but it is better to try it yourself, explore the game check all the features and the rewards before sharing it here so we'll get an actual idea its worth trying.
So update us on your experience if it's worth it.
Really this shouldn't be written off as a dumb idea as you are very right with your reference of this games, I look it up on play store and I see that the game have some good reviews which shows that it users are indeed enjoying playing it, but then also it's like a regular game and players can't stake real money to the game.

I think it is best we take the game to be a form of a demo games that we can practice from before or just for the fun of just playing game and nothing more, just as we have in other mobile games.

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Re: Wanna bet? Maybe an existing idea but I wanna try.
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2024, 12:40:12 AM »
Betting is fun doe, most especially when you're winning, but as a person that wants to start betting for the first time I will advise that you minimize the way you bet and also stake for fun, not with the aim of making money because betting is based of luck.
You should have self control because once it turns to your addiction,  you will have more to loose than to gain.
Even for those that has made betting an addiction i will still advice that you minimize your level of betting, because when you bet all your money and loose, you will begin to take unnecessary loans and it will bring your financial statis down. Always stake wisely...

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Re: Wanna bet? Maybe an existing idea but I wanna try.
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2024, 01:38:54 PM »
Well this is entirely a workable idea and at best we have to agree that it will take a lot of work for such an idea to produce the desired good results if not from its first instance,  it look as if the overall idea is a lost course but along the way and when taken a closer looked at you will see the potential of the idea to works out well.

Although in the current game formation,  there is a lot of room for exploitation of the game by a player and also a system that may have a widely open back door that could be exploited,  but since the ops stated that there are ways different to have the players cards and put everyone at an equal advantage,  then we may have to give it that try to see what exactly we get.

 

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