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Can Gambling be One of the Reasons for the Decline of Violence in Sports Viewing Centres?

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Many times we see such unpleasant incidents in TV headlines where a friend kills a friend due to gambling or many unpleasant incidents are made due to gambling. People who think gambling is just fun should read this kind of news regularly. Usually there is nothing like this in online gambling, but in all offline gambling, such incidents happen more often. Two friends sat side by side and gambled one friend lost and the other friend won but the friend who lost refused to pay the money to the winning friend but this will create a bad situation between the two people basically this is how such incidents happen.

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Many times we see such unpleasant incidents in TV headlines where a friend kills a friend due to gambling or many unpleasant incidents are made due to gambling. People who think gambling is just fun should read this kind of news regularly. Usually there is nothing like this in online gambling, but in all offline gambling, such incidents happen more often. Two friends sat side by side and gambled one friend lost and the other friend won but the friend who lost refused to pay the money to the winning friend but this will create a bad situation between the two people basically this is how such incidents happen.

Your analogy shows one of the benefits of online gambling. If everybody is compelled to gamble online, the problems associated with offline gambling can be prevented. I have witnessed a gambler abuse and threatened a casino worker after he lost.

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I had a flashback of when my friend was stabbed in a viewing centre by a rival fan and then I wondered if people still fight in viewing centres.
Firstly, I am sad about this because sport should not be able to harm other people or even take lives.
Supporting your favorite sports team is fine, but if you have to commit violence that can kill you, it is the same as breaking the rules in force in that country.

Is this the same in your country? Can this be one of the silent goods of gambling activity?
In my country, the most crucial thing is football, it is very scary if we look directly at the stadium in a match, especially if the match is a mortal enemy.
Indonesian League 1 has also become a trending topic at the Kanjuruhan Stadium, Malang. Hundreds of lives have been lost due to the use of tear gas by police during riots.

But I don't really understand the problem of gambling because the majority in my country are Muslims and many avoid gambling.
I'm sure there are also many people who gamble on football, especially big matches like Persib Bandung vs Persija Jakarta, but unfortunately I don't really know about the gambling section where they gamble.
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I had a flashback of when my friend was stabbed in a viewing centre by a rival fan and then I wondered if people still fight in viewing centres. I couldn’t get any recent cases of violence in viewing centres and in my thinking, one of the reasons is the rise of gambling activities. The last time I witnessed fighting in a sports viewing centre was April 24th 2012 in a Champions League match between Barcelona and Chelsea. That game ended in a 2-2 draw.

Since the rise of gambling activities, it has become difficult for people to fight in sports viewing centres. The fight is not between rival fans but a cold war between gamblers and the Bookies. Every gambler wants to win and their major concern is the outcome of the game so it is between them and their tickets. Yesterday, a Chelsea fan double-chanced Brentford City and he won. Fans who are gamblers are more concerned with making money and not ready to fight for the team they support and this drop in patriotism has prevented rival fans from fighting during matches.

Is this the same in your country? Can this be one of the silent goods of gambling activity?


Except that they watch it online and also gamble online, people still fight in most viewing centers and most especially when the team they bet to win is loosing, and the fan of the opposition are making gest of them, you know the pain of loosing your money on beting.
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Looks like your country is far from mine , I know that there are violence in sports but not against bookies and other gambling platform .
but i think i get what you are getting here and yeah violence in sports are truly getting lesser now because of online gambling since people need not to get out of house and they just need to play in many places aside from going elsewhere .

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I had a flashback of when my friend was stabbed in a viewing centre by a rival fan and then I wondered if people still fight in viewing centres. I couldn’t get any recent cases of violence in viewing centres and in my thinking, one of the reasons is the rise of gambling activities. The last time I witnessed fighting in a sports viewing centre was April 24th 2012 in a Champions League match between Barcelona and Chelsea. That game ended in a 2-2 draw.

Since the rise of gambling activities, it has become difficult for people to fight in sports viewing centres. The fight is not between rival fans but a cold war between gamblers and the Bookies. Every gambler wants to win and their major concern is the outcome of the game so it is between them and their tickets. Yesterday, a Chelsea fan double-chanced Brentford City and he won. Fans who are gamblers are more concerned with making money and not ready to fight for the team they support and this drop in patriotism has prevented rival fans from fighting during matches.

Is this the same in your country? Can this be one of the silent goods of gambling activity?

I vote No, I dont see a direct relations between gambling and a decrease in the level of fighting and violence between sports fans.
Absolutely unrelated, the decline of violence is actually due to the increasing awareness that if the fans cause trouble, the club will be fined.

Fanatic : a person who is extremely interested in something, to a degree that some people find unreasonable
I think someone who is truly a fanatical supporter of a team will never bet on their opponent to win.
This means he is just an ordinary Chelsea fan, not a hardcore Chelsea supporter.

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Re: The Rise of Gambling and the Decline of Violence in Sports Viewing Centres
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2024, 08:40:00 AM »
I will agree with you on this that gambling activities has reduced hooliganism and violence levels not only in viewing centers but also in the stadiums as many fans are not too concerned about what their teams play but how they can make money from the games been played, this is one of the best things that has happened with the rise of gambling activities. Like in my country football fans even bet against their team now some that where impossible back then because only an opposing fan talking bad against a club can result in a fight. Overall I can say that gambling activities has made many people to become wiser and has opened their eyes to the money flowing world of sports as these teams they support is also about making money so why don't they follow suit in making that same money

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Re: The Rise of Gambling and the Decline of Violence in Sports Viewing Centres
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2024, 08:25:17 AM »
~snip~
Is this the same in your country? Can this be one of the silent goods of gambling activity?

In my opinion, there is no connection between the decline in venue violence and gambling activities, as they are unrelated issues. The primary cause of violence in sports venues is often die-hard supporters of teams. Therefore, the decline in such violence might be due to increased security measures.


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Re: The Rise of Gambling and the Decline of Violence in Sports Viewing Centres
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2024, 11:37:53 AM »
In my opinion, there is no connection between the decline in venue violence and gambling activities, as they are unrelated issues. The primary cause of violence in sports venues is often die-hard supporters of teams. Therefore, the decline in such violence might be due to increased security measures.
i would agree that there is probably no correlation or even causation between venue violence and gambling activities but i also would not credit the decrease of venue violence to security measures because i have seen venues with strict security still experience some venue violence if an attacker is already in the venue and he has already done something to a fellow fan there is nothing much security can do but take him out of the venue but the harm was already done

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Re: The Rise of Gambling and the Decline of Violence in Sports Viewing Centres
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2024, 10:42:01 PM »
Is this the same in your country? Can this be one of the silent goods of gambling activity?
Recently, there was another case of someone stabbed to death during that Arsenal against Liverpool game, which shows that gambling has not actually reduced violence in sports viewing centers.

Be careful still when you go to viewing centers to watch games; violence is still possible from a rival fan. To avoid such happenings, be careful with who you exchange words with in the center; they may be temperamental, and you may never know.
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Re: The Rise of Gambling and the Decline of Violence in Sports Viewing Centres
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2024, 08:24:27 AM »
Recently, there was another case of someone stabbed to death during that Arsenal against Liverpool game, which shows that gambling has not actually reduced violence in sports viewing centers.

Be careful still when you go to viewing centers to watch games; violence is still possible from a rival fan. To avoid such happenings, be careful with who you exchange words with in the center; they may be temperamental, and you may never know.
world is so cruel because of violent people like this

can you believe that someone is seriously capable of doing this? it is scary how you can just spend your day normally then suddenly you will be dead because of an angry fan some fans might be wary now of discussing sports with stranger because they might be a little too passionate and violent that if they disagree on something they might end up like this poor victim here

maybe some will choose to watch sports at home instead instead of outside and meet new people in fear of cases like this

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Re: The Rise of Gambling and the Decline of Violence in Sports Viewing Centres
« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2024, 08:31:16 AM »
Is this the same in your country? Can this be one of the silent goods of gambling activity?
Recently, there was another case of someone stabbed to death during that Arsenal against Liverpool game, which shows that gambling has not actually reduced violence in sports viewing centers.

Be careful still when you go to viewing centers to watch games; violence is still possible from a rival fan. To avoid such happenings, be careful with who you exchange words with in the center; they may be temperamental, and you may never know.
There may be some ardent supporter who do things out of passion. They know that it is a crime to do so but still such behavior is often seen. There are also some fans who can't control their excitement and instead get into a fight with a person over a trivial incident which later takes a dire shape. For which reason I agree with you that there should be no excessive excitement in the gallery for or against either ‍any team. Moreover, it is foolish to argue with others. There will be tension in the game situation but it is wise to keep it under control.

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Re: The Rise of Gambling and the Decline of Violence in Sports Viewing Centres
« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2024, 11:05:15 AM »
Recently, there was another case of someone stabbed to death during that Arsenal against Liverpool game, which shows that gambling has not actually reduced violence in sports viewing centers.

Be careful still when you go to viewing centers to watch games; violence is still possible from a rival fan. To avoid such happenings, be careful with who you exchange words with in the center; they may be temperamental, and you may never know.
world is so cruel because of violent people like this

can you believe that someone is seriously capable of doing this? it is scary how you can just spend your day normally then suddenly you will be dead because of an angry fan some fans might be wary now of discussing sports with stranger because they might be a little too passionate and violent that if they disagree on something they might end up like this poor victim here

maybe some will choose to watch sports at home instead instead of outside and meet new people in fear of cases like this

I would definitely be avoiding these kind of people especially if I see them in the Sports viewing center. So if there is a option no to go in the viewing center like staying at home and just use my phone to bet on the sports I'm into then online gambling is my first choice.

Dangerous guys, the bullies often watch the ones they can bully and remembers them because they are easy prey. Maybe it's for money that if these dangerous guys loses money they'd look for someone.




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Re: The Rise of Gambling and the Decline of Violence in Sports Viewing Centres
« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2024, 05:17:48 PM »
Violence continues to occur, but we may not have access to information about all cases of violence because not all of them are reported online. Some humans continue to reason in barbaric ways, so when they gamble, they always try to transfer their aggression to another person when they lose. Personally, I have seen a rival fan stab someone simply because his team lost and he lost his bet.

People differ in how they think and behave. Also, not everyone engages in sports gambling, so their focus is solely on the outcome of the game. If the team they support wins, they are overjoyed; if the team loses, they become enraged and are easily triggered to engage in violent behaviour. 
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Re: The Rise of Gambling and the Decline of Violence in Sports Viewing Centres
« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2024, 07:59:20 PM »
I had a flashback of when my friend was stabbed in a viewing centre by a rival fan and then I wondered if people still fight in viewing centres. I couldn’t get any recent cases of violence in viewing centres and in my thinking, one of the reasons is the rise of gambling activities. The last time I witnessed fighting in a sports viewing centre was April 24th 2012 in a Champions League match between Barcelona and Chelsea. That game ended in a 2-2 draw.

Since the rise of gambling activities, it has become difficult for people to fight in sports viewing centres. The fight is not between rival fans but a cold war between gamblers and the Bookies. Every gambler wants to win and their major concern is the outcome of the game so it is between them and their tickets. Yesterday, a Chelsea fan double-chanced Brentford City and he won. Fans who are gamblers are more concerned with making money and not ready to fight for the team they support and this drop in patriotism has prevented rival fans from fighting during matches.

Is this the same in your country? Can this be one of the silent goods of gambling activity?
Well, it sounds like gambling itself has actually decreased fan passion, and they're no longer motivated enough to fight for their favorite team ^^ If this is true, we'll see stadiums filled with cold gamblers instead of passionate fans!

I don't think gambling has this impact or "advantage". Gambling has its own market, where people who enjoy betting can participate whether they love sports or not. The issue of post-match violence has decreased thanks to better education and fan civility, and organizers also have strict management and control methods to prevent fights in the stands.
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