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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #45 on: May 16, 2024, 11:43:45 PM »
We need to elaborate on this two things, the campaign manager or organization may have to set their own requirement for considering a member to participate in their signature campaign, talking of karma, we have some people who have already received enough karma and were not that active to as at when they were in the past, we received karma because we have contributed well to a post, which i think the post history should be the reason why there should be acceptance into a signature campaign when a user is active, and giving a quality and consistent post.
For additional information, some campaign participants may be taken from people who were previously active on the btt forum and currently have the 'Teleported' badge. Maybe the posting history on this forum is not active enough to make a contribution, but it seems like other people also need to check the posting history on previous forums to ensure the quality of the discussions provided.

However, all decisions are in the hands of the manager and so perhaps if someone feels active enough and contributes a lot to the discussion in the forum, it may not be the manager's choice, because there are other parameters that are not written down and become the reference for a manager accepting the joining application.

For now, I think karma and active discussion are things that managers take into account.
But isn't it unfair for non teleported users here if the managers are checking how well or how active you were in another forum. We're promoting campaigns here, so the only post history being checked should only be here. Maybe in the past they have done that when the mixers campaign has just teleported here and there's no post history yet for most teleported users and the lack of applicants from non teleported users.

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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #46 on: May 17, 2024, 09:29:50 AM »
But isn't it unfair for non teleported users here if the managers are checking how well or how active you were in another forum. We're promoting campaigns here, so the only post history being checked should only be here. Maybe in the past they have done that when the mixers campaign has just teleported here and there's no post history yet for most teleported users and the lack of applicants from non teleported users.

Promoting campaign is not so much about being fair with users but much more about how effective a campaign can be. So if some teleported user is expected to be more effective after being accepted to participate in the campaign than someone who has more posts here, I think that the campaign manager will rather choose the first one. And if this campaign will be successful, we'll all win from that.
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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #46 on: May 17, 2024, 09:29:50 AM »

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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #47 on: May 17, 2024, 10:02:30 AM »
But isn't it unfair for non teleported users here if the managers are checking how well or how active you were in another forum. We're promoting campaigns here, so the only post history being checked should only be here. Maybe in the past they have done that when the mixers campaign has just teleported here and there's no post history yet for most teleported users and the lack of applicants from non teleported users.

Promoting campaign is not so much about being fair with users but much more about how effective a campaign can be. So if some teleported user is expected to be more effective after being accepted to participate in the campaign than someone who has more posts here, I think that the campaign manager will rather choose the first one. And if this campaign will be successful, we'll all win from that.
Well, I guess you have a point. Especially if the user applying to be part of the campaign despite being active and all posts made is just a shitposting, all nonsense and there's no interaction or having a discussion as they should be, campaign managers will probably look for other participants to meet their criteria.

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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #48 on: June 29, 2024, 10:35:44 PM »
Promoting campaign is not so much about being fair with users but much more about how effective a campaign can be. So if some teleported user is expected to be more effective after being accepted to participate in the campaign than someone who has more posts here, I think that the campaign manager will rather choose the first one. And if this campaign will be successful, we'll all win from that.
Experienced campaign managers have criteria and characters that they look for while selecting forum members to participate in their campaign and I know that one of them is the level of activity that the user has. If you check, you will notice that the very active members of this forum have signature campaigns that are promoting or do not have signature campaigns that are promoting simply because the signature campaign they were promoting before had paused or stopped. Campaign managers have to choose the best candidates to bring the best exposure to the project they are managing.
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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #49 on: June 30, 2024, 08:37:40 PM »
As an informative note, the latest signature campaign that has reached the forum, RoyalMix, has a list with the amount of karma (we can see it in the spreadsheet) that the users who have been accepted have. That is an indicator (which had to happen sooner or later) that managers are beginning to take into account the value that users bring to the forum. Adding value to the forum by helping, explaining or guiding where possible is the most valuable.
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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #50 on: July 01, 2024, 12:08:37 AM »
As an informative note, the latest signature campaign that has reached the forum, RoyalMix, has a list with the amount of karma (we can see it in the spreadsheet) that the users who have been accepted have. That is an indicator (which had to happen sooner or later) that managers are beginning to take into account the value that users bring to the forum. Adding value to the forum by helping, explaining or guiding where possible is the most valuable.
That is to say karma is going to be useful and very important in campaign. But there are some people that manager accepted that were not active in the forum for a very long time and came back because of the campaign and he selected them. And leaving out those who were active Since. Is that not too bad?

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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #51 on: July 01, 2024, 06:53:16 PM »
That is to say karma is going to be useful and very important in campaign. But there are some people that manager accepted that were not active in the forum for a very long time and came back because of the campaign and he selected them. And leaving out those who were active Since. Is that not too bad?

I guess it was only a matter of time before karma "could" be a deciding factor in signature campaigns, although the final decision will always be the manager of each campaign. It is also the managers' decision to accept or not users who previously "left the forum", they work on their campaigns in the way they like best, although my personal opinion is that this is not how a community is created.
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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #52 on: July 03, 2024, 07:52:30 PM »
Therefore, please admin and any other staff, or moderators should tell me if karma is one of criteria for participating in bounty or Signature Campaigs and there thread clearly stated that I have not seen then please. I will like to read the thread.  And I will also like to know the criteria to participate in signature campaigns that the forum spelled out.
It's not up to the admin or other staff to tell you what's the selection criteria for campaigns. Because it's up to the managers who are managing those campaigns. Each manager has their own way of selecting members. Which they might not reveal to avoid the wrong use of them. The basic criteria are written in the rules of the campaigns, for example, you are selected in a campaign and it has the criteria of "Must be able to wear signature and avatar".

So if you are able to wear your signature and avatar then you are eligible to apply. Now it's up to the manager to either accept you or not. Every campaign has its own criteria, and Karma is not one of them. I think managers see the quality of the post and rank.
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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #53 on: July 03, 2024, 09:09:11 PM »
Therefore, please admin and any other staff, or moderators should tell me if karma is one of criteria for participating in bounty or Signature Campaigs and there thread clearly stated that I have not seen then please. I will like to read the thread.  And I will also like to know the criteria to participate in signature campaigns that the forum spelled out.
It's not up to the admin or other staff to tell you what's the selection criteria for campaigns. Because it's up to the managers who are managing those campaigns. Each manager has their own way of selecting members. Which they might not reveal to avoid the wrong use of them. The basic criteria are written in the rules of the campaigns, for example, you are selected in a campaign and it has the criteria of "Must be able to wear signature and avatar".

So if you are able to wear your signature and avatar then you are eligible to apply. Now it's up to the manager to either accept you or not. Every campaign has its own criteria, and Karma is not one of them. I think managers see the quality of the post and rank.

I think admin has made his input on this matter from the first page if you were reading the comments on the first page, you would have seen it. Karma was not among the criteria for the selection of campaign participants before but at time goes managers have started using karma has the major priority to the selection. And we can see it from the recent concluded two campaigns that were opened.

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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #54 on: July 06, 2024, 04:27:20 PM »
It's not up to the admin or other staff to tell you what's the selection criteria for campaigns. Because it's up to the managers who are managing those campaigns. Each manager has their own way of selecting members. Which they might not reveal to avoid the wrong use of them. The basic criteria are written in the rules of the campaigns, for example, you are selected in a campaign and it has the criteria of "Must be able to wear signature and avatar".

So if you are able to wear your signature and avatar then you are eligible to apply. Now it's up to the manager to either accept you or not. Every campaign has its own criteria, and Karma is not one of them. I think managers see the quality of the post and rank.

What you say is correct, only managers decide (regardless of their individual criteria) which users are accepted in their campaigns, but as @Agbe says (+1), the karma of each user, sooner or later, will become an important factor. We must also remember that the administrator is working on an update to the karma system that will consist of the need to have a specific amount of positive karma in order to reach a new rank, and no, it has nothing to do with the BTT merit system, so no one should worry.
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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #55 on: July 06, 2024, 04:48:07 PM »
...and Karma is not one of them.
Then I will strongly disagree with you on this point. Before I even create this thread, I noticed that Yahoo, used karma to select his participants and that lead me to know the criteria because the admin and other staff said karma was not used to rank up and just a mere reward someone gives to you if your comment is reasonable and contributing to knowledge. So when yahoo used karma for his selection then I was moved to create this.

 And recently Icopress massively used karma for his two campaigns launched before last week and you can confirm it from the spreadsheet. And Icopress said, those who would wear the avatar and signature from the free campaign he launched had the opportunity to be selected to his campaign, but they where edged out from the application, and those who were not active in the forum and only visit when there is campaign were accepted. And I see that is not really good. And campaign is meant for those who have been active in the forum and not for just waking up accounts. And that should be added in the criteria whether the user is in the cartel, if he was not active then there is no need for accepting him. Let's say the truth sometimes.

Freemind thanks for encouraging users with +1. And good answers.

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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #56 on: July 06, 2024, 06:01:26 PM »
What you say is correct, only managers decide (regardless of their individual criteria) which users are accepted in their campaigns, but as @Agbe says (+1), the karma of each user, sooner or later, will become an important factor. We must also remember that the administrator is working on an update to the karma system that will consist of the need to have a specific amount of positive karma in order to reach a new rank, and no, it has nothing to do with the BTT merit system, so no one should worry.
One day later, karma become most important part for user get criteria for participating in campaign but all decision depend on each manager behind some user get less karma points but get accept on their campaign.
Most of all bounty manager of signature campaign here from bitcointalk forum, seems they will adopt the same way have adopt early in bitcointalk about merit requirement needed and in altcoinstalk forum they will use with karma point minimum to get participants in signature or campaign bounties.

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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #57 on: July 06, 2024, 06:27:40 PM »
Karma was not among the criteria for the selection of campaign participants before but at time goes managers have started using karma has the major priority to the selection. And we can see it from the recent concluded two campaigns that were opened.
Campaign managers may be looking at how many Karma's a member has before accepting them now, but i am sure that's not the only criteria and it may not be the most important criteria. I believe we should leave the managers to personally decide what their criterias are, without digging into it, you could be making very good posts, but without earning Karma very fast, so managers are going to pay more attention to the quality of posts the member makes.

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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #58 on: July 06, 2024, 07:25:15 PM »
But isn't it unfair for non teleported users here if the managers are checking how well or how active you were in another forum. We're promoting campaigns here, so the only post history being checked should only be here. Maybe in the past they have done that when the mixers campaign has just teleported here and there's no post history yet for most teleported users and the lack of applicants from non teleported users.

Promoting campaign is not so much about being fair with users but much more about how effective a campaign can be. So if some teleported user is expected to be more effective after being accepted to participate in the campaign than someone who has more posts here, I think that the campaign manager will rather choose the first one. And if this campaign will be successful, we'll all win from that.
Well, I guess you have a point. Especially if the user applying to be part of the campaign despite being active and all posts made is just a shitposting, all nonsense and there's no interaction or having a discussion as they should be, campaign managers will probably look for other participants to meet their criteria.
Since the managers are from the other forum, I believe that they have already worked with most of the participants that the choosein the other forum and they know that they are quality posters. This is why you see that the managers will select them even if they are not posting much here because I know that participating in signature campaigns will motivate everyone to be a tive and put in their best. Also some where also part of the campaign in the other forum and when they teleport their accounts here, it will be automatic acceptance by the campaign manager.

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Re: What are the Criteria to Participate in Campaign?
« Reply #59 on: July 06, 2024, 08:30:59 PM »
The forum, like everything in life, must evolve. What would not be normal is that any user who has an account only uses it to participate in signature campaigns and when there are no campaigns they do not contribute to the forum, they have the same opportunities as other users who are "always" here. I understand that we all have things to do in life, family, work... But we must be aware that signature campaigns, after all, are a privilege, and that this privilege cannot be shared in the same way for one type of user as for others.



Freemind thanks for encouraging users with +1. And good answers.

This is how we (all of us) improve the forum ;)



One day later, karma become most important part for user get criteria for participating in campaign but all decision depend on each manager behind some user get less karma points but get accept on their campaign.
Most of all bounty manager of signature campaign here from bitcointalk forum, seems they will adopt the same way have adopt early in bitcointalk about merit requirement needed and in altcoinstalk forum they will use with karma point minimum to get participants in signature or campaign bounties.

I think that sooner or later it will be like this, but that does not mean that all managers make the same decision or use the same criteria in their campaigns. It may be staggered, but time will tell.
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