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Author Topic: [Boxing] Tim Tszyu vs Sebastian Fundora for the WBO & WBC 154 Title - March 30  (Read 880 times)

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As we all know that Keith Thurman has backed-out of the fight against Tim Tszyu because of injury and that he his replacement is the lanky Sebastian Fundora.

Let's discuss about the chance of Fundora against a prime Tim Tszyu.

What are your thoughts about this fight guys?

https://www.boxingscene.com/full-pbc-card-fundora-steps-replace-injured-thurman--182268

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As we all know that Keith Thurman has backed-out of the fight against Tim Tszyu because of injury and that he his replacement is the lanky Sebastian Fundora.

Let's discuss about the chance of Fundora against a prime Tim Tszyu.

What are your thoughts about this fight guys?

https://www.boxingscene.com/full-pbc-card-fundora-steps-replace-injured-thurman--182268

Slim chance for Fundora to pull an upset. He is 4:1 underdog so that is big already. There is also the video of them having a face-off,



Towering Fundora, but Tim is not intimidated, and I think they already figure it out on how to beat Fundora. Just look for the body early is the obvious strategy for Tim. Target that mid section and go for that liver shot.
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Slim chance for Fundora to pull an upset. He is 4:1 underdog so that is big already. There is also the video of them having a face-off,

Towering Fundora, but Tim is not intimidated, and I think they already figure it out on how to beat Fundora. Just look for the body early is the obvious strategy for Tim. Target that mid section and go for that liver shot.
Fundora has an ugly loss and this is via knockout against Mendoza, he has a weak chin, and he loves to slug it out, he is very much suited to Tim's style who loves to go toe to toe.
Fundora is one lucky guy imagine he comes from an ugly loss and yet here he is fighting for the title not all fighters have that kind of opportunity, if he loses here he will slide to the standing because it's going to be 2 in a row.
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Fundora is also in his prime. Even younger than Tim, he however is not a KO artist with powerful punch.

Fundora I think learned his lesson against Mendoza so he will fight ulitizing his reach and will probably wait for Tim to attemp to go inside and Fundora can throw a big uppercut. Thats how I think the fight will playout if I have to vision Fundora to win.

If its Tim is to win, he'll need to get closer aiming for body shot then the chin.

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Fundora is also in his prime. Even younger than Tim, he however is not a KO artist with powerful punch.

Fundora I think learned his lesson against Mendoza so he will fight ulitizing his reach and will probably wait for Tim to attemp to go inside and Fundora can throw a big uppercut. Thats how I think the fight will playout if I have to vision Fundora to win.

If its Tim is to win, he'll need to get closer aiming for body shot then the chin.

Yeah, since Fundora is very tall, as we can see in the picture, the best weapon for Tim is to hit that body and to soften Fundora early. Brian Mendoza has already laid down the blue print on how to beat Fundora. So it's just for Tim to copy it, simply as that.

For Fundora to win, use his jab more and not let Tim go on his sweet spot, the fight should be in the middle as he will be vulnerable in the corner. And if he found himself in the corner, then turtle up and be as small as he can be and protect that body.

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Fundora I think learned his lesson against Mendoza so he will fight ulitizing his reach and will probably wait for Tim to attemp to go inside and Fundora can throw a big uppercut. Thats how I think the fight will playout if I have to vision Fundora to win.
Even if that's what they planned to do, I don't think Sebastian has the discipline to follow that strategy once he's hit by Tim. As you already said, he's younger.

A lot of the plans goes out the window and I think almost all boxers goes back to their natural style of fighting if they get hit hard.

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Slim chance for Fundora to pull an upset. He is 4:1 underdog so that is big already. There is also the video of them having a face-off,

Towering Fundora, but Tim is not intimidated, and I think they already figure it out on how to beat Fundora. Just look for the body early is the obvious strategy for Tim. Target that mid section and go for that liver shot.
Fundora has an ugly loss and this is via knockout against Mendoza, he has a weak chin, and he loves to slug it out, he is very much suited to Tim's style who loves to go toe to toe.
Fundora is one lucky guy imagine he comes from an ugly loss and yet here he is fighting for the title not all fighters have that kind of opportunity, if he loses here he will slide to the standing because it's going to be 2 in a row.
Yes, as the saying goes, style makes fight and with that, Fundora even at that height, is not suitable as this division. He is too tall, he can go to HW if he wants as he is too thin for his height. And that's why the odds are not favoring him, odd makers sees that he has week chin and doesn't have the qualities (no offense to his fans), to fight and score a upset. Tim has a lot of time to prepare for this fight and for sure he had adjustment that he will be fighting a taller fighter now.
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Slim chance for Fundora to pull an upset. He is 4:1 underdog so that is big already. There is also the video of them having a face-off,

Towering Fundora, but Tim is not intimidated, and I think they already figure it out on how to beat Fundora. Just look for the body early is the obvious strategy for Tim. Target that mid section and go for that liver shot.
Fundora has an ugly loss and this is via knockout against Mendoza, he has a weak chin, and he loves to slug it out, he is very much suited to Tim's style who loves to go toe to toe.
Fundora is one lucky guy imagine he comes from an ugly loss and yet here he is fighting for the title not all fighters have that kind of opportunity, if he loses here he will slide to the standing because it's going to be 2 in a row.
Yes, as the saying goes, style makes fight and with that, Fundora even at that height, is not suitable as this division. He is too tall, he can go to HW if he wants as he is too thin for his height. And that's why the odds are not favoring him, odd makers sees that he has week chin and doesn't have the qualities (no offense to his fans), to fight and score a upset. Tim has a lot of time to prepare for this fight and for sure he had adjustment that he will be fighting a taller fighter now.
This is only my assessment based on the number of fighters I have seen if you have the reach and the height advantage, you should capitalize on it, Tommy Hearns, Lennox Lewis, and Donaire have fought strong small boxers and they capitalized their reach, and height to beat their strong and small opponents.

Fundora's trainers inculcate the machismo type of boxer in his mind, which is why he goes toe to toe he should develop a stiff long jab and combinations like Lennox Lewis did in many of his fights.

If he goes toe to toe against Tszyu he will be in big trouble.
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If he goes toe to toe against Tszyu he will be in big trouble.

He will be in trouble indeed. It's a no-brainer that Sebastian Fundora will use his size and reach advantage as long as he can but Tim is a clever fighter and all he needs to do is to close the gap between them then the fight is going to be over if he could do that.

I reckon that this fight won't go the distance and it will be under seven rounds.




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If he goes toe to toe against Tszyu he will be in big trouble.

He will be in trouble indeed. It's a no-brainer that Sebastian Fundora will use his size and reach advantage as long as he can but Tim is a clever fighter and all he needs to do is to close the gap between them then the fight is going to be over if he could do that.

I reckon that this fight won't go the distance and it will be under seven rounds.



Both made the weight for their fight and so everything is now set. Looking at the over and under, you are spot on mate at 7.5 rounds. And if Tim can execute his plans of attacking the body of Fundora, then this fight is not going to last the full 12 rounds.

Fundora sooner or later might go and put his hands in his body to protect it and then Tim switching from body to the head if he sees that Fundora has adjusted, similar to what Brian Mendoza did to Sebastian.
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If he goes toe to toe against Tszyu he will be in big trouble.

He will be in trouble indeed. It's a no-brainer that Sebastian Fundora will use his size and reach advantage as long as he can but Tim is a clever fighter and all he needs to do is to close the gap between them then the fight is going to be over if he could do that.

I reckon that this fight won't go the distance and it will be under seven rounds.



Both made the weight for their fight and so everything is now set. Looking at the over and under, you are spot on mate at 7.5 rounds. And if Tim can execute his plans of attacking the body of Fundora, then this fight is not going to last the full 12 rounds.

Fundora sooner or later might go and put his hands in his body to protect it and then Tim switching from body to the head if he sees that Fundora has adjusted, similar to what Brian Mendoza did to Sebastian.

Fundora's physical attributes put him at a disadvantage against Tim Tszyu, I mean it is awkward to see a 6 foot 5 fighter fighting at 154 pound category. Yes, after Tim would Sebastian with some body shots, his head will fall as he will switch his defense to his body making the head vulnerable to Tim's power bombs.

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Slim chance for Fundora to pull an upset. He is 4:1 underdog so that is big already. There is also the video of them having a face-off,

Towering Fundora, but Tim is not intimidated, and I think they already figure it out on how to beat Fundora. Just look for the body early is the obvious strategy for Tim. Target that mid section and go for that liver shot.
Fundora has an ugly loss and this is via knockout against Mendoza, he has a weak chin, and he loves to slug it out, he is very much suited to Tim's style who loves to go toe to toe.
Fundora is one lucky guy imagine he comes from an ugly loss and yet here he is fighting for the title not all fighters have that kind of opportunity, if he loses here he will slide to the standing because it's going to be 2 in a row.
Yes, as the saying goes, style makes fight and with that, Fundora even at that height, is not suitable as this division. He is too tall, he can go to HW if he wants as he is too thin for his height. And that's why the odds are not favoring him, odd makers sees that he has week chin and doesn't have the qualities (no offense to his fans), to fight and score a upset. Tim has a lot of time to prepare for this fight and for sure he had adjustment that he will be fighting a taller fighter now.
This is only my assessment based on the number of fighters I have seen if you have the reach and the height advantage, you should capitalize on it, Tommy Hearns, Lennox Lewis, and Donaire have fought strong small boxers and they capitalized their reach, and height to beat their strong and small opponents.

Fundora's trainers inculcate the machismo type of boxer in his mind, which is why he goes toe to toe he should develop a stiff long jab and combinations like Lennox Lewis did in many of his fights.

If he goes toe to toe against Tszyu he will be in big trouble.
Well, there are a lot of great boxers that beat Tommy Hearns even if he uses his reach advantage, he has power but in the fight against Hagler, his physical attributes was no match for Hagler's chin. Same with Lennox when he was caught by Rahman but he eventually avenge that. Also with Donaire, losing Rigo. So there are fights that sometimes even if you are gifted physically, small fighters can give you a big problem if they possesses relentless attack, good chin and technical prowess and of course the power to knock you out.
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And so there was a upset in this fight, no body shots whatsoever by straight up bloodied fight between the two warriors. But in the end if was Fundora who win. Judges score the fight, David Sutherland (115-113 for Fundora) and Steve Weisfeld (116-112), while Judge Tim Cheatham marked it 116-112 for Tszyu.

Tszyu was cut though, throughout the fight, and it started with a elbow in round 2. And after that he really struggled in the next 10 rounds. And Fundora take advantage of it, albeit he also had blood in his nose and both corners had to really work it out to keep the blood from their fighters. There is a rematch clause in this fight, so let's see if Tim will exercise it.
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And so there was a upset in this fight, no body shots whatsoever by straight up bloodied fight between the two warriors. But in the end if was Fundora who win. Judges score the fight, David Sutherland (115-113 for Fundora) and Steve Weisfeld (116-112), while Judge Tim Cheatham marked it 116-112 for Tszyu.

Tszyu was cut though, throughout the fight, and it started with a elbow in round 2. And after that he really struggled in the next 10 rounds. And Fundora take advantage of it, albeit he also had blood in his nose and both corners had to really work it out to keep the blood from their fighters. There is a rematch clause in this fight, so let's see if Tim will exercise it.

Hats off to both fighters, they really gave everything on the line here, specially Tim as he knows what's on the line and its important for him to win and go back to Australia as a champion.

But Fundora can't be deny in this fight, we have underestimate the sky scraper, he game with a game plan. That accidental elbow though I would say really did it for Tim as it affected him mentally in the next 10 rounds.

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 He steals the round every tume and sure thing he used his reach advantage. I guess we'll be seeing Fundora vs Crawford later.

 So he acrually learned how he was defeated the last time and so this is his best to give a bloody fight against the bookmakwrs favorite.

 

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