User using AI on BTT, just teleported

[Lucius]

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AI-generated posts are not allowed on this forum.

It's good to know that the forum has a firm attitude towards this, because on BTT you will mostly get a permanent ban for plagiarism, but for posts that are even 100% generated with the help of AI, there is currently (as far as I know) no such punishment. The worst thing that can happen is that someone reports such a post and then the moderators delete the posts, and only in the case that someone is really persistent in this, the most severe punishment follows.

Unfortunately, there are people who don't see anything wrong with that, because they claim that with the help of AI they make their posts "more beautiful", whatever that means. However, the biggest problem is those who use what I would call the 4-source method - which consists of original user content, plagiarism, paraphrasing and AI. This mostly confuses even AI detectors depending on the methods and algorithms they use.

[Jokers]

However, the biggest problem is those who use what I would call the 4-source method - which consists of original user content, plagiarism, paraphrasing and AI. This mostly confuses even AI detectors depending on the methods and algorithms they use.

Don't give them advice how to complicate the work of moderators.

Yes, some try to avoid being caught by AI detectors but they forget that AI usually uses texts from Internet, so they are caught for plagiarism itself. And there can be other ideas how to fight with that nonsense as well, we'll try to use new tools as soon as find them. Some are caught months after they break rules and it should be even more disappointing for them, to lose a developed account. Better to not break rules.

[notblox1]

I think that admin is thinking of giving this member a clean start, so everyone get ready to detect AI generated posts.
Campaign managers should pay close attention to this member, if I was in that position I would not accept him in my campaign.

[electronicash]

I think that admin is thinking of giving this member a clean start, so everyone get ready to detect AI generated posts.
Campaign managers should pay close attention to this member, if I was in that position I would not accept him in my campaign.

yes why not. its good for people to have a 2nd chance in life.  a clean slate to start over will be good for the forum, this isn't a very populated forum yet unlike the other one. there is the need for this forum to welcome everyone.

i'm sure he knows he is being watched closely already. i guess he will play by the rules this time.
maybe there are violator there that might not be ignored and admin does have his judgement for the kind of violations. i'm sure there are unforgivable violations.

[Faisal2202]

Welcome to Altcoinstalks! Please don't teleport your shit spam AI posts habits too: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5490167.0

You kept a good eye, I like your love towards this platform, but I would say the good and bad deeds of the member are not to be used to judge while that member's deeds were on the previous forum and now he is on a new forum. As new forum has its own rules and regulations which pretty much are similar to BTT but it does not mean, that one member if not obey BTT forum rules, should be punished on another forum.

A second chance should be given to the new comer, and I hope by mentioning his name in this topic, he would be more careful in this forum while creating posts, he might leave the usage of AI completely but that's not an issue, the issue is just copying pasting things from one place to another is am act of immorality.

[SamReomo]

Campaign managers should pay close attention to this member, if I was in that position I would not accept him in my campaign.

I think if the user improves his habits and strops using of AI generated content then he may get a second chance, and even after the second chance that user continues doing the same thing again and again then such user should not be allowed to participate in a campaign.

I don't name a user but I have seen his reputation wasn't good on Bitcointalk, but on this forum the user is making some good and valuable posts, and that's why I believe that this guy could also change himself, and may do some good contributions in the campaigns.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Let's wait and see how they behave here.
On Btt he left the campaign, I assume that he will not try to apply in any campaign here because he says that he does not need it. He wrote 30-50 ^spam posts a day more for fun.

If he is probably someone who cannot write very well without the help of an AI, that means he definitely is going to use the bot on this forum, and he already has it in mind that he will not be accepted in any campaign on this forum if he uses AI because 99% of BTC signature campaign managers on this forum are still members of BTT who know they don't accept spammers and AI users into their campaigns. Like you said, he probably will only be positing for fun or will change his approach for a better resolution. 

[robelneo]

Campaign managers should pay close attention to this member, if I was in that position I would not accept him in my campaign.

I think if the user improves his habits and strops using of AI generated content then he may get a second chance, and even after the second chance that user continues doing the same thing again and again then such user should not be allowed to participate in a campaign.

I don't name a user but I have seen his reputation wasn't good on Bitcointalk, but on this forum the user is making some good and valuable posts, and that's why I believe that this guy could also change himself, and may do some good contributions in the campaigns.

He may have his second chance but he will be on a watch list once he uses the AI tool, I don't want to judge him here on Altcoinstalks as he did his bad deeds on Bitcointalk he must show he is treating Altcoinstalk differently and never to resort to AI.
I'm sure he learned his lesson because we can easily trace if he still uses AI to create a post, not a good welcome for him though but this is a challenge for him.

[Jokers]

I think that admin is thinking of giving this member a clean start, so everyone get ready to detect AI generated posts.
Campaign managers should pay close attention to this member, if I was in that position I would not accept him in my campaign.

He's not the first one who has a negative reputation on BTT and teleported here. Some violators already got warnings, so having a clean start doesn't mean we are tolerate to the rules breaking, but AltcoinsTalks is a friendly forum, so everyone has a chance to improve his behavior. If he will be positive and friendly and won't break rules, he can become a good member of our community. It is always a choice of everyone: to improve or to violate.

[borovichok]

Very good, paid2. Everyone deserves a second chance and just because he did things wrong on the other forum doesn't necessarily mean he's going to do them wrong on this one, but it's good to warn him in case he thought he could do the same and the managers wouldn't find out. I bet the managers investigate what the teleported members have done on the other forum.

We should be honest and say that he had not only a second but also a third chance at BTT, but obviously he can't do it without using AI. However, this is a different forum and different rules, so we'll see what happens in the end.

Now I understand why I received -1 Karma the moment I teleported here, most of you are bunch of lazy folks who don't read but rely solely on what some random cheap AI detector says and draw conclusions.

I'm still on my stand that non of my posts on the said forum was generated by AI. Stake were okay with my work, my post rating were great and their team didn't find any AI generated contents on my profile except bunch of lazy readers. I honoubly resigned from Stake cause I was becoming a topic of merit grabbing content and nobody was ready to listen to my story.

Regarding the allegations of post deletion, I used to make about 80 posts per week on average before reducing to 30-40 posts per week. Since the AI allegations , my posts deleted by mods from the day of the initial allegation to the day I transferred my account here totaled less than 30 posts that's 0.01% of my total monthly postings. Believe whatever you want but don't be a puppet.

[Lucius]

Don't give them advice how to complicate the work of moderators.

I think that those who consciously do it already know all the tricks very well, considering that the fight against such people on BTT has been going on for several years. The paradox that arises from the 4 sources method is that someone invests a lot of time to create something that is not entirely his personal work, and maybe he could create his own unique post in half the time.

Now I understand why I received -1 Karma the moment I teleported here, most of you are bunch of lazy folks who don't read but rely solely on what some random cheap AI detector says and draw conclusions.

Just for the record, I'm not the one who gave you negative karma - but calling people "bunch of lazy folks who don't read" is just another step in the wrong direction that you took without even starting your journey on this forum.

When you say that your posts were checked with "some random cheap AI detector", then you are telling a notorious lie because your post were checked with the top AI detectors that exist on the market, and all but one of them marked your posts as AI content.

Considering your attitude towards the users of this forum (and you quoted me), I decided that you are the right candidate for negative karma (my second since I became a member of this forum).

[borovichok]

When you say that your posts were checked with "some random cheap AI detector", then you are telling a notorious lie because your post were checked with the top AI detectors that exist on the market, and all but one of them marked your posts as AI content.

List the top AI detectors on the market ( these apps are clones and are still in a beta mode)

Considering your attitude towards the users of this forum (and you quoted me), I decided that you are the right candidate for negative karma (my second since I became a member of this forum).

You gave me -1 Karma cause you disagreed with my post ? Isn't Karma system for quality control? You ignored all the facts I started in my posts to cry over a statement I made. You guys messed up the DT feedback system and are already abusing the Karma system here too.  Wow.

@admin is this the appropriate use of the Karma system?

I disagree with his post can I give him -1 also?

[Lucius]

List the top AI detectors on the market ( these apps are clones and are still in a beta mode)

AI in the form it is used today appeared as early as 2018, and you are talking about beta versions?

You gave me -1 Karma cause you disagreed with my post ? Isn't Karma system for quality control? You ignored all the facts I started in my posts to cry over a statement I made. You guys messed up the DT feedback system and are already abusing the Karma system here too.  Wow.
@admin is this the appropriate use of the Karma system?
I disagree with his post can I give him -1 also?

Instead of reading the rules of the forum, you call the admin to explain the rules to you? I didn't give you negative karma because I don't agree with your post, but because you address me (and other members) in an inappropriate way.

• Positive karma is granted to users providing good answers, interesting questions, useful topics and helpful contributions to the forum
• Negative karma is given to users who are misbehaving, breaking the rules, being aggressive or disruptive to the forum

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[borovichok]

List the top AI detectors on the market ( these apps are clones and are still in a beta mode)

AI in the form it is used today appeared as early as 2018, and you are talking about beta versions?

When AI was developed and when these detectors were developed are two different era. I'm telling you that all AI detector are still in their Beta mode and not anywhere near 70% on rating.

Instead of reading the rules of the forum, you call the admin to explain the rules to you? I didn't give you negative karma because I don't agree with your post, but because you address me (and other members) in an inappropriate way.

If you had read between the lines and paid closer attention to my statement, you would have realized that I was referring to the DT abusers on the other forum rather than the users on this discussion. You should be open-minded and avoid feeling offended. I don't have anything against you.

Your tag is inappropriate and it's obvious. I mean no disrespect to anyone here honestly.

[notblox1]

Now I understand why I received -1 Karma the moment I teleported here, most of you are bunch of lazy folks who don't read but rely solely on what some random cheap AI detector says and draw conclusions.

You are insulting everyone here and calling them lazy people who dont read, so you deserved to get more negative karma for that.
Maybe you complained and tricked admin for now but you showed your true face in both forums.
Nobody is against you personally, they are against your actions.