Should reputation follow you here?

[notblox1]

I am all for giving someone a second chance, but first they need to admit they made a mistake, not to pretend, lie and continue cheating.
Than you see member complaining to admin because someone gave him negative karma and calling it abuse 
So one time sent negative karma is abuse for him 

[JoyMarsha]

Yeah, it should. Many of us who are being teleported here might have known one another by forum name through BTT and we also each other relevancy in areas they have helped out and make their presence known to other forum members. For example,  Yahoo62278, many of us must have known you to be among the respected and trusted campaign managers we have in the BTT forum and here also. It will be funny and not welcoming when you act in a way we don't know you for in the BTT forum and here. And to you, you would like to protect your image not dirt because it speaks value about you because many people are looking up to you as being the sincere campaign manager they know.

[GxSTxV]

I think you are right here, giving some users a chance to start over again is more risky for newbies that will deal with these kind of profiles where they have a good membership level and hidden bad history, for instance a legendary account in BTT forum which has been tagged with several red flags and bad trust due to proven scam cases, now if he gets a chance with a good user here, who wasn’t in the other forum, started a trade with this teleported scammer, I believe nothing good will ever happen from such incidents.

I can’t say also some users will try their best to change and start fresh, maybe feeling guilty to such history and mistakes they have done. However, the risks are higher and if a person really wants to change his actions, he can simply start with a new account and build everything from point zero and gain a true deserved trust.

[bitterguy28]

to give my 2 cents:
reputation does follow a user, bounty managers already know the user
but there's no reason to welcome a user with rocks.
In most cases you are right, a user will do whatever he used to do,
but before we see that behaviour, we should offer the benefit of the doubt.

And with active Admin here as You?for sure nothing is left behind in terms of account behavior specially when the account involved have been  mentioned ,and kudos to you admin that welcomed us with all respect and trust thanks to that.

I can’t say also some users will try their best to change and start fresh, maybe feeling guilty to such history and mistakes they have done. However, the risks are higher and if a person really wants to change his actions, he can simply start with a new account and build everything from point zero and gain a true deserved trust.

I also think that this account in name will do have fresh start , and since he knew how easy to detect AI generated users ?i doubt that he will do the same thing here though Hoping that all rules will be followed by him and not to break even one.

[yahoo62278]

to give my 2 cents:
reputation does follow a user, bounty managers already know the user
but there's no reason to welcome a user with rocks.
In most cases you are right, a user will do whatever he used to do,
but before we see that behaviour, we should offer the benefit of the doubt.

And with active Admin here as You?for sure nothing is left behind in terms of account behavior specially when the account involved have been  mentioned ,and kudos to you admin that welcomed us with all respect and trust thanks to that.

I can’t say also some users will try their best to change and start fresh, maybe feeling guilty to such history and mistakes they have done. However, the risks are higher and if a person really wants to change his actions, he can simply start with a new account and build everything from point zero and gain a true deserved trust.

I also think that this account in name will do have fresh start , and since he knew how easy to detect AI generated users ?i doubt that he will do the same thing here though Hoping that all rules will be followed by him and not to break even one.

Let me reiterate that this is not about AI or the borov dude. The thread about him just got me thinking and the guys who scammed on the other forum and think they can come here and start fresh are the ones I worry about. I would hate to see someone with a decent reputation scam 1btc over there, then come here as if nothing happened and eventually do the same thing. Likely most members would be aware of the guy, but some unsuspecting person might fall for a scam.

I guess at any point in time and mamber could decide fuck it and scam, but as long as we as a community stay vigilant, we should be ok mostly.

[bitterguy28]

to give my 2 cents:
reputation does follow a user, bounty managers already know the user
but there's no reason to welcome a user with rocks.
In most cases you are right, a user will do whatever he used to do,
but before we see that behaviour, we should offer the benefit of the doubt.

And with active Admin here as You?for sure nothing is left behind in terms of account behavior specially when the account involved have been  mentioned ,and kudos to you admin that welcomed us with all respect and trust thanks to that.

I can’t say also some users will try their best to change and start fresh, maybe feeling guilty to such history and mistakes they have done. However, the risks are higher and if a person really wants to change his actions, he can simply start with a new account and build everything from point zero and gain a true deserved trust.

I also think that this account in name will do have fresh start , and since he knew how easy to detect AI generated users ?i doubt that he will do the same thing here though Hoping that all rules will be followed by him and not to break even one.

Let me reiterate that this is not about AI or the borov dude. The thread about him just got me thinking and the guys who scammed on the other forum and think they can come here and start fresh are the ones I worry about. I would hate to see someone with a decent reputation scam 1btc over there, then come here as if nothing happened and eventually do the same thing. Likely most members would be aware of the guy, but some unsuspecting person might fall for a scam.

I guess at any point in time and mamber could decide fuck it and scam, but as long as we as a community stay vigilant, we should be ok mostly.

Lol I forgot to clarify that the calling comes from another thread about Him being using AI posts  and not this post of yours , and also I quoted the admin since I have experienced His working ethics and how he replied easily when I have issues so that's why it runs like that.

and you are correct as now we can see a a Great Manager like you actively engaging in such issues helping the forum to become more vigilant and yeah fighting those BS behavior of other accounts.

[God Of Thunder]

Let me reiterate that this is not about AI or the borov dude. The thread about him just got me thinking and the guys who scammed on the other forum and think they can come here and start fresh are the ones I worry about. I would hate to see someone with a decent reputation scam 1btc over there, then come here as if nothing happened and eventually do the same thing. Likely most members would be aware of the guy, but some unsuspecting person might fall for a scam.

I guess at any point in time and mamber could decide fuck it and scam, but as long as we as a community stay vigilant, we should be ok mostly.

When it comes to proven scammers, they should have their negative tags here as well. But I said it should vary from case to case because you know that people leave negative tags for stupid things. Sometimes, those users deserve negative tags on that forum, but if they are not scammers and want to have a fresh start, I guess you can give them the benefit of the doubt and the 2nd chance to improve themself. People do not remain the same forever. They can change if they have a positive mindset. But we never know what is going to happen in the future. If someone is not a proven scammer, you can give them a benefit of doubt.

[NotATether]

Being as users teleport their accounts, we know that they are the same person from the other forum. Why shouldn't their reputation follow them? If they wanted a fresh start, why wouldn't they just make a new account, new username, and leave that name in the past?

Well I agree with this. These are forums where you can trade stuff, so you should be treated as the same person as any other forum you are on, for transactional purposes.

On regular forums like Slashdot or something, it is not much of a big deal.

[God Of Thunder]

Well I agree with this. These are forums where you can trade stuff, so you should be treated as the same person as any other forum you are on, for transactional purposes.

On regular forums like Slashdot or something, it is not much of a big deal.

How many people use the forum to trade? How much is the percentage? I am sure it's less than 5%. Most users (Including me) use the forum because they want to make money from the campaigns and learn about new projects and other things every day. If someone is a proven scammer who cheated on others, damaging someone, they deserve to get negative tags.

Shouldn't you see every case one by one? Shouldn't it depend on the case? If someone gets a negative tag for something stupid that they can stop doing if they want, then it would be better to give them a chance. If they repeat the same thing = Negative tag.

[Stompix]

I don't think anyone is such an idiot as to have an account with scam tags on BTT and want to teleport that account here, but I'm also telling you that I've seen stranger things when it comes to users. In case any user with tags tags was seen here trying to bring their account, that account would be immediately blocked with no possibility of using it again.

So we didn't have yet someone claiming his tags were an abuse on BTT and that he wants a fresh start and he's now good and he actually paid back the money, so on and on? Weird I would have expected a few to at least try, if they still take 5-10 minutes from their asking for loans nobody will give them what would be so extraordinary to try this new approach.

Anyhow, going through the replies, here, I think we should also think of another aspect, I feel like too many are focused on the misbehaving happening on BTT and then the users wants a fresh start here, now, how we would deal with this situation:

User A has a clean record on BTT, moves here, still has a clean record, and after a few months pass by he pulls a scam on BTT!
Will he also get tagged here, for a thing he has done outside the forum?
Would the usual excuse it's not my account anymore work?
If he has sold the account on which he gained ranks here by teleporting, would that mean he loses this one too?

I'm quite curious how others see this!
And of course  I apologize beforehand knowing damn too well how much headaches just analyzing those scenarios can cause to someone!

[Lucius]

Reputation follows us from BTT to this forum, regardless of whether someone wants it or not, and I don't think anyone can escape from it. The only question is whether people will turn their heads and pretend they don't know anything, or whether they will be on the lookout and maybe even warn others.

When it comes to ordinary spam, plagiarism or the use of AI, I believe that everyone deserves a second chance and should not be condemned in advance, but a bad reputation that has its roots in financial fraud, the creation of alt farms and their abuse through bounty/signature campaigns, death threats or something similarly simply cannot be ignored.

People who do such things are very likely to try to do them again, and there is an old saying that says "prevention is better than cure".

[Freemind]

I agree with @yahoo62278 that if a user wants to start from 0, the most logical thing to do is to register a new account, but that would make it impossible to participate in signature campaigns. I've always thought that we all deserve another chance, that what we've done in the past doesn't mark us for life, as we're supposed to learn from our mistakes. The key is in what @Jokers said, different forums, different rules. The user or users who come from BTT with a bad reputation to this forum know very well that they will have a lot of eyes watching, and they will also know that moderation here is active.

[Jokers]

User A has a clean record on BTT, moves here, still has a clean record, and after a few months pass by he pulls a scam on BTT!
Will he also get tagged here, for a thing he has done outside the forum?
Would the usual excuse it's not my account anymore work?
If he has sold the account on which he gained ranks here by teleporting, would that mean he loses this one too?

Scam is a very important issue and doesn't matter where was it done. If there are enough proofs and evidence is clear, we will look at the case and make a needed decision. We are not going to wait until a known scammer will scam someone here to start acting. If you will find out about any scammer who is trying to do something bad here, please share it with us.

[dkbit98]

If members already teleported from bitcointalk than I think reputation should follow them here since they have a history connected with another forum.
For someone who wants to start clean from zero they should create new account and really start fresh as a newbie account.
This sounds fair to me.

[Cantsay]

If he has sold the account on which he gained ranks here by teleporting, would that mean he loses this one too?

I agree with @jokers opinion on the scam case in Bitcointalk. While for the account sales I believe the same logic should also apply to it.

If a high ranked account that teleported here was reported in Bitcointalk to have been sold - then the admin (or perhaps the forum) should also be notified of such act here because there’s a high chance that the new operator of said account could have plans to do some unethical thing - warning the community ahead and tagging them could be said to be appropriate in this scenario.