Should reputation follow you here?

[Learn Bitcoin]

Case by case. No need trying to find solutions for all hypothetical cases most of which will never appear. As for now we saw some cases of AI users and plagiarists who came here. We don't suppose them dangerous and let them to use a chance of a fresh start if they are ready to start behave good. If you see any scammer, share your finding and we will look at it. If it will look dangerous for our users, we will take the corresponding actions.

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This is what I think as well. But some users have been given a second chance on the other forum, and I guess you are also aware of that. But they repeated the same thing, especially the user we were talking about before, who triggered Yahoo to create this thread. Since they are not scamming anyone, the forum may give them another chance.

But would you give them a negative badge if they continue doing the same thing here? As for scamming, I guess there are different badges. The scam badge will be more appropriate for users who are proven scammers.

[Jokers]

But would you give them a negative badge if they continue doing the same thing here? As for scamming, I guess there are different badges. The scam badge will be more appropriate for users who are proven scammers.

TBH I don't remember if any of teleported got negative badges for plagiarism (it includes AI usage) recently, I just don't divide users by this badge, but there are several ones who got this badge for the last several weeks. Other negative badges are being given also. So yes, if they will continue misbehaving, they'll definitely get a negative badge of some sort or even several negative badges.

As for scammers and SEO spammers, we often ban them from posting, some can get some special sort of badge like , some can get both ban from posting and the scammer badge.

[dkbit98]

Case by case. No need trying to find solutions for all hypothetical cases most of which will never appear. As for now we saw some cases of AI users and plagiarists who came here. We don't suppose them dangerous and let them to use a chance of a fresh start if they are ready to start behave good. If you see any scammer, share your finding and we will look at it. If it will look dangerous for our users, we will take the corresponding actions.

It's not hypothetical question at all.
SCAM should be clearly defined in forum if you want members to report such cases in future.
I consider someone who cheats to be a scammer, I have seen cases of members using multiple accounts to participate in same campaign, so they tricked campaign managers and everyone else.
This is the same like they stole money from other people, but there are many levels of scam.

[Learn Bitcoin]

It's not hypothetical question at all.
SCAM should be clearly defined in forum if you want members to report such cases in future.
I consider someone who cheats to be a scammer, I have seen cases of members using multiple accounts to participate in same campaign, so they tricked campaign managers and everyone else.
This is the same like they stole money from other people, but there are many levels of scam.

Usually, the bounty hunter does these things. I know that many people have multiple accounts, which is allowed on Bitcointalk. They are not violating any rules if they do not join the same campaign. There are some exceptions, like a member switching the signature of a campaign and getting payment from both campaigns; they are genuine cheaters and can be considered scammers. Bounty hunters who join the same campaign with multiple alternative accounts are cheaters, but I am not sure if we should call them scammers. The forum has several negative tags and badges. The moderators may probably apply other tags and badges if they want.

[Freemind]

What does scam tags mean exactly?
Negative feedback can be given to members for different things, not only for scam, and that is not really moderated in bitcointalk forum.
Cheating should be considered in a similar way like scamming, especially if someone is repeating the same thing and continues to lie others.

Scam tags mean that a user receives negative feedback for scamming other users or attempting to do so. It has nothing to do with bad behavior, use of AI or spam. I know that many things are not moderated in BTT, but I'm not going to get into that conversation because we could be talking about it for months. I'm not saying that moderation here is better or worse, what I'm saying is that it's different here, and also that many users help the forum work better. There are users who have been reporting posts and "projects" on BTT for many years, and the majority of those reports (more than 85%) have been useless and have not received any attention.

[dkbit98]

Scam tags mean that a user receives negative feedback for scamming other users or attempting to do so.

Yeah but scamming how exactly?
There is no active trading in this forum as far as I know, so only way for someone to be scammed is if they don't get paid for something, maybe campaign or private deal. 
And for someone to be declared a scammer there needs to be some evidence presented for everyone to see.

[Igebotz]

Case by case. No need trying to find solutions for all hypothetical cases most of which will never appear. As for now we saw some cases of AI users and plagiarists who came here. We don't suppose them dangerous and let them to use a chance of a fresh start if they are ready to start behave good. If you see any scammer, share your finding and we will look at it. If it will look dangerous for our users, we will take the corresponding actions.

It's not hypothetical question at all.
SCAM should be clearly defined in forum if you want members to report such cases in future.
I consider someone who cheats to be a scammer, I have seen cases of members using multiple accounts to participate in same campaign, so they tricked campaign managers and everyone else.
This is the same like they stole money from other people, but there are many levels of scam.

If the bounty or signature is not against multiple accounts. I do not consider it a scam; they worked hard to earn what they received; they were not paid for doing nothing. Unless stated otherwise.

Scammers fooled people into giving them money without doing anything, but cheaters tricked everyone in order to get paid while working same job under different names. They are not the same and should be punished differently.

[Freemind]

Yeah but scamming how exactly?
There is no active trading in this forum as far as I know, so only way for someone to be scammed is if they don't get paid for something, maybe campaign or private deal. 
And for someone to be declared a scammer there needs to be some evidence presented for everyone to see.

The examples you have given are valid. In all those cases (with clear and conclusive evidence) of users who have scammed others, and want to bring their accounts to this forum, those tags will also be present here.

Not only that, but those accounts will be moderated or disabled in case the scammer wants to do the same thing here again. We can't prevent certain accounts from teleport, but together we can control which accounts are normal and which belong to scammers.

If one of those accounts enters the forum, it is only necessary to notify a moderator so that everything starts working.

[dkbit98]

If the bounty or signature is not against multiple accounts. I do not consider it a scam; they worked hard to earn what they received; they were not paid for doing nothing. Unless stated otherwise.

All signature campaigns are not accepting multiple accounts, and it would be vey stupid from them if they did.
Even if something like this is not written exactly in details with campaign rules, it's common sense that one person can't have advantage and take places from someone else.

If one of those accounts enters the forum, it is only necessary to notify a moderator so that everything starts working.

Ok, that sounds good.

[Rruchi man]

Being as users teleport their accounts, we know that they are the same person from the other forum. Why shouldn't their reputation follow them? If they wanted a fresh start, why wouldn't they just make a new account, new username, and leave that name in the past?

Unless your offence in bitcointalk was something not very serious, something you could learn from, I will still be careful with you. If you were banned from bitcointalk for issues like scamming etc, that is something that I do not think people easily learn from and as such will advise other forum members here to be careful of you based on your reputation from Bitcointalk. If it were other issues like plagiarism and use of AI, it is possible that a defaulter from Bitcointalk may have learnt their lesson, but they still need to be put under observation because some people never learn.

[yahoo62278]

Being as users teleport their accounts, we know that they are the same person from the other forum. Why shouldn't their reputation follow them? If they wanted a fresh start, why wouldn't they just make a new account, new username, and leave that name in the past?

Unless your offence in bitcointalk was something not very serious, something you could learn from, I will still be careful with you. If you were banned from bitcointalk for issues like scamming etc, that is something that I do not think people easily learn from and as such will advise other forum members here to be careful of you based on your reputation from Bitcointalk. If it were other issues like plagiarism and use of AI, it is possible that a defaulter from Bitcointalk may have learnt their lesson, but they still need to be put under observation because some people never learn.

I don't think that cheaters will change just because they got caught elsewhere, but until they commit the offence here I wouldn't give them too hard a time. I wouldn't go outta my way to hire them for much, but I don't have an issue with them being here.

[Learn Bitcoin]

If you were banned from bitcointalk for issues like scamming etc, that is something that I do not think people easily learn from and as such will advise other forum members here to be careful of you based on your reputation from Bitcointalk.

As you may know, Bitcointalk does not moderate scams and has never banned anyone from scamming others. They might only get a couple of negative feedback from the DT members. If someone got negative tag for scamming others, I recommend everyone from stay away from those people no matter how much they might changed.

If it were other issues like plagiarism and use of AI, it is possible that a defaulter from Bitcointalk may have learnt their lesson, but they still need to be put under observation because some people never learn.

If someone was negatively tagged for cheating like using AI or plagiarism, you may give them the benefit of the doubt. But, if someone got tagged for cheating like participate in the same campaign with multiple alt accounts or abuse a campaign, you should stay away from them as well until they prove that they have changed their behaviour.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

As you may know, Bitcointalk does not moderate scams and has never banned anyone from scamming others. They might only get a couple of negative feedback from the DT members.

No way they are going to get just a couple of negative tags for scamming others. People who get only a couple of negative tags are usually for cases that are unclear, or for issues that are not directly related to scamming people, such as having alts that have cheated on campaigns and have exchanged merits and so on. But the clear cases of scam, and if I remember correctly the most recent one was yogg, usually have more than 10 negative tags on their profile.

[notblox1]

I don't think that cheaters will change just because they got caught elsewhere, but until they commit the offence here I wouldn't give them too hard a time. I wouldn't go outta my way to hire them for much, but I don't have an issue with them being here.

No they wont but it will make cheating much harder for them in future.
They can be here and people can change the way how they are doing things, but I first need to see if they really changed before hiring them in any campaigns.

[Learn Bitcoin]

No way they are going to get just a couple of negative tags for scamming others. People who get only a couple of negative tags are usually for cases that are unclear, or for issues that are not directly related to scamming people, such as having alts that have cheated on campaigns and have exchanged merits and so on. But the clear cases of scam, and if I remember correctly the most recent one was yogg, usually have more than 10 negative tags on their profile.

It's still only a couple of negative tags and some DT exclusions. If the administration does not moderate the scam, what else can the forum members do against the scammers? When it comes to altcoinstalks forum, they moderate scams here and if you can prove that someone is a scammer, they will get the special scammer badge and they may get banned as well.

10 or a hundred negative tags are not enough to stop these scammers. They should be banned if they are proven scammers. We know that it's easier to create another account and come back again. But they will have to spend enough time to rank up again.