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Re: should gambling be completely banned?
« Reply #90 on: May 26, 2024, 08:09:12 PM »
I believe in some countries especially Muslim countries gambling is not legal. It is banned in some countries. Under age children should not be allowed to gamble, as it will adversely affect their academic activities. It will also affects extracurricular activities.
Well yeah but we all know that even it is not accessible in other countries with strict regualtion or even banned, some gamblers are still able to play by using vpn's I know some people who play gambling in places which gambling is prohibited but that is on their own risk. It will literally affect minors as they were being influenced by false promotions that sometimes may trick their young and weak minds.
In this day and age, anything can be done, as you said, even though in certain countries gambling sites cannot be accessed, they have ways to access those gambling sites, so this will be very difficult to stop.

The problem is that all the control is in their hands, yes they have their phones at their disposal. And if it's a personal item then it's their privacy, so this isn't something that's easy to get rid of.

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Re: should gambling be completely banned?
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Re: should gambling be completely banned?
« Reply #91 on: May 27, 2024, 12:05:50 AM »
I believe in some countries especially Muslim countries gambling is not legal. It is banned in some countries. Under age children should not be allowed to gamble, as it will adversely affect their academic activities. It will also affects extracurricular activities.
Well yeah but we all know that even it is not accessible in other countries with strict regualtion or even banned, some gamblers are still able to play by using vpn's I know some people who play gambling in places which gambling is prohibited but that is on their own risk. It will literally affect minors as they were being influenced by false promotions that sometimes may trick their young and weak minds.
In this day and age, anything can be done, as you said, even though in certain countries gambling sites cannot be accessed, they have ways to access those gambling sites, so this will be very difficult to stop.

The problem is that all the control is in their hands, yes they have their phones at their disposal. And if it's a personal item then it's their privacy, so this isn't something that's easy to get rid of.

Yes, it is very true, I always go to see any type of thing that has to do with casinos, I do not see any type of sense in prohibiting it , in the Countries that do it because they will see for what purposes they are ? Some are because of religion, which is Known , but in person it is like I said, if someone has phone numbers from other countries, admitting them, I think there is no problem, which I don't understand and why not even with VPN, some sites don't admit it. , if what matters is that people go into the Casino and play, because the restrictions of some Countries tend to be so determining , if in the end everything is included in a political problem.
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Re: should gambling be completely banned?
« Reply #91 on: May 27, 2024, 12:05:50 AM »

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Re: should gambling be completely banned?
« Reply #92 on: May 29, 2024, 08:26:29 PM »
In this day and age, anything can be done, as you said, even though in certain countries gambling sites cannot be accessed, they have ways to access those gambling sites, so this will be very difficult to stop.

The problem is that all the control is in their hands, yes they have their phones at their disposal. And if it's a personal item then it's their privacy, so this isn't something that's easy to get rid of.

Yes, it is very true, I always go to see any type of thing that has to do with casinos, I do not see any type of sense in prohibiting it , in the Countries that do it because they will see for what purposes they are ? Some are because of religion, which is Known , but in person it is like I said, if someone has phone numbers from other countries, admitting them, I think there is no problem, which I don't understand and why not even with VPN, some sites don't admit it. , if what matters is that people go into the Casino and play, because the restrictions of some Countries tend to be so determining , if in the end everything is included in a political problem.
They're just preventing something bigger, it seems, because if you want to eliminate it then it's something that's not easy to do.

Some facts are even surprising, where the government prohibits gambling in a country, but there are individuals who have power who can directly collaborate with gambling owners. I think things like this are also complicated, because on the one hand the government prohibits it, but on the other hand there are individuals who play and seek personal gain.

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Re: should gambling be completely banned?
« Reply #93 on: May 29, 2024, 09:39:29 PM »
They're just preventing something bigger, it seems, because if you want to eliminate it then it's something that's not easy to do.

Some facts are even surprising, where the government prohibits gambling in a country, but there are individuals who have power who can directly collaborate with gambling owners. I think things like this are also complicated, because on the one hand the government prohibits it, but on the other hand there are individuals who play and seek personal gain.
We've heard of cases of underground casinos where people go to gamble secretly in countries and areas where there's a ban or prohibition on gambling, and even the government are aware of these secret underground casinos but decide to keep mute because they benefit from them in one way or the other.
This only proves the fact that gambling can't be completely banned, because even if the government places laws that formally bans gambling activities, there'll always be people who will come up with alternative means for them to still gamble, with or without the notice of the government.

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Re: should gambling be completely banned?
« Reply #94 on: May 29, 2024, 10:23:45 PM »
They're just preventing something bigger, it seems, because if you want to eliminate it then it's something that's not easy to do.

Some facts are even surprising, where the government prohibits gambling in a country, but there are individuals who have power who can directly collaborate with gambling owners. I think things like this are also complicated, because on the one hand the government prohibits it, but on the other hand there are individuals who play and seek personal gain.
We've heard of cases of underground casinos where people go to gamble secretly in countries and areas where there's a ban or prohibition on gambling, and even the government are aware of these secret underground casinos but decide to keep mute because they benefit from them in one way or the other.
This only proves the fact that gambling can't be completely banned, because even if the government places laws that formally bans gambling activities, there'll always be people who will come up with alternative means for them to still gamble, with or without the notice of the government.

seen some of these local betshop owners visited by the sheriff every now and then in our neighborhood, rumors spread all over in town about it that why the betshop is never been raided by the cops.

so yea the corruption is rampant and this underground casinos thrive when the officers in town are just bolder and casino operators can get away.



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Re: should gambling be completely banned?
« Reply #95 on: May 30, 2024, 02:31:55 PM »
They're just preventing something bigger, it seems, because if you want to eliminate it then it's something that's not easy to do.

Some facts are even surprising, where the government prohibits gambling in a country, but there are individuals who have power who can directly collaborate with gambling owners. I think things like this are also complicated, because on the one hand the government prohibits it, but on the other hand there are individuals who play and seek personal gain.
We've heard of cases of underground casinos where people go to gamble secretly in countries and areas where there's a ban or prohibition on gambling, and even the government are aware of these secret underground casinos but decide to keep mute because they benefit from them in one way or the other.
This only proves the fact that gambling can't be completely banned, because even if the government places laws that formally bans gambling activities, there'll always be people who will come up with alternative means for them to still gamble, with or without the notice of the government.
Well, we cannot deny that there are practices like this out there, casinos pay a lot of money to the authorities so that they continue to operate even though there is a ban from that country. and that's something I think will be everywhere, in countries where gambling is prohibited.

I do not mean to offend certain parties, because this is in the context of something that is difficult to achieve, namely that gambling can be banned or completely eliminated from certain countries.

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Re: should gambling be completely banned?
« Reply #96 on: May 30, 2024, 03:48:31 PM »
They're just preventing something bigger, it seems, because if you want to eliminate it then it's something that's not easy to do.

Some facts are even surprising, where the government prohibits gambling in a country, but there are individuals who have power who can directly collaborate with gambling owners. I think things like this are also complicated, because on the one hand the government prohibits it, but on the other hand there are individuals who play and seek personal gain.
We've heard of cases of underground casinos where people go to gamble secretly in countries and areas where there's a ban or prohibition on gambling, and even the government are aware of these secret underground casinos but decide to keep mute because they benefit from them in one way or the other.
This only proves the fact that gambling can't be completely banned, because even if the government places laws that formally bans gambling activities, there'll always be people who will come up with alternative means for them to still gamble, with or without the notice of the government.
Well, we cannot deny that there are practices like this out there, casinos pay a lot of money to the authorities so that they continue to operate even though there is a ban from that country. and that's something I think will be everywhere, in countries where gambling is prohibited.

I do not mean to offend certain parties, because this is in the context of something that is difficult to achieve, namely that gambling can be banned or completely eliminated from certain countries.
In speaking about involving huge money then  this is something that would really be talking about those exemptions on which despite of the ban or prohibition but still they were that able to operate just because they had padi up on whats needed which its already that typical into the world on where we are living. This is why you cant really be able to stop
completely if there's someone on the government would really be able to cover up then they would really be continuing no matter what. Ban and prohibitions is really that unlikely
considering taxes generated by these businesses are really that something significant and hardly be able to deny and ignore about its help specially on taxation and other correlated things.

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Re: should gambling be completely banned?
« Reply #97 on: May 31, 2024, 06:59:28 AM »
Ban and prohibitions is really that unlikely
considering taxes generated by these businesses are really that something significant and hardly be able to deny and ignore about its help specially on taxation and other correlated things.

Exactly, a ban on gambling institutions is not viable to some countries that relies on the tax generated from it to finance government projects. Regulations may be applied as to control this institution but not totally ban.

Our country is one of those many countries that rely on gambling as a source of revenue.

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Re: should gambling be completely banned?
« Reply #98 on: May 31, 2024, 08:24:52 AM »
Ban and prohibitions is really that unlikely
considering taxes generated by these businesses are really that something significant and hardly be able to deny and ignore about its help specially on taxation and other correlated things.

Exactly, a ban on gambling institutions is not viable to some countries that relies on the tax generated from it to finance government projects. Regulations may be applied as to control this institution but not totally ban.

Our country is one of those many countries that rely on gambling as a source of revenue.
The government never wants to shut down any such institution that will benefit or gain revenue unless it is for some major social cause. Governments will receive revenue from gambling establishments in countries where governments have legalized gambling. If they want to stop gambling, they will lose that revenue. Currently, gambling will never be banned in countries where it is once permitted. Because governments know very well that if they stop gambling, betting won't stop. Nowadays, there are a lot of gambling sites where anyone can get access using a VPN.

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Re: should gambling be completely banned?
« Reply #99 on: May 31, 2024, 01:35:39 PM »
I suggest to re-read first post to find how ridiculous is the reason to ban gambling. As well as person created some imaginary situation to convince that he is right. I find it wrong to ban whole industry, just because I dont like something, or a group of people doing something wrong. Why should I bother if some, I will stress on only some, students gamble instead of studying. I might turn, that OP offers to ban whole multi billion industry because a group of 100-1000 students were slacking from studying. Like after banning gambling, they would immediately return to studying.
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Re: should gambling be completely banned?
« Reply #100 on: May 31, 2024, 06:36:05 PM »
Well, we cannot deny that there are practices like this out there, casinos pay a lot of money to the authorities so that they continue to operate even though there is a ban from that country. and that's something I think will be everywhere, in countries where gambling is prohibited.

I do not mean to offend certain parties, because this is in the context of something that is difficult to achieve, namely that gambling can be banned or completely eliminated from certain countries.
In speaking about involving huge money then  this is something that would really be talking about those exemptions on which despite of the ban or prohibition but still they were that able to operate just because they had padi up on whats needed which its already that typical into the world on where we are living. This is why you cant really be able to stop
completely if there's someone on the government would really be able to cover up then they would really be continuing no matter what. Ban and prohibitions is really that unlikely
considering taxes generated by these businesses are really that something significant and hardly be able to deny and ignore about its help specially on taxation and other correlated things.
The gambling industry involves a lot of money, and the circulation of money there is very fast and large, so anyone will definitely be tempted if they are offered such a large amount of money.

That's what makes gambling always exist because they can survive with the money they have. If the parties involved are given enough money, it will be easy for them to carry out their gambling even if there is a ban.

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Re: should gambling be completely banned?
« Reply #101 on: June 01, 2024, 07:06:58 AM »
Well, we cannot deny that there are practices like this out there, casinos pay a lot of money to the authorities so that they continue to operate even though there is a ban from that country. and that's something I think will be everywhere, in countries where gambling is prohibited.

I do not mean to offend certain parties, because this is in the context of something that is difficult to achieve, namely that gambling can be banned or completely eliminated from certain countries.
In speaking about involving huge money then  this is something that would really be talking about those exemptions on which despite of the ban or prohibition but still they were that able to operate just because they had padi up on whats needed which its already that typical into the world on where we are living. This is why you cant really be able to stop
completely if there's someone on the government would really be able to cover up then they would really be continuing no matter what. Ban and prohibitions is really that unlikely
considering taxes generated by these businesses are really that something significant and hardly be able to deny and ignore about its help specially on taxation and other correlated things.
The gambling industry involves a lot of money, and the circulation of money there is very fast and large, so anyone will definitely be tempted if they are offered such a large amount of money.

That's what makes gambling always exist because they can survive with the money they have. If the parties involved are given enough money, it will be easy for them to carry out their gambling even if there is a ban.
Gambling has now become an industry so no country's government wants their industry to be destroyed. At the moment, many people's employment is tied to gambling, if the government of any country acts against it, then the government will not be able to take responsibility for the employment of this huge population. If gambling is banned then the number of unemployed in their country will increase on the one hand and the revenue of their country will decrease on the other hand. Neither side will have the capacity to deal with the situation on the part of the government. Considering the current situation I can definitely say that gambling industry is not bannedt they can regulate this industry by making regulations. Moreover, the development of this industry is increasing.

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Re: should gambling be completely banned?
« Reply #102 on: June 01, 2024, 07:11:49 AM »
Ban and prohibitions is really that unlikely
considering taxes generated by these businesses are really that something significant and hardly be able to deny and ignore about its help specially on taxation and other correlated things.

Exactly, a ban on gambling institutions is not viable to some countries that relies on the tax generated from it to finance government projects. Regulations may be applied as to control this institution but not totally ban.

Our country is one of those many countries that rely on gambling as a source of revenue.
The government never wants to shut down any such institution that will benefit or gain revenue unless it is for some major social cause. Governments will receive revenue from gambling establishments in countries where governments have legalized gambling. If they want to stop gambling, they will lose that revenue. Currently, gambling will never be banned in countries where it is once permitted. Because governments know very well that if they stop gambling, betting won't stop. Nowadays, there are a lot of gambling sites where anyone can get access using a VPN.

I agree with you. Whatever benefits the government is protected by the government. Most times the government doesn't bother about the vices caused by gambling but rather the gains from the gambling industries. Also, most bookies are classified as MNCs and so they are known to influence certain government decisions by paying huge amount of money in form of royalties in order to sustain their presence in that country.

The above reveals to us that as long as the gambling industry is concern the government is a beneficiary and banning gambling can be likened to removing sugar from government's mouth and I think no government especially in the developing countries would accede to it. Also, the people don't have one voice as to whether they need the gambling industry or not and so when matters of such appears it generates a lot of controversy which makes it difficult to get a consensus.
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Re: should gambling be completely banned?
« Reply #103 on: June 01, 2024, 01:50:14 PM »
The gambling industry involves a lot of money, and the circulation of money there is very fast and large, so anyone will definitely be tempted if they are offered such a large amount of money.

That's what makes gambling always exist because they can survive with the money they have. If the parties involved are given enough money, it will be easy for them to carry out their gambling even if there is a ban.
Gambling has now become an industry so no country's government wants their industry to be destroyed. At the moment, many people's employment is tied to gambling, if the government of any country acts against it, then the government will not be able to take responsibility for the employment of this huge population. If gambling is banned then the number of unemployed in their country will increase on the one hand and the revenue of their country will decrease on the other hand. Neither side will have the capacity to deal with the situation on the part of the government. Considering the current situation I can definitely say that gambling industry is not bannedt they can regulate this industry by making regulations. Moreover, the development of this industry is increasing.
In fact, whether or not gambling is prohibited in a country will always be a debate, because there are people who strongly reject gambling and there are people who accept it, we also cannot deny the facts that occur in the field.

In my opinion, in this case the government must be the third person who looks for solutions so that everything runs well. Yes, because they have authority that they can use to mediate.

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Re: should gambling be completely banned?
« Reply #104 on: June 01, 2024, 05:44:04 PM »
They're just preventing something bigger, it seems, because if you want to eliminate it then it's something that's not easy to do.

Some facts are even surprising, where the government prohibits gambling in a country, but there are individuals who have power who can directly collaborate with gambling owners. I think things like this are also complicated, because on the one hand the government prohibits it, but on the other hand there are individuals who play and seek personal gain.
We've heard of cases of underground casinos where people go to gamble secretly in countries and areas where there's a ban or prohibition on gambling, and even the government are aware of these secret underground casinos but decide to keep mute because they benefit from them in one way or the other.
This only proves the fact that gambling can't be completely banned, because even if the government places laws that formally bans gambling activities, there'll always be people who will come up with alternative means for them to still gamble, with or without the notice of the government.

seen some of these local betshop owners visited by the sheriff every now and then in our neighborhood, rumors spread all over in town about it that why the betshop is never been raided by the cops.

so yea the corruption is rampant and this underground casinos thrive when the officers in town are just bolder and casino operators can get away.
That only means one thing, legally or illegally, the authorities still benefit from it.
The government now tax gambling companies, which is one reason why they'll never place a permanent ban on gambling activities, even the illegal gambling outlets and casinos still pay the authorities to stay in operation and that's how it's been for decades and will continue to be.

 

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