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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2024, 11:53:54 AM »

The government has the chance to stop the development of AI because Elon Musk has a lot of things to do with it. They know him and Sam Altman whoeven worked for a government side job but the government encourage the development of AI.

If its going to take over the jobs of regular people the one that government will only care to collect tax I guess can center to one company, the one who owns the robots. Somehow these AIs are more reliable than humans so its not surprising.

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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2024, 12:19:58 PM »

The government has the chance to stop the development of AI because Elon Musk has a lot of things to do with it. They know him and Sam Altman whoeven worked for a government side job but the government encourage the development of AI.

If its going to take over the jobs of regular people the one that government will only care to collect tax I guess can center to one company, the one who owns the robots. Somehow these AIs are more reliable than humans so its not surprising.

Can you name a profession, where people were mass fired due o AI ? But dont call many from IT sector, as not every IT guys work is really that complicated. AI made it quicker and more simple. No wonder people got replaced by AI. Like conveyors and robots replaced manual assembly. For example not every company needs an employee in stuff, who will manage and print client receipts, as he can be replaced by script.

To many people wants to sit in the office, press buttons and put minimum effort to earn. Few wants to work and earn with their hands. This must be balanced. AI is to balance this.
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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2024, 12:19:58 PM »

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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2024, 05:56:15 PM »

The government has the chance to stop the development of AI because Elon Musk has a lot of things to do with it. They know him and Sam Altman whoeven worked for a government side job but the government encourage the development of AI.

If its going to take over the jobs of regular people the one that government will only care to collect tax I guess can center to one company, the one who owns the robots. Somehow these AIs are more reliable than humans so its not surprising.

Can you name a profession, where people were mass fired due o AI ? But dont call many from IT sector, as not every IT guys work is really that complicated. AI made it quicker and more simple. No wonder people got replaced by AI. Like conveyors and robots replaced manual assembly. For example not every company needs an employee in stuff, who will manage and print client receipts, as he can be replaced by script.

To many people wants to sit in the office, press buttons and put minimum effort to earn. Few wants to work and earn with their hands. This must be balanced. AI is to balance this.
If we are that smart we still have choices because we can acquire newer skills  so that the risk of us getting fired from our job just because an AI will take over is not that severe not unless we do nothing. Just like AI that needs upgrades we also need it especially if it was work related.

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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2024, 09:08:18 PM »

The government has the chance to stop the development of AI because Elon Musk has a lot of things to do with it. They know him and Sam Altman whoeven worked for a government side job but the government encourage the development of AI.

If its going to take over the jobs of regular people the one that government will only care to collect tax I guess can center to one company, the one who owns the robots. Somehow these AIs are more reliable than humans so its not surprising.

Can you name a profession, where people were mass fired due o AI ? But dont call many from IT sector, as not every IT guys work is really that complicated. AI made it quicker and more simple. No wonder people got replaced by AI. Like conveyors and robots replaced manual assembly. For example not every company needs an employee in stuff, who will manage and print client receipts, as he can be replaced by script.

To many people wants to sit in the office, press buttons and put minimum effort to earn. Few wants to work and earn with their hands. This must be balanced. AI is to balance this.

Literally a couple sentences about "AI" as well. (in quotation marks for a reason) and IT, without the quotation marks :)

1. "AI as it currently exists is not real AI. Modern "AI" is more marketing than AI :)
2. "AI" is a huge, very fast database of KNOWLEDGE, with an AMAZING method of interaction, in the form of a large language model.

For whom is it really dangerous ?  I'm taking IT now, as I've been in IT myself for 30 years :)
For people with low competencies working in positions that do not require high competencies!
For people who don't understand the advantages of AI as a Helper - they end up in a situation where AI replaces them.
And also people who are not ready to make efforts to "pump up" their knowledge and skills.

And this is a natural process. If you look at history, it is very similar to the situation, for example, in London, at the beginning of the 20th century, with Knocker-up - or "alarm clock people".  As long as the population could not afford a simple mechanical alarm clock, this layer of workers was in demand. But with the advent of "AI" in the form of mechanical, affordable, cheap, alarm clocks, the Knocker-up simply disappeared, for lack of demand.... Now we are seeing the same thing, but adjusted for the 21st century.....


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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2024, 11:05:31 PM »
The best thing in other not to run helter-skelter in the future over job is not to remained ever employed by others, instead we should work to be self employed by ourself and be an employer of labourers, we can start from somewhere and from there we grow and move on, depending on others for employment could be disappointing in life as we may not be able to achieve our desired and future financial goal and freedom.

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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2024, 11:32:26 PM »
Can they deploy AI in war?
Because if they can it seen worth rethinking why they would need to draft. Using AI will not kill more men.

If AI is very effective, it should be used for argriculture and let thise robots plants and then people will just sit and relax on their lives after all products is easy to produce thru AI. Let AI do everything and the whole country will create a generation of lazy kids.

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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #36 on: July 04, 2024, 07:04:56 PM »
The best thing in other not to run helter-skelter in the future over job is not to remained ever employed by others, instead we should work to be self employed by ourself and be an employer of labourers, we can start from somewhere and from there we grow and move on, depending on others for employment could be disappointing in life as we may not be able to achieve our desired and future financial goal and freedom.
Being an employer rather than an employee may be the best policy that many try but not for most people. You may lack money or lack of planning. It is possible to implement your plan only through hard work. You have to change your thinking, you have to work harder and above all the humanity of doing something good for the society and the country.
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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #37 on: July 05, 2024, 07:31:59 PM »
The best thing in other not to run helter-skelter in the future over job is not to remained ever employed by others, instead we should work to be self employed by ourself and be an employer of labourers, we can start from somewhere and from there we grow and move on, depending on others for employment could be disappointing in life as we may not be able to achieve our desired and future financial goal and freedom.
Well yeah you hot that point but being self employed I think requires capital that most average people don't have so I think the best thing to do here is to acquire a special skill and then developed it for future proofing. Nowadays skilled workers are in demand depending on which field we are interested in.

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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #38 on: July 06, 2024, 05:33:05 AM »
the answer is simple for me  , try not to be an employee but try to built your own business/company so from this you will never be off against AI/Robots because you are now the boss and will serve your client.
this is the sad reality of development that we are now leaning towards technology and the human skills is slowly dying , because we are now fond of high or speed result than the traditional one.

Being your own boss doesn't eradicate the root cause here, let's assume someone working in a bakery and mastered baking now thinks in the future a robot could take his job and go out and start his bakery but still, the machines are going to make things to more perfection than an actual human with negligible maintenance cost than paying salary so as a business owner we can run the bakery with little to no profits if we decided to compete against the evolution.
Wrong , there is no more perfection in cooking than Human providing , i am a cook for how many years and i will stand by that .

yeah robotics can mass produce multiple times than human can bring but trust me , the taste and the quality will never be the same as how a  human hand brings food to the table .

and also  robotics will only appear if we human allows it to be, but if not then how can robots take over the job?

let them mass produce something that people needs but not the whole world will believe in that manner.

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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #39 on: July 06, 2024, 11:11:29 AM »
Can they deploy AI in war?
Because if they can it seen worth rethinking why they would need to draft. Using AI will not kill more men.

If AI is very effective, it should be used for argriculture and let thise robots plants and then people will just sit and relax on their lives after all products is easy to produce thru AI. Let AI do everything and the whole country will create a generation of lazy kids.

"AI," or more specifically a neural network based algorithmic model, like any tool or technology will be used in the military. Now my country suffers from external terrorist aggression from a neighboring country, so "swarms of drones" controlled by "AI" very effectively destroy the troops of terrorists, freeing our land. At the same time, the cost of such systems is many orders of magnitude lower than the equipment or manpower of the terrorist's country that they destroy. That also levels out the huge difference between the economy of my country and the aggressor's country, which is many times larger, both in size and economy, than my country.

The second side of the issue is to limit the development of technology in aggressor countries, so that they could not use this technology for mass terror against the civilized world. This is perhaps the most subtle and complex issue, because for such IT technologies it is not necessary to build megafactories or very complex production facilities, it is enough to have the possibility of "large-scale assembly" or production of all components for such systems.

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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #40 on: July 06, 2024, 05:34:05 PM »
Can they deploy AI in war?
Because if they can it seen worth rethinking why they would need to draft. Using AI will not kill more men.

If AI is very effective, it should be used for argriculture and let thise robots plants and then people will just sit and relax on their lives after all products is easy to produce thru AI. Let AI do everything and the whole country will create a generation of lazy kids.

"AI," or more specifically a neural network based algorithmic model, like any tool or technology will be used in the military. Now my country suffers from external terrorist aggression from a neighboring country, so "swarms of drones" controlled by "AI" very effectively destroy the troops of terrorists, freeing our land. At the same time, the cost of such systems is many orders of magnitude lower than the equipment or manpower of the terrorist's country that they destroy. That also levels out the huge difference between the economy of my country and the aggressor's country, which is many times larger, both in size and economy, than my country.

The second side of the issue is to limit the development of technology in aggressor countries, so that they could not use this technology for mass terror against the civilized world. This is perhaps the most subtle and complex issue, because for such IT technologies it is not necessary to build megafactories or very complex production facilities, it is enough to have the possibility of "large-scale assembly" or production of all components for such systems.
This is actually terrifying when AI is used in wars but it also helps troops safer since unmanned equipments can be apllied with AI for pinpoint accuracy and less risk of soldiers controlling their equipments like drones and stuff in the battlefield. I actually watched some scenes from the frontlines in your country and it's scary.

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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #41 on: July 07, 2024, 06:25:42 PM »
Can they deploy AI in war?
Because if they can it seen worth rethinking why they would need to draft. Using AI will not kill more men.

If AI is very effective, it should be used for argriculture and let thise robots plants and then people will just sit and relax on their lives after all products is easy to produce thru AI. Let AI do everything and the whole country will create a generation of lazy kids.
There are jobs that AI will never replace human. Jobs that needs critical thinking to have good results on how to go about the situation at hand. AI lacks the brain to think. Tideous jobs should be replaced by AI and not jobs that needs intellectuals. Being self employed is the best and working online too is the best because AI will not be able to take over such jobs. However if AI start taking over some people's job, they will have other skills that they can learn to benefit from which AI cannot meet up with.

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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #42 on: July 08, 2024, 03:56:10 PM »
Can they deploy AI in war?
Because if they can it seen worth rethinking why they would need to draft. Using AI will not kill more men.

If AI is very effective, it should be used for argriculture and let thise robots plants and then people will just sit and relax on their lives after all products is easy to produce thru AI. Let AI do everything and the whole country will create a generation of lazy kids.
There are jobs that AI will never replace human. Jobs that needs critical thinking to have good results on how to go about the situation at hand. AI lacks the brain to think. Tideous jobs should be replaced by AI and not jobs that needs intellectuals. Being self employed is the best and working online too is the best because AI will not be able to take over such jobs. However if AI start taking over some people's job, they will have other skills that they can learn to benefit from which AI cannot meet up with.
Well yeah humans are the one who feeds data for AI to work and AI rely on what is available data online so I think we still have an edge on the jobs that AI cannot do themselves pr something that is more complicated to them and still needs human intervention and that is what we need to improve so we cannot be replaced one day.

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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #43 on: July 11, 2024, 10:51:35 AM »
Can they deploy AI in war?
Because if they can it seen worth rethinking why they would need to draft. Using AI will not kill more men.

If AI is very effective, it should be used for argriculture and let thise robots plants and then people will just sit and relax on their lives after all products is easy to produce thru AI. Let AI do everything and the whole country will create a generation of lazy kids.

"AI," or more specifically a neural network based algorithmic model, like any tool or technology will be used in the military. Now my country suffers from external terrorist aggression from a neighboring country, so "swarms of drones" controlled by "AI" very effectively destroy the troops of terrorists, freeing our land. At the same time, the cost of such systems is many orders of magnitude lower than the equipment or manpower of the terrorist's country that they destroy. That also levels out the huge difference between the economy of my country and the aggressor's country, which is many times larger, both in size and economy, than my country.

The second side of the issue is to limit the development of technology in aggressor countries, so that they could not use this technology for mass terror against the civilized world. This is perhaps the most subtle and complex issue, because for such IT technologies it is not necessary to build megafactories or very complex production facilities, it is enough to have the possibility of "large-scale assembly" or production of all components for such systems.
This is actually terrifying when AI is used in wars but it also helps troops safer since unmanned equipments can be apllied with AI for pinpoint accuracy and less risk of soldiers controlling their equipments like drones and stuff in the battlefield. I actually watched some scenes from the frontlines in your country and it's scary.

The really scary thing is that in the 21st century the world has allowed a new brown plague of Nazism and terrorism to grow, and much of the world continues to have economic ties with the terrorist country. Moreover, some countries with impunity supply weapons to destroy the civilian population of the country suffering from the aggression of a huge terrorist country and its satellites and "friends of world terrorism". Let's play the game of humanity when we solve the issues with real problems and not semi-fantastic ones. And the aggressor should only be destroyed, there are no other options to win and liberate their country. Therefore, AI technologies are very helpful and useful for people in liberating their country from aggressors and terrorists. This is a good and necessary technology

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Re: Future of jobs is highly uncertain!
« Reply #44 on: July 21, 2024, 06:24:42 PM »
So as an individual how do you plan to have a secured job considering that every job is at risk?
I think what's best is to invest in getting new knowledge on what's the trend and possible trend in the future. Have a vision or a choice of something you can learn that will still be needed even if most of the jobs are being replaced with AI. An expertise where a human intervention is always needed, that a bot can't do as it needs on-the-spot decision making.

I agree with the development of today's technology we must catch up and update our skills on the trends so that we will not get behind because most of the industry is now using high technologies especially AI but human knowledge and experience are irreplaceable. Find something you are good at and try to use it as a strength and how you will use it today.

 

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