we yet to see a casino starts advertising on altcoinstalk!

[NotATether]

Sometimes it feels like a chicken and egg problem, where a signature campaign is the most effective incentive to make boards feel alive but no one is going to advertise on a dead board unless they can do it with little to no cost. I can only see the board come alive if some high-quality members spend some time to improve the discussion quality on that board, which is a huge thing to ask if there's nothing to gain for them. Maybe the new quality bar can help that to some extent, but who knows?

It's not a chicken and egg problem at all.

Look at Bitcointalk, you have people crying out for new boards all the time, and when that happens then that's a good thing, because it means those other sections of the forum are being utilized. When I came here, I saw a bunch of abandoned boards. It certainly doesn't help that anyone can just pay a few bucks to create a new forum for their coin/exchange.

[bitterguy28]

As the topic title, my question is pretty straight which has been in my mind for a while: why have we yet to see a casino start their promotion, whether it's a signature campaign, free raffles, prediction contests, etc?

I can see some ANNs but not from the popular casinos as we do see on bitcointalk, I am sure they will be ready to promote if they are aware of this forum's existence.

Campaign managers may answer this better than anyone but whoever wants to add their points are welcome!

There is WInz.io that managed by our beloved yahoo recently though like what said above it seems that the team did not see any good traffic so theypaused the campaign and I believe that once this forum increased the traffic and the visitors then for sure we will see those Gambling site coming here and maybe the payments will also increase like what we have in other forum and maybe we will see other managers that concentrating in gambling management like Hhampuz and others.

[Gurujebs]

Campaign managers may answer this better than anyone but whoever wants to add their points are welcome!

I will be convinced more if we have more of advertising companies and not just casino companies. The reason why this forum became lively is because of the presence of signature, some were active but the signature made it more active and so for that reasons, there is likelihood of low traffic from people from outside.

I think that if forum is more active, there will be more and more of indexing of content from the forum to other Google search, like when people discuss about mixers here often, the Altcoinstalk will appear more on Google search than other forum since it's been discussed here more and more people will come here often and the traffic will increased with time.

[Lucius]

As the topic title, my question is pretty straight which has been in my mind for a while: why have we yet to see a casino start their promotion, whether it's a signature campaign, free raffles, prediction contests, etc?
I can see some ANNs but not from the popular casinos as we do see on bitcointalk, I am sure they will be ready to promote if they are aware of this forum's existence.
Campaign managers may answer this better than anyone but whoever wants to add their points are welcome!

I'm sure that all or most of the casinos that are promoted on BTT know about this forum, because managers must have told them about it and offered their services - but they all obviously currently think that promoting on this forum is not profitable for them.

I sincerely doubt that the problem is money, because casinos have quite a decent profit to be able to finance such things, but considering that the pay rates on this forum are quite low, I wonder how many quality users they would be able to attract. If the casinos decided on the tactics of higher pay rates (similar to BTT), I believe that it would attract quality members and that they would probably get quality campaigns.

[examplens]

I noticed some famous faces, who are the most active in the gambling board on Btt. Why don't any of them start gambling topics, or contests similar to those on Btt?
If you want to attract casinos to be present here and possibly contribute to the promotion, a certain user base must be created.

Although honestly, is it necessary to turn another crypto forum into a gambling forum?

[sheenshane]

IMO, it's quite early to tell and I tend to agree with what yahoo said.
Lack of traffic might be the reason, look at the Gambling & Crypto casino board (9 pages) and the child board gambling discussion (7 pages).  As we can see, not that much if we compare it to Btt.

It might be soon when some of the managers here start introducing this forum to those gambling companies and users here also encourage to grow discussion on gambling boards.

[LogitechMouse]

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Campaign managers may answer this better than anyone but whoever wants to add their points are welcome!

I think the reason is that, they are getting enough results on Bitcointalk alone already that they don't bother launching a signature campaign here as well.

It would be good if those campaign managers that manages casino signature campaigns in Bitcointalk could talk to the company and ask if they want to promote it here as well. Maybe the amount of users is one reason (although we've seen a significant increase in active users). Traffic is another reason why we aren't seeing right now.

Maybe advertising here would mean losses for the company hence, they aren't trying to be promoted here. Overall, I don't think that they will really come here.

[Lucius]

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Although honestly, is it necessary to turn another crypto forum into a gambling forum?

BTT has a very large gambling community, but I would not say that it is a gambling forum, regardless of the fact that that part of the forum is quite active. The fact is that at least a few gambling campaigns on this forum would mean a lot in the sense that it would increase the activity which, realistically speaking, had already started to decline when the number of sig campaigns was reduced.

[Findingnemo]

~snip~
Although honestly, is it necessary to turn another crypto forum into a gambling forum?

BTT has a very large gambling community, but I would not say that it is a gambling forum, regardless of the fact that that part of the forum is quite active. The fact is that at least a few gambling campaigns on this forum would mean a lot in the sense that it would increase the activity which, realistically speaking, had already started to decline when the number of sig campaigns was reduced.

Apart from keeping the board/forum active casino played a huge role in bringing crypto to many users which is an undeniable fact. Because it is one of the sector where people actually use crypto as payment which is what supposed to be the whole concept of cryptocurrency, right?

[Lucius]

Apart from keeping the board/forum active casino played a huge role in bringing crypto to many users which is an undeniable fact. Because it is one of the sector where people actually use crypto as payment which is what supposed to be the whole concept of cryptocurrency, right?

You're right there, if we look at everything else, it's still mostly about investments - online gambling is perhaps the one that "used" cryptocurrencies the most, so to speak. Perhaps this is one of the reasons why coins from online casinos are mostly classified in practically the same category as mixers. Bitcoin as an investment today is almost no problem in most democratic countries, but as a currency it has big problems.

[examplens]

BTT has a very large gambling community, but I would not say that it is a gambling forum, regardless of the fact that that part of the forum is quite active.

I think that approximately 50% of the activity on BTT is carried out by the gambling section. In the end, there are 20 gambling signature campaigns and only one that is not from the gambling industry.

The fact is that at least a few gambling campaigns on this forum would mean a lot in the sense that it would increase the activity which, realistically speaking, had already started to decline when the number of sig campaigns was reduced.

With $300 per week, the casino here can get 10 users in the campaign. Almost enough to dominate the forum, at least as far as gamblers are concerned
That's only enough for 3 slightly better posters on BTT.

[bitterguy28]

IMO, it's quite early to tell and I tend to agree with what yahoo said.
Lack of traffic might be the reason, look at the Gambling & Crypto casino board (9 pages) and the child board gambling discussion (7 pages).  As we can see, not that much if we compare it to Btt.

It might be soon when some of the managers here start introducing this forum to those gambling companies and users here also encourage to grow discussion on gambling boards.

well at least now that there is many account migrated/teleported that those section is now running active
comparing when before the mass teleportation happened that the section you mentioned seems like abandoned
threads so now we are seeing more mature sections in gambling discussion and hopefully in the coming months
this will be filled with ANN Thread that will make gambling enthusiast entering this forum.

[bitbit97]

hopefully in the coming months
this will be filled with ANN Thread that will make gambling enthusiast entering this forum.

Gambling enthusiasts or those who leech gambling advertising funds by posting useless posts on the forum? I see a lot of such users on BTT, who only post on gambling section to fill those "10 gambling post weekly quota" with the same information over and over again. Dont chase losses, be responsible gambler, gambling causes addiction and etc. Or fill gambling section with useless question like "how much should I bet?" "is <insert altcoin name> good for betting and etc". As well as those who login, make weekly post quota in 3-4 days and disappear from the forum or never reply to reply on their post.

[Lucius]

BTT has a very large gambling community, but I would not say that it is a gambling forum, regardless of the fact that that part of the forum is quite active.

I think that approximately 50% of the activity on BTT is carried out by the gambling section. In the end, there are 20 gambling signature campaigns and only one that is not from the gambling industry.

It is true that gambling campaigns dominate BTT, but there are still quality discussions in other parts of the forum. What is positive is that not all managers require a certain number of posts in Gambling boards, so there is much more freedom, at least as far as that is concerned.

The fact is that at least a few gambling campaigns on this forum would mean a lot in the sense that it would increase the activity which, realistically speaking, had already started to decline when the number of sig campaigns was reduced.

With $300 per week, the casino here can get 10 users in the campaign. Almost enough to dominate the forum, at least as far as gamblers are concerned
That's only enough for 3 slightly better posters on BTT.

My personal opinion is that campaigns should not go with such low pay rates, because it will not attract quality posters. Of course, some at BTT also have the criterion that quantity plays a more decisive role than quality, but I would not agree with that.

[SamReomo]

With $300 per week, the casino here can get 10 users in the campaign. Almost enough to dominate the forum, at least as far as gamblers are concerned

I agree, here a casino can have 10 or even more than 10 active members in a campaign for just $300 per week. There are so many members who still want to be part of signature campaigns and they agree to be part of a campaign for $30 per week without any issue.

Most of the campaigns pay with those rates, I believe that even if they pay $25 per week still many members will eagerly join those campaigns without any hesitation.