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Re: The idiots who think that single-use addresses are mixers
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2024, 03:59:18 PM »
From the very beginning, all those who used BTC as a currency were treated as criminals who are hiding something and dealing with illegal things - I think that this narrative is only getting better with time, i.e. that we all turn out to be not only criminals, but also those who support terrorism and we may even undermine the stability of national currencies.
It is absolutely true, here in my country they use this charge against those who work with Bitcoin. I mean the charge of "undermining the stability of the national currency." They are good at fabricating random charges.

Because of the stupidity and failure of the government here in my country, they know nothing about Bitcoin and call it a “foreign currency.” They consider anyone who deals in Bitcoin a criminal on charges of dealing in a foreign currency that causes damage to the national currency and may be sentenced to prison.


It just means that the level of democracy in your country is at a lower level than in some other countries, but everywhere in the world governments use all possible mechanisms to place as many messages as possible on the air with which they try to tell people not to invest in Bitcoin.

The system that has been built for thousands of years is based on controlling people by all possible means, and money is what the elites use to control the world - because how else to explain that 5% of the world's population controls 90% of the world's wealth, and that 95% of people hardly try to do anything to change that?

Bitcoin as the idea of ​​a decentralized currency is a nightmare for that centralized system, that's why they are trying to turn it in the direction where they can control it, which is complete control over CEXs, investing through spot/futures ETFs and a frontal attack on everything that has to do with privacy.

Some might say that idiots who do this are simply idiots, but an idiot who has a lot of money also has a lot of power - and money rules the world.
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Re: The idiots who think that single-use addresses are mixers
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2024, 07:50:19 PM »
Some might say that idiots who do this are simply idiots, but an idiot who has a lot of money also has a lot of power - and money rules the world.

An idiot who rules the world is not an idiot, that is a sinister, cunning person.

I have my doubts that someone who can't even summon common sense when it is desperately required is able to muster the resources to rule the world.
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Re: The idiots who think that single-use addresses are mixers
« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2024, 09:50:05 PM »
The system that has been built for thousands of years is based on controlling people by all possible means, and money is what the elites use to control the world - because how else to explain that 5% of the world's population controls 90% of the world's wealth, and that 95% of people hardly try to do anything to change that?
Thank you, man. You have a deep reading and a complete understanding of the nature of the political and economic system that governs our entire world in secret and in public.
Yes, this is the case. Whoever has money has control and power. The few elite that have money are the ones who move governments and all policies in the world.

Bitcoin as the idea of ​​a decentralized currency is a nightmare for that centralized system, that's why they are trying to turn it in the direction where they can control it, which is complete control over CEXs, investing through spot/futures ETFs and a frontal attack on everything that has to do with privacy.

Yes, I agree with you 100% on this point. Bitcoin, through centralization and privacy, is a nightmare for this central system, so governments that failed to prevent Bitcoin are trying to contain it by controlling central third-party services (CEX, spot/futures ETFs, and central payment services).

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Re: The idiots who think that single-use addresses are mixers
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2024, 02:02:11 AM »
An idiot who rules the world is not an idiot, that is a sinister, cunning person.

I have my doubts that someone who can't even summon common sense when it is desperately required is able to muster the resources to rule the world.
Well, I don't think they are idiots, they are just treating their followers as idiots and easy to be deceived :)

Currently, many politicians are looking for ways to attack Mixers but they haven't really found an effective way to do it. They know about the existence of Mixers, they can use Mixers but they haven't been able to figure out how to suppress Mixers. The criteria for identifying addresses related to Mixers are not getting much attention from the community, maybe everyone thinks it's silly and not worth caring about. We also don't need to worry too much about this until it is added to the law and officially enters the voting stage.
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Re: The idiots who think that single-use addresses are mixers
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2024, 05:05:35 PM »
Some might say that idiots who do this are simply idiots, but an idiot who has a lot of money also has a lot of power - and money rules the world.

An idiot who rules the world is not an idiot, that is a sinister, cunning person.
I have my doubts that someone who can't even summon common sense when it is desperately required is able to muster the resources to rule the world.


We can call them any names, but we should know that most of them are just pawns controlled by the most powerful people from the shadows - and they need loyal servants, not people who think for themselves.



The system that has been built for thousands of years is based on controlling people by all possible means, and money is what the elites use to control the world - because how else to explain that 5% of the world's population controls 90% of the world's wealth, and that 95% of people hardly try to do anything to change that?
Thank you, man. You have a deep reading and a complete understanding of the nature of the political and economic system that governs our entire world in secret and in public.
Yes, this is the case. Whoever has money has control and power. The few elite that have money are the ones who move governments and all policies in the world.


The world lives in a great paradox, on the one hand most people are dissatisfied with the life they have, and on the other hand they don't even try to use their right to vote to try to change something. Good people who could change something don't get a chance - because the saying goes that bad government is elected by good people who stay at home during elections.

However, not everything is so hopeless, because there are always people trying to change the system, but the changes I'm talking about don't happen overnight. Satoshi is one of the visionaries who had his own vision to give people an alternative, but the world is still far from accepting it. However, everyone who thinks differently because of him is a small cog that changes the system in his own unique way. Vires in numeris.
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Re: The idiots who think that single-use addresses are mixers
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2024, 05:51:04 PM »
However, not everything is so hopeless, because there are always people trying to change the system, but the changes I'm talking about don't happen overnight. Satoshi is one of the visionaries who had his own vision to give people an alternative, but the world is still far from accepting it. However, everyone who thinks differently because of him is a small cog that changes the system in his own unique way. Vires in numeris.

One thing that is getting worse and worse everyday is how our privacy is invaded. Sometimes when you order a beer at a club they ask for your personal data to fill up their database of customers. Or when you buy a t shirt

I think software developers are also to blame for this, because everyone is creating and seelling systems which have no respect for any privacy.

I think this is a problem in the mind set of most people. Asking documents looks cool nowadays
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Re: The idiots who think that single-use addresses are mixers
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2024, 10:14:30 PM »
However, not everything is so hopeless, because there are always people trying to change the system, but the changes I'm talking about don't happen overnight. Satoshi is one of the visionaries who had his own vision to give people an alternative, but the world is still far from accepting it. However, everyone who thinks differently because of him is a small cog that changes the system in his own unique way. Vires in numeris.

One thing that is getting worse and worse everyday is how our privacy is invaded. Sometimes when you order a beer at a club they ask for your personal data to fill up their database of customers. Or when you buy a t shirt

I think software developers are also to blame for this, because everyone is creating and seelling systems which have no respect for any privacy.

I think this is a problem in the mind set of most people. Asking documents looks cool nowadays
Yes, these things have become unbearably annoying, especially here in my country. When I receive a money order, for example, if it is less than $200, they only ask for the ID and phone number. However, if the amount exceeds $200, in a trivial amount, the employee begins by requesting documents and directing a package of Stupid questions, such as where do you live, where did you get the money from, what is your job, who sent you the money, and... and... as if she thought I would use this measly $200 to support terrorism.

If Bitcoin were accepted here in my country, I would get rid of all this annoying stuff.

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Re: The idiots who think that single-use addresses are mixers
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2024, 10:14:30 PM »


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Re: The idiots who think that single-use addresses are mixers
« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2024, 05:12:08 PM »
One thing that is getting worse and worse everyday is how our privacy is invaded. Sometimes when you order a beer at a club they ask for your personal data to fill up their database of customers. Or when you buy a t shirt

I haven't experienced it yet, but in case someone asks me for such information because I drank beer somewhere or bought some clothes, that would be the last time I bought something there. Maybe it's different in the EU with regard to data protection, but more or less all stores have their loyalty cards, and in order to get one you have to fill out an application form in which they ask for absolutely all possible information.

I think software developers are also to blame for this, because everyone is creating and seelling systems which have no respect for any privacy.
I think this is a problem in the mind set of most people. Asking documents looks cool nowadays


Some people may actually develop such software themselves, but it seems to me that most of the work is done on the orders of clients - which means that they want to know as much as possible about their customers in order to be able to show them advertisements and send promotional SMS/e-mails as efficiently as possible. If you know what the customer needs/buys, then you will be able to sell him even more, and the whole society revolves around consumerism, which of course stimulates the growth of the economy and allegedly creates a more successful society.
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Re: The idiots who think that single-use addresses are mixers
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2024, 06:26:31 PM »
Maybe it's different in the EU with regard to data protection, but more or less all stores have their loyalty cards, and in order to get one you have to fill out an application form in which they ask for absolutely all possible information.

In Brazil, loyalty cards usually give you access to huge discounts (like 30-40% off).

If you don't hand over your personal data, you will pay 30-40% more.

In the end, there isn't any discount. You must give your data to be able to buy for the real price....
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Re: The idiots who think that single-use addresses are mixers
« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2024, 12:12:02 PM »
Maybe it's different in the EU with regard to data protection, but more or less all stores have their loyalty cards, and in order to get one you have to fill out an application form in which they ask for absolutely all possible information.

In Brazil, loyalty cards usually give you access to huge discounts (like 30-40% off).

If you don't hand over your personal data, you will pay 30-40% more.

In the end, there isn't any discount. You must give your data to be able to buy for the real price....

Your personal data, all of it together, your whole "profile", all of that is worth more than a Rolex. Or a lambo. Maybe not as valuable as a mansion, but you can fetch at least 6 figures on it if everything about you is processed in a way that advertisers, stalkers and other malefactors want it in.

Before there was AI, there was data science, which is mostly used for that purpose. Still, there were some legitimate uses of it with public data, but most companies were harvesting private data and they get away with it because, what, people are happy downloading a survey app and earning $1? Per day??

People who sell their personal information are getting massively scammed by these companies.
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Re: The idiots who think that single-use addresses are mixers
« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2024, 03:09:04 PM »
Your personal data, all of it together, your whole "profile", all of that is worth more than a Rolex. Or a lambo. Maybe not as valuable as a mansion, but you can fetch at least 6 figures on it if everything about you is processed in a way that advertisers, stalkers and other malefactors want it in.

People who sell their personal information are getting massively scammed by these companies.

It really is a world-wide tragedy what is happening...  :'(
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Re: The idiots who think that single-use addresses are mixers
« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2024, 05:00:14 PM »
It really is a world-wide tragedy what is happening...  :'(

The tragedy will be even greater when they harness AI for their purposes, and the latest move shows that they want exactly that. China and some other "democratic" countries have gone much further in this direction, so we should not be surprised that Western democracies do not want to fall behind them. Controlling people, their actions and directing them in a certain direction is the biggest preoccupation of the modern world.

Quote from: https://fortune.com/2024/06/14/edward-snowden-eviscerates-openai-paul-nakasone-board-directors-decision/
OpenAI just appointed a former director of the National Security Agency (NSA) to its board of directors, and Edward Snowden is not happy.

“Do not ever trust OpenAI or its products,” the NSA employee turned whistleblower wrote on X Friday morning, after the company announced retired U.S. Army Gen. Paul Nakasone’s appointment to the board’s new safety and security committee. “There’s only one reason for appointing [an NSA director] to your board. This is a willful, calculated betrayal of the rights of every person on earth.”
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Re: The idiots who think that single-use addresses are mixers
« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2024, 10:10:09 AM »
Quote from: https://fortune.com/2024/06/14/edward-snowden-eviscerates-openai-paul-nakasone-board-directors-decision/
OpenAI just appointed a former director of the National Security Agency (NSA) to its board of directors, and Edward Snowden is not happy.

“Do not ever trust OpenAI or its products,” the NSA employee turned whistleblower wrote on X Friday morning, after the company announced retired U.S. Army Gen. Paul Nakasone’s appointment to the board’s new safety and security committee. “There’s only one reason for appointing [an NSA director] to your board. This is a willful, calculated betrayal of the rights of every person on earth.”

Oh man. I am already considering dumping my ChatGPT subscription, but I will be waiting to see how Apple Intelligence does first and if it is much better than GPT4 (and most importantly, does it have the same performance when running offline, or not).
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