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"Jian Wen, 42, was involved in converting Bitcoin into assets like luxury houses.

A former takeaway worker found with Bitcoin worth more than £2bn was jailed for six years and eight months for a crime linked to money laundering on Friday. Jian Wen, 42, from Hendon, in north London, was involved in converting the currency into assets including multi-million-pound houses and jewellery.

At Southwark Crown court in March, she was convicted of entering into or becoming concerned in a money laundering arrangement.The Metropolitan Police said at the time of the conviction the seizure was the largest of its kind in the UK."

When I came across this news on a bbc.com website I couldn't believed it but was moved to share over here to know her involvement as when she started making investment to have worth almost €2b worth in bitcoin, most times it's hard to believe story like this.

The floor is open for discussion (if this already discussed then remind me to Lock this topic)
also this post already been created the other forum by me as well to have different overview from people.

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Re: lady was jailed for converting €2bn worth of BTC into asset
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2024, 10:32:21 AM »

So, she moved from a small apartment to a rented house for about 17,000 per month, and she is a takeaway worker. I don’t know, but such lifestyle changes will quickly make the police knock on your door. She must have been exploited by a third party.


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Although Wen was living in a flat above a Chinese restaurant in Leeds when she became involved in the criminal activity, her new lifestyle saw her move into a six-bedroom house in north London in 2017 which was rented for more than £17,000 per month.
Another suspect is thought to be behind the fraud but they remain at large.
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The details of the money laundering process have not been clarified, and I do not know what money laundering activity is related to it, but I do not believe such stories.


Article link ---> https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-68620253
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Re: lady was jailed for converting €2bn worth of BTC into asset
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2024, 10:32:21 AM »

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Re: lady was jailed for converting €2bn worth of BTC into asset
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2024, 09:13:35 PM »
"Jian Wen, 42, was involved in converting Bitcoin into assets like luxury houses.
OMG BTC of worth $2 billion which now has become more than $3.2 billion due to the price fluctuations in money laundering is big news. I mean I am flattered BTW from the fact that how it became 3.2$ billion due to price fluctuations, this shows that those who have invested big will definitely going to earn big as well. That's an obvious thing well so let's focus on the case only.

When I saw the woman's face I thought she must be some kind of culprit I mean by the looks on her face who would say she had so much money, it seems that she is not a social person maybe, I am glad the process of money laundering has been stopped due to this person. As still the governments of the UK and authorities there will talk bad about BTC, they won't say a word about how she Money is laundered in Gold and via properties they will only talk about BTC as the more amount is in the form of BTC where are the stats showing he had some X money in gold or X money in Properties. Why only go after BTC. That's strange.
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Re: lady was jailed for converting €2bn worth of BTC into asset
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2024, 01:43:45 AM »
When I came across this news on a bbc.com website I couldn't believed it but was moved to share over here to know her involvement as when she started making investment to have worth almost €2b worth in bitcoin, most times it's hard to believe story like this.
If she could invest in crypto and earn €2B, I don't think she's an ordinary person. No ordinary person holds more than 30K BTC ^^

I think we should wait for the official conclusion on this case from the police. I do not support the money laundering activities of any bad guys in the market. This behavior causes BTC and the crypto community more legal trouble with annoying accusations.
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Re: lady was jailed for converting €2bn worth of BTC into asset
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2024, 09:59:15 AM »
Her action is clearly a very questionable one and since she cannot hide her luxurious way of living then this is what she can earn , am sure there are many of us here that also breaking their government rules but at least we knew how to hide our funds and uses them in living a normal life.

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Re: lady was jailed for converting €2bn worth of BTC into asset
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2024, 10:22:35 AM »
Well, I think that lady was not very clear about the concept of "keeping a low profile". Anyway, I think there are things in the news that don't make much sense... Did that lady go from having a takeaway job to having €2bn worth of Bitcoin from overnight?. I really doubt it... Did she not realize the exponential growth of the funds?. I also doubt it... A person who actually has a takeaway job wouldn't do something like that, or as @hugeblack says, that woman has been exploited and also deceived or forced for many things, including probably money laundering. The news itself is very strange without more details.
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Re: lady was jailed for converting €2bn worth of BTC into asset
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2024, 01:09:23 PM »
The news itself is very strange without more details.
She is part of an investment fraud operation according to some more detailed news.

She used illegal money to buy jewellery, luxury stuffs to legalize her fraud money and maybe she hope she can enjoy her life and will sell those stuffs later to get clean money.


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The subsequent investigation culminated in police seizing devices containing 61,000 bitcoins — currently worth more than $4 billion — in 2018, in what was the UK's largest-ever crypto seizure.

The funds are said to have come from an investment fraud operation in China led by her "employer," Yadi Zhang.

In her sentencing remarks, Judge Sally-Ann Hales, KC, said that more than 128,000 investors pumped 40 billion Renminbi (roughly $5.6 billion) into the scheme.

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Jian Wen, 42, who was alleged to have carrying out the laundering on behalf of her former boss, was found guilty in March.

Zhimian is alleged to have defrauded around 130,000 investors in China in an investment scam that brought in $5 billion.

If she could invest in crypto and earn €2B, I don't think she's an ordinary person. No ordinary person holds more than 30K BTC ^^
She scammed people and investors to get this whale-number of bitcoin. It is very abnormal that people suddenly got such massive bitcoins recently if they are not Bitcoin ogs from many years ago.

Only 101 addresses with bitcoins from 10k to 100k according to Bitcoin rich list.

But if we filter addresses with only 30k+ bitcoin, the figure is only 29 addresses. See there.
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Re: lady was jailed for converting €2bn worth of BTC into asset
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Re: lady was jailed for converting €2bn worth of BTC into asset
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2024, 10:14:02 AM »
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@tranthidung now everything makes more sense and I understand it better. Not only did she have a large amount of Bitcoins that she was trying to launder, but she obtained all of those funds through scams with more people. Well, I think Jian Wen has been very lucky that the sentence is only 6 years considering the amounts of money and the charges against her, in another countries the sentence would undoubtedly have been much more severe. I don't want to think what the sentence would have been like if the events had been in the United States, for example.

News of this type is what does the most damage to Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general, making the majority of the population think that those of us who use cryptocurrencies are criminals.

Thanks for expanding the information!
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Re: lady was jailed for converting €2bn worth of BTC into asset
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2024, 03:51:42 AM »
Her action is clearly a very questionable one and since she cannot hide her luxurious way of living then this is what she can earn , am sure there are many of us here that also breaking their government rules but at least we knew how to hide our funds and uses them in living a normal life.

The scale of this money laundering case is quite staggering and the reason why cryptocurrency got connected to this story is because fraudster Zhimin Qian accepted it for her scam operation and she was then using Jian Wen serving as a "front person" in laundering profits from a £5 billion investment fraud conducted in China between 2014 and 2017. With the temptation to display her newfound wealth so hard to resist, Jian Wen got investigated by authorities and is found to be doing something illegal so prison time is quite natural for her to experience. And I am hoping that this can be a big lesson to all people not to get into something involving fraud and scam as the arm of the law will eventually reach anyone anywhere.




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Re: lady was jailed for converting €2bn worth of BTC into asset
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2024, 04:20:05 AM »
Her action is clearly a very questionable one and since she cannot hide her luxurious way of living then this is what she can earn , am sure there are many of us here that also breaking their government rules but at least we knew how to hide our funds and uses them in living a normal life.

The scale of this money laundering case is quite staggering and the reason why cryptocurrency got connected to this story is because fraudster Zhimin Qian accepted it for her scam operation and she was then using Jian Wen serving as a "front person" in laundering profits from a £5 billion investment fraud conducted in China between 2014 and 2017. With the temptation to display her newfound wealth so hard to resist, Jian Wen got investigated by authorities and is found to be doing something illegal so prison time is quite natural for her to experience. And I am hoping that this can be a big lesson to all people not to get into something involving fraud and scam as the arm of the law will eventually reach anyone anywhere.
A very hard lesson to learn ,  being jailed and may lose her assets just because of greedy action , and this prove one thing that you cannot Hide everything from the government unless you can keep your life normal and not be over showing your wealth .
sometimes we must keep our head down so others cannot see the mistakes in our faces , this will be a reminder for everyone that involving into crypto .

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Re: lady was jailed for converting €2bn worth of BTC into asset
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2024, 05:36:23 AM »
News of this type is what does the most damage to Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general, making the majority of the population think that those of us who use cryptocurrencies are criminals.
I think the media has turned into a rage-bait machine in general. Sometimes they don't even fact-check and post fake info without any remorse. It is not limited to crypto, even game news is not free from their misleading title and articles. I believe the only people who regularly read news like this already have their mindset fixed anyway.

sometimes we must keep our head down so others cannot see the mistakes in our faces , this will be a reminder for everyone that involving into crypto .
Hard to imagine a police will randomly track the average joe down because they got rich so suddenly though. Maybe they will charge you with tax avoidance or something along those lines, where you can pay tax without being jailed for your 'crime'. Still, it is always a good idea to keep your privacy practices strong.

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Re: lady was jailed for converting €2bn worth of BTC into asset
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2024, 10:24:30 AM »
Hard to imagine a police will randomly track the average joe down because they got rich so suddenly though.
It is not that difficult, as you will pay either in cash or via a bank transfer. If your bank account is around $10,000 per month, then inevitably if you receive a transfer of $5 million, the account will be closed and you will be asked about the source of the funds. However, if you paid in cash, in some cases it may be Send your data to the police to verify the source of the money. Therefore, it is not easy to live a luxurious life with money that you are trying to hide from the government.
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Re: lady was jailed for converting €2bn worth of BTC into asset
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2024, 11:00:54 AM »
You cannot escape government surveillance if as a regular worker, you become very wealthy and are on a buying spree without a good and clear explanation of where you get your funds, because the government is good on its taxation and will always look for possible ways to tax its people you will under their radar if you are not moderate with your riches.

The government tracks all their taxpayers and they are good at pinning you down, since the lady has questionable sources the government through its created laws can confiscate your riches.
They allow you to grow your money but you have to allow the government to track you on how you made your money.
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Re: lady was jailed for converting €2bn worth of BTC into asset
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2024, 11:56:22 PM »

So, she moved from a small apartment to a rented house for about 17,000 per month, and she is a takeaway worker. I don’t know, but such lifestyle changes will quickly make the police knock on your door. She must have been exploited by a third party.
Exactly. Because when a low-income earner, changes his or her living into a luxury, it brings up different monitors from people around to question or report the person's source of income to the government authority where the sudden financial upliftment is coming from.

I think the new wealth of the takeaway worker will be questionable and suspicious in any given societal environment because it's very rare for a low-income salary earner to rent a house for $17,000 per month without having illegal deals.

The takeaway worker brought the arrest to herself by showing off and living a luxurious life for herself.

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Re: lady was jailed for converting €2bn worth of BTC into asset
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2024, 01:47:53 AM »
Bitcoin being used for illegal activity has always been a great news story to tell, journalists love talking about it like bitcoin makes it possible. I have to say, a lot of people laundered tens of billions, probably hundreds of billions of dollars until today without using bitcoin, I mean the combined money laundering of all time, not just a few people. That means, bitcoin isn't the one that makes this possible, it is always been done, and even if bitcoin didn't exist, people would have found a way. Doesn't mean that bitcoin can't be used, it just means that it is a snarky and terrible thing these newspapers do to make it look like bitcoin had any part in it.

 

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