Coinjoin software joinstr added an electrum plugin

[NotATether]

This is great but it shouldn't be this hard to install an electrum plugin. I remember I have always struggled to look for documentation on how to install new plugins, because in the Electrum UI there is no such mechanism for installing a new plugin.

I found developer of Joinstr on twitter and this is what he is saying about wadsabi coordinators:

1 coordinator that censors some UTXOs and partnered with chain analysis company - gingerwallet
1 coordinator which has address reuse issues and inputs could be linked with outputs - btip.nl
5 wabisabi coordinators that are dead and did no coinjoin in last few days - kukks.org, starloop.cc, opencoordinator.org, dragondance.com, mega.cash.
So there are only 2 coordinators that remain relevant for now

https://x.com/1440000bytes/status/1807914437577204040

To be honest, I am not happy with Ginger Wallet's actions at all. I'm thinking of putting an exclamation mark next to them on my site.

[dkbit98]

To be honest, I am not happy with Ginger Wallet's actions at all. I'm thinking of putting an exclamation mark next to them on my site.

It's their project and they can do whatever they want with it, but market will decide in the end if they are going to survive or not.
Something good came out after recent arrests and bans, so now we can clearly see there is a lot of interest for better privacy with Bitcoin.
I am sure we are going to see something great soon, maybe mimble wimble for Bitcoin, better etter Joinstr wallet or something totally new.
Silent Payments is another step into good direction.

[Yamane_Keto]

I found developer of Joinstr on twitter and this is what he is saying about wadsabi coordinators:

1 coordinator that censors some UTXOs and partnered with chain analysis company - gingerwallet
1 coordinator which has address reuse issues and inputs could be linked with outputs - btip.nl
5 wabisabi coordinators that are dead and did no coinjoin in last few days - kukks.org, starloop.cc, opencoordinator.org, dragondance.com, mega.cash.
So there are only 2 coordinators that remain relevant for now

https://x.com/1440000bytes/status/1807914437577204040

gingerwallet may last for a while. Governments need a backdoor to track bitcoin and will allow any similar service to work, but downloading a wallet to use a coordinator is something that no one looking for privacy would do.
2 coordinators are very sufficient due to the presence of mixers, and I think that some mixers may manage new coordinators as it is easier to mix bitcoin using mixers instead of managing or dealing with coordinators.

[bitmover]

I found developer of Joinstr on twitter and this is what he is saying about wadsabi coordinators:

1 coordinator that censors some UTXOs and partnered with chain analysis company - gingerwallet
1 coordinator which has address reuse issues and inputs could be linked with outputs - btip.nl
5 wabisabi coordinators that are dead and did no coinjoin in last few days - kukks.org, starloop.cc, opencoordinator.org, dragondance.com, mega.cash.
So there are only 2 coordinators that remain relevant for now

https://x.com/1440000bytes/status/1807914437577204040

To be honest, I am not happy with Ginger Wallet's actions at all. I'm thinking of putting an exclamation mark next to them on my site.

What would happen in this case for censored UTXO? Would they just give back, or would they just confiscate the funds from you?

As the wallet is open source, maybe there is a clue about it?

Or is the coordinator which ginger uses closed source?

[Yamane_Keto]

What would happen in this case for censored UTXO? Would they just give back, or would they just confiscate the funds from you?

As the wallet is open source, maybe there is a clue about it?

Or is the coordinator which ginger uses closed source?

They are filtering who can use them coordinator. By restricting who can use the coordinator, they will not allow you to join a coinjoin transaction if your address does not meet their terms of use, and if you are a US citizen, you will be blocked from downloading the wallet.

[dkbit98]

gingerwallet may last for a while. Governments need a backdoor to track bitcoin and will allow any similar service to work, but downloading a wallet to use a coordinator is something that no one looking for privacy would do.

I don't think ginger wallet is the backdoor, but they are tricked into thinking that adding obscure censorship will someone give them green pass from government.
We should all learn by now that working with the devil is never going to end up good. 

What would happen in this case for censored UTXO? Would they just give back, or would they just confiscate the funds from you?

I think it would be the same as with Wasabi wallet, you would be able to perform coinjoin.
They can't seize coins from anyone.

Or is the coordinator which ginger uses closed source?

I don't think so.