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How would you do it to be anonymous?
« on: June 23, 2024, 11:35:38 AM »

You want to be anonymous to banks and to the government of your country not because you are criminal but you just want to after all we are trying to use mixers to make it untraceable.

For instance I generate a new BTC address to a newly installed electrum. but cashing out to send the BTC to a p2p means I will submit bank account or local digital currency wallet which I've submitted KYC reveals myself already. So how do I do it?

Would you recommend using someone else bank account or someone else local currency wallet which is linked to someone else name?

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How would you do it to be anonymous?
« on: June 23, 2024, 11:35:38 AM »

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Re: How would you do it to be anonymous?
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2024, 01:06:56 PM »
For instance I generate a new BTC address to a newly installed electrum. but cashing out to send the BTC to a p2p means I will submit bank account or local digital currency wallet which I've submitted KYC reveals myself already. So how do I do it?

At very least, only the buyer know your identity. Your bank or fiat wallet wouldn't know for sure you cash out your Bitcoin, unless the buyer include message which reveal such information.

Would you recommend using someone else bank account or someone else local currency wallet which is linked to someone else name?

Probably no, since you may be suspected performing money mule.
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Re: How would you do it to be anonymous?
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Re: How would you do it to be anonymous?
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2024, 09:00:15 PM »
Using someone else's bank account would not only create problems for that specific person, but it would also put you in the spotlight as a potential money launderer, and trouble would begin for both of you. 100% effective anonymity does not exist, and if such anonymity existed, it would be lost the moment you want to send fiat to any bank.

I used LocalBitcoins quite a few years ago (the website still exists, but new registrations are not possible) and never had any problems.

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At LocalBitcoins you could find people in your city to buy and sell Bitcoins, while the deposit remained blocked until the purchase/sale was satisfactory for both parties.

It's a shame you can't create an account to use that service, it's what you were looking for. I don't know if there are similar services, but you can always search for information.
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Re: How would you do it to be anonymous?
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2024, 11:07:14 PM »

You want to be anonymous to banks and to the government of your country not because you are criminal but you just want to after all we are trying to use mixers to make it untraceable.

For instance I generate a new BTC address to a newly installed electrum. but cashing out to send the BTC to a p2p means I will submit bank account or local digital currency wallet which I've submitted KYC reveals myself already. So how do I do it?

Would you recommend using someone else bank account or someone else local currency wallet which is linked to someone else name?
Honestly, I don't have a need for anonymity guarantees. My crypto holdings aren't really significant and aren't enough to put me in danger. I use Mixers but only to make sure my BTC I deposit on CEXs are "clean".

Governments are trying to find every way to regulate and limit the ability of bad guys to abuse crypto for money laundering, so efforts to ensure anonymity could become illegal. I think some solutions you can take to protect your identity are using Mixers, using CEXs that don't require KYC, P2P trading to avoid identity verification or banking services.
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Re: How would you do it to be anonymous?
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2024, 04:26:38 AM »
Would you recommend using someone else bank account or someone else local currency wallet which is linked to someone else name?

Do you mean here stealing someone else identity? It's not recommendable obviously. But if you can used like your wife or maybe your kids info just for the sake of having to hide your personal data from the prying eyes of the government, maybe, but still they might trace it back to you.

The only thing that I think of is just except your BTC and meeting someone face to face. But there's also that risk involved, as you don't know who gonna meet personally. Maybe you can get someone to vouch for that guy and then meet him in a place that there is plenty of people around.
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Re: How would you do it to be anonymous?
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2024, 04:31:41 AM »

You want to be anonymous to banks and to the government of your country not because you are criminal but you just want to after all we are trying to use mixers to make it untraceable.

For instance I generate a new BTC address to a newly installed electrum. but cashing out to send the BTC to a p2p means I will submit bank account or local digital currency wallet which I've submitted KYC reveals myself already. So how do I do it?

Would you recommend using someone else bank account or someone else local currency wallet which is linked to someone else name?

I would lock this thread and ask mods to delete it. This thread is a threat to being anonymous.

it is very likely that government people will look here and use this thread to attack the ideas given here.
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Re: How would you do it to be anonymous?
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2024, 08:41:03 AM »
Hard to be anonymous...
There are a lot of aspects to maintaining your anonymity. Setting the clock, disabling cokies is still okay. Anonymous browsers, in addition to all this, do not even recommend turning on the site window to full screen - apparently sites of some kind see the screen resolution (which may be a clue for your identification).
Well, yesterday I saw the following for the first time: I have Kaspersky anti-virus installed, and suddenly he writes that Skype from trey uses a camera. Do you think the camera's diode was on?
So it was in vain that everyone laughed at Zuckerberg with a taped camera.
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Re: How would you do it to be anonymous?
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2024, 08:41:03 AM »


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Re: How would you do it to be anonymous?
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2024, 01:20:22 PM »
What is your goal to avoid government tracking? Do you want to obscure the source of your bitcoins or do you not want them to know you are involved with crypto at all?
I can tell that the tracking capabilities of local banks in my country aren't very aggressive, so I don't really need a high level of anonymity and be that paranoid. P2p trading is enough for me to avoid annoying bank officer questions. After all, the amount I usually exchange wouldn't attract their attention.

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Re: How would you do it to be anonymous?
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2024, 02:18:56 PM »
For instance I generate a new BTC address to a newly installed electrum. but cashing out to send the BTC to a p2p means I will submit bank account or local digital currency wallet which I've submitted KYC reveals myself already. So how do I do it?
I am having a hard time understanding you, but i get that you want to stay anonymous, first thing to do is to never submit kyc to any crypto service. So you have to buy and sell BTC through p2p exchanges, and you have to also use mixers and CoinJoin services to obfuscate the origin of your tx's.

If the circumstances are right for you, trading face to face is also an option, that is if you know what you are doing and lastly you should avoid reusing BTC addresses.

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Re: How would you do it to be anonymous?
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2024, 04:13:24 PM »
For instance I generate a new BTC address to a newly installed electrum. but cashing out to send the BTC to a p2p means I will submit bank account or local digital currency wallet which I've submitted KYC reveals myself already. So how do I do it?

There is no way that you will want to use fiat without undergoing compulsory kyc, you have to but you can use Bitcoin without any verification. The only way you can spend Bitcoin without kyc is when you spend it in a place where they accept Bitcoin for transactions, most p2p platform require verification but if you can get some merchant that does p2p lowkey, you can sell your bitcoin without verification.

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Would you recommend using someone else bank account or someone else local currency wallet which is linked to someone else name?

If the person agreed to accept his account to accept Bitcoin and help you convert it to fiat, then it's fine but most exchange wouldn't accept another account that is different from your name, it's against their policy.
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Re: How would you do it to be anonymous?
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2024, 07:09:49 PM »
For instance I generate a new BTC address to a newly installed electrum. but cashing out to send the BTC to a p2p means I will submit bank account or local digital currency wallet which I've submitted KYC reveals myself already. So how do I do it?
Don't use bank account and other form of digital payments, but instead use physical cash payments and p2p trading.

Would you recommend using someone else bank account or someone else local currency wallet which is linked to someone else name?
No, unless this is one of your family members.
Doing otherwise you can end up arrested and pay additional fees for braking regulations, and get other person in trouble.
This is not worth a risk.
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Re: How would you do it to be anonymous?
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2024, 07:24:45 PM »
P2p in Binance still makes you inout your bank data in binance which is still revealing to them the information. Although its not public, the company/exchange obviously has my data.

This makes me or any user not anon even after using P2p since the platform requires user to input bank details.

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Re: How would you do it to be anonymous?
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2024, 08:09:01 AM »

You want to be anonymous to banks and to the government of your country not because you are criminal but you just want to after all we are trying to use mixers to make it untraceable.


This is not accurate. Mixers make tracking your bitcoins more difficult, but at some point, if you want to hide something from the government and it has sufficient resources to track you, a small mistake may make it easier to reveal your identity.
Would you recommend using someone else bank account or someone else local currency wallet which is linked to someone else name?
You can sell Bitcoin for cash or gift cards and then use those cards to buy goods and products.Do not use another person's identity. All you have done is moved the problem from you to him.


P2p in Binance still makes you inout your bank data in binance which is still revealing to them the information. Although its not public, the company/exchange obviously has my data.

This makes me or any user not anon even after using P2p since the platform requires user to input bank details.
use Bisq or any DEX P2P, Search on Facebook or Twitter for someone who can conduct a cash transaction in a public place
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Re: How would you do it to be anonymous?
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2024, 04:29:02 PM »
What is your goal to avoid government tracking? Do you want to obscure the source of your bitcoins or do you not want them to know you are involved with crypto at all?
I can tell that the tracking capabilities of local banks in my country aren't very aggressive, so I don't really need a high level of anonymity and be that paranoid. P2p trading is enough for me to avoid annoying bank officer questions. After all, the amount I usually exchange wouldn't attract their attention.

The amount of coins I have is not also going to make the government interested but what about in the future when even the tokens we hold becomes valuable?

I'm puzzled with the idea when technical users says something like there's no such thing a private. If its true actually, it looks like were all screwed already if governments are going to crack down wallets.


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Re: How would you do it to be anonymous?
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2024, 10:00:47 AM »
The amount of coins I have is not also going to make the government interested but what about in the future when even the tokens we hold becomes valuable?

I'm puzzled with the idea when technical users says something like there's no such thing a private. If its true actually, it looks like were all screwed already if governments are going to crack down wallets.

Frankly the government is least bothered about you as you are not a threat. If you want to stay anonymous then first delete all your digital footprint. It is not that easy to do it as it requires you to completely vanish from the internet. I do not think it is possible to hide every financial transactions. As you have already mentioned you are using P2P for cash out. That means you are still leaving financial foot prints which the government can question you if they want to.
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