AltcoinsTalks forum simple monthly report: June 2024

[icopress]

This will only change if traffic on altcointalk increases. To do this, you need to get rid of many things (remove many unnecessary sections, improve the quality of content, create a reputation system and get rid of various types of custom ratings and restrictions... get rid of IP tracking, etc.). As far as I know, the admin is currently working on many of the things I mentioned.

[Lucius]

I had also looked at this issue and it appeared as if;
1. The mixers promoting here wants higher traffic before they start paying good money. But if there's no gain at all or traffic from here, they would have stopped promoting entirely. For them to still remain here, means that they are benefitting

There is no doubt about it, it is obvious that advertising on the forum has a positive effect on mixers, no one would pay for something that does not bring them results. On the other hand, not a single online casino that advertises on BTT today advertises on this forum, so the question arises why they do not see any benefit for their business here?

2. The managers are one ones allocating this pay rates. You can see that Icopress is paying higher than all. Maybe if another manager takes the pay to $70, the competition will set in.

There has always been a competition between managers about who will get the best members, but obviously no one else can beat the current highest payrates because what is being offered now is perhaps the upper limit that mixers can pay considering what they get in return.


@icopress, the truth is that ATT cannot be compared to BTT in many matters regarding visits and traffic, and also, as you say, there is still a lot of work to be done on the forum in order to attract as many new users as possible. It certainly cannot be done overnight, but I hope that there will be positive changes in the near future.

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2. The managers are one ones allocating this pay rates. You can see that Icopress is paying higher than all. Maybe if another manager takes the pay to $70, the competition will set in.

There has always been a competition between managers about who will get the best members, but obviously no one else can beat the current highest payrates because what is being offered now is perhaps the upper limit that mixers can pay considering what they get in return.

The fight for the title of the most paid campaign often ends badly. This should not be a reason to dry campaign balance without evident results.
Also, a campaign that pays two participants $70, and the other 20 participants only $30, cannot be considered most paid.

[MrSpasybo]

This will only change if traffic on altcointalk increases. To do this, you need to get rid of many things (remove many unnecessary sections, improve the quality of content, create a reputation system and get rid of various types of custom ratings and restrictions... get rid of IP tracking, etc.). As far as I know, the admin is currently working on many of the things I mentioned.

AltcoinsTalks still has a long way to go to catch up with BitcoinTalk, but at least we are still here and growing every day. I think the admin and AltcoinsTalks community are gradually making the necessary changes to help AltcoinsTalk become more popular, have more users, reach more crypto investors, and have more traffic!

Personally, I hope that we will have more high-quality and timely content to attract readership and interaction from the community. That is always an important part of the development of every crypto forum.

[KingsDen]

On the other hand, not a single online casino that advertises on BTT today advertises on this forum, so the question arises why they do not see any benefit for their business here?

The reason could be this simple;
Here is considered as an alternative to BTT. There's actually no traffic that here can give that BTT won't give and they rarely have different user base. So, the casinos will only promote here even in their numbers if they are stopped by theymos in BTT. The reason mixers are here is because they cannot be there.

Also, a campaign that pays two participants $70, and the other 20 participants only $30, cannot be considered most paid.

Yes. I am happy you saw from this angle as well. Most paid should be what the highest rank in that campaign earns and not preferential earnings.

[dkbit98]

This will only change if traffic on altcointalk increases. To do this, you need to get rid of many things (remove many unnecessary sections, improve the quality of content, create a reputation system and get rid of various types of custom ratings and restrictions... get rid of IP tracking, etc.). As far as I know, the admin is currently working on many of the things I mentioned.

It certainly need a lot more improvements and updates to make this place better for everyone.
I don't think AltcoinsTalks can ever catch up Bitcointalk forum with activity, but it can improve and come closer for sure.
Admin is not so much active with posting in forum, so I hope he is working on new updates behind the scenes.

[KingsDen]

This will only change if traffic on altcointalk increases. To do this, you need to get rid of many things (remove many unnecessary sections, improve the quality of content, create a reputation system and get rid of various types of custom ratings and restrictions... get rid of IP tracking, etc.). As far as I know, the admin is currently working on many of the things I mentioned.

It certainly need a lot more improvements and updates to make this place better for everyone.
I don't think AltcoinsTalks can ever catch up Bitcointalk forum with activity, but it can improve and come closer for sure.
Admin is not so much active with posting in forum, so I hope he is working on new updates behind the scenes.

It's almost certain that the activity here cannot compete with that of BTT but there'll be a significant improvement in the activities here in the future if things are done right.
It's not so long that Icopress wrote that above, but we can attest that the admin had done good job for months now. He rearranged the boards, removed many unnecessary ones and merged some. I need to applaud him while believing him to do more, especially in the area of privacy.

[Faisal2202]

Signature campaigns have created healthy competition on AltcoinsTalks and boosted the positivity of many members. I think this is good for the forum and Mixers projects, this win-win relationship helps us all develop together, and users with needs can also access the most suitable crypto mixing services.

I can't agree more with you but what if the same consequences came to this forum from BTT as well? What if authorities find there way to this forum as well? I won't be surprised but happy to see the adoption of rules and regulations here as well. I mean if something bad is happening it needs to be stopped right? Besides no doubt the shifting of mixer campaigns to this site has increased the traffic greatly and recently some old comparing (which was paused) are now active again and you will see the results for July will be better than now.

We are in a bullrun, and AltcoinsTalks indirectly receives a positive impact when there are more members, more topics, more traffic and searches. The opposite happens when the market goes into bearsleep and is dominated by boredom, despair and anger. I witnessed this in 2018 and 2022, I hope that the same will not happen in 2026 when the crypto market and our forum have truly matured.

But I think in boredom and anger some smart people might want to learn what they can do now to make a profit in the future. I mean, when market dump or in bearish mode, most of the people don't just hate the market but they find ways to determine which coins will be best for upcoming bull run.

[MrSpasybo]

It's almost certain that the activity here cannot compete with that of BTT but there'll be a significant improvement in the activities here in the future if things are done right.
It's not so long that Icopress wrote that above, but we can attest that the admin had done good job for months now. He rearranged the boards, removed many unnecessary ones and merged some. I need to applaud him while believing him to do more, especially in the area of privacy.

In the past year or so, we have seen many positive changes to the layout, policies, and regulations of AltcoinsTalks, and we have also recognized the positive impact they have had on member behavior and traffic. Admin has made a real effort to implement community suggestions, and the community is also becoming more active in creating valuable content for AltcoinsTalks.

I dare not hope for anything more, the development of the forum has been enough for me to be temporarily satisfied and confident in the future of AltcoinsTalks in the crypto community.

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1. Rank
Global Rank: #480,386 (up 14,790)
Country Rank: #38,840 (up 103) in Russia

2. Total Visits: 146.2K/month (+8.4K ~ +6.1%)

3. Pages per Visit: 2.17 (-0.1 ~ -4.41%)

4. Avg Visit Duration: 00:02:05

How reliable are these data from Similarweb?
I use their plugin for Chrome and it shows me a significant deviation from the data MrSpasybo presented. I know that SW is not the most accurate, it's more like a quick follow-up of basic statistics, but it's strange to me that it gives such different results

[notblox1]

How reliable are these data from Similarweb?
I use their plugin for Chrome and it shows me a significant deviation from the data MrSpasybo presented. I know that SW is not the most accurate, it's more like a quick follow-up of basic statistics, but it's strange to me that it gives such different results

Is there anything better to use instead of Similarweb?
I am reserved about all this results that cant be verified, so maybe it would be good to use results from two or three similar websites.

After searching on internet I found Similarsites but it gave me only basic Monthly Visits 146K and Category Rank #5,931
https://www.similarsites.com/site/altcoinstalks.com

[Lucius]

I can't agree more with you but what if the same consequences came to this forum from BTT as well? What if authorities find there way to this forum as well? I won't be surprised but happy to see the adoption of rules and regulations here as well. I mean if something bad is happening it needs to be stopped right? Besides no doubt the shifting of mixer campaigns to this site has increased the traffic greatly and recently some old comparing (which was paused) are now active again and you will see the results for July will be better than now.
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The decision to ban mixers on BTT was the decision of one admin, and he says that there was no pressure from anyone outside for such a move. Besides, do you think that ATT is invisible and unknown to those who fight battles against mixers?

In addition, as far as I know, according to US law, whoever promotes something is not responsible for the fact that someone may abuse that service or product. Just look at what is happening on social networks or what is displayed as a sponsored search result through Google - for them, mixers are small babies if we take into account the number of scams and fake mixers that just rob people of money.

As far as I understand the situation, mixers can be banned from promoting on ATT only if the admin and president decide so, and the only possible reason would be if the authorities threaten to take down the forum and seize the domain.

[Faisal2202]

The decision to ban mixers on BTT was the decision of one admin, and he says that there was no pressure from anyone outside for such a move. Besides, do you think that ATT is invisible and unknown to those who fight battles against mixers?

In addition, as far as I know, according to US law, whoever promotes something is not responsible for the fact that someone may abuse that service or product. Just look at what is happening on social networks or what is displayed as a sponsored search result through Google - for them, mixers are small babies if we take into account the number of scams and fake mixers that just rob people of money.

As far as I understand the situation, mixers can be banned from promoting on ATT only if the admin and president decide so, and the only possible reason would be if the authorities threaten to take down the forum and seize the domain.

So you are saying admin alone can't take the decision to ban the promotion of these mixers on ATT (I prefer to say ALTT). I don't have good knowledge of law but I do have the idea that if a product can be used for good and bad usage and someone is promoting it then there should be no problem. Like you took the example of search consoles which can show you good and bad stuff so the promoters are not responsible but the actor is.

Overall, I do agree with you that this forum is not hidden from them what I meant to say is maybe they are keeping any eye on it as well and waiting for the right opportunity. Well, I guess proper steps will be taken by the admins and presidents here for the safety of the forum. Like if things go that road.

[MrSpasybo]

How reliable are these data from Similarweb?
I use their plugin for Chrome and it shows me a significant deviation from the data MrSpasybo presented. I know that SW is not the most accurate, it's more like a quick follow-up of basic statistics, but it's strange to me that it gives such different results

I'm also not sure about the accuracy of the results, I only used SimilarWeb on the official website and got the data in the report. It is possible that the plugin uses a different dataset or filters and gives different results. Honestly, I don't have enough knowledge to make a conclusion or guess for this difference.

I think all data comes with errors, we can only refer to one data source in the long term to determine the trend of traffic changes.

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The decision to ban mixers on BTT was the decision of one admin, and he says that there was no pressure from anyone outside for such a move.

Looking at the things that have happened in the past few months, theymos' decision to ban mixer promotion makes sense. After the closing of the Samurai wallet, suing Sushiswap, and other similar cases who knows how the promotion of the mixers on Btt would be interpreted, especially considering that theymos is a US citizen.

I'm also not sure about the accuracy of the results, I only used SimilarWeb on the official website and got the data in the report. It is possible that the plugin uses a different dataset or filters and gives different results. Honestly, I don't have enough knowledge to make a conclusion or guess for this difference.

I think all data comes with errors, we can only refer to one data source in the long term to determine the trend of traffic changes.

Similarweb has taken the place among webmaster tools that were previously held by the Alexa service. And as far as I remember, Alexa was quite imprecise with its data report.

Among other things, I currently maintain one domain, and I have quite different results of traffic on three different platforms. Google Analytics, Cloudflare and Similarweb, and the deviations are not small, but 10x depending on the service.