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Re: Hold or sell?
« Reply #570 on: March 12, 2025, 01:48:02 PM »
Of course, none of the regular users know the plans of regulators on this matter, but thanks to sites such as Arkham, it is possible to track the movement of confiscated BTC and other cryptocurrencies currently owned by the US government.
I thought there were rumors that the US would use the confiscated BTCs as a reserve with a long-term holding strategy, meaning they are unlikely to ever sell BTCs from the reserve.
It is interesting that we can track confiscated cryptocurrencies like BTC through sites like Arkham which provides some transparency even if government plans are unclear. Transparency is crucial in crypto space where government actions and motivations are mostly unclear. There are rumors that US government might hold onto confiscated BTC as long term reserve which could impact market by reducing available BTC driving up demand and affecting prices.
Government reasons for holding BTC are unclear are they waiting for a better time to sell or do they think BTC has long term value? Whatever reason  crypto community will be watching closely and government decisions will likely have significant consequences.

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Re: Hold or sell?
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Re: Hold or sell?
« Reply #571 on: March 12, 2025, 05:55:22 PM »
Yes, you are right, but if America sells its Bitcoin holdings, it will create bad news and certainly reduce many people's confidence in Bitcoin. This is because the United States has a significant influence on the growth of crypto. For example, Solana—if Donald Trump had not acquired Solana as part of one of America’s reserve funds, its price might have been around $100. However, due to the news that Donald Trump acquired Solana, its price strengthened and is now able to stay above $100.
Sure, there will be negative impact on the market if US sells their Bitcoin. However, I think the chance isn't that high because US doesn't want to lose their domination in crypto. If US sells their Bitcoin, China will lead the domination in crypto. Also, Trump has just ordered to have crypto reserves. One of the crypto reserves is Bitcoin. It doesn't make sense if US will sell their Bitcoin in the near future. What they probably will do is to add more their Bitcoin quantity. Anyway, it is true that the issues made by Trump has a significant impact in the market nowadays.
I am not saying that the United States will sell their Bitcoin anytime soon. No one knows when the United States will sell their Bitcoin no country will sell their Bitcoin unless there is no other choice but to sell it.

        -      You are right in what you say, no one knows when they will sell their bitcoin holdings. Now, given what is happening in the market at the moment, I just think it is possible that the US might even buy bitcoin because the percentage that the price of bitcoin has dropped is still large.

And of course that is an opportunity for them because we are almost closed to the peak price of bitcoin, in my opinion only.

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Re: Hold or sell?
« Reply #572 on: March 13, 2025, 09:29:46 AM »
Yes, you are right, but if America sells its Bitcoin holdings, it will create bad news and certainly reduce many people's confidence in Bitcoin. This is because the United States has a significant influence on the growth of crypto. For example, Solana—if Donald Trump had not acquired Solana as part of one of America’s reserve funds, its price might have been around $100. However, due to the news that Donald Trump acquired Solana, its price strengthened and is now able to stay above $100.
Sure, there will be negative impact on the market if US sells their Bitcoin. However, I think the chance isn't that high because US doesn't want to lose their domination in crypto. If US sells their Bitcoin, China will lead the domination in crypto. Also, Trump has just ordered to have crypto reserves. One of the crypto reserves is Bitcoin. It doesn't make sense if US will sell their Bitcoin in the near future. What they probably will do is to add more their Bitcoin quantity. Anyway, it is true that the issues made by Trump has a significant impact in the market nowadays.
I am not saying that the United States will sell their Bitcoin anytime soon. No one knows when the United States will sell their Bitcoin no country will sell their Bitcoin unless there is no other choice but to sell it.

        -      You are right in what you say, no one knows when they will sell their bitcoin holdings. Now, given what is happening in the market at the moment, I just think it is possible that the US might even buy bitcoin because the percentage that the price of bitcoin has dropped is still large.

And of course that is an opportunity for them because we are almost closed to the peak price of bitcoin, in my opinion only.
When it comes to selling then anyone do have have the rights into the coins that they've been holding into on which it will really be that still the same for us small time traders on doing such thing. We are all that wanting or liking to make profis and as so as with those governments or billionaires on which they would really be selling out their coins at the right time that they will be seeing that they had gained up sufficient profits then there's nothing we can do but we do able deal up with these possible drops in prices because we are all have that same goal on which to make profits and thats a normal approach to have. You are the ones will really be that making up decisions on your holdings , the things what do sucks is that whenever these big time holders to make sell then it can make out that impact.

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Re: Hold or sell?
« Reply #573 on: March 13, 2025, 12:05:29 PM »
Yes, you are right, but if America sells its Bitcoin holdings, it will create bad news and certainly reduce many people's confidence in Bitcoin. This is because the United States has a significant influence on the growth of crypto. For example, Solana—if Donald Trump had not acquired Solana as part of one of America’s reserve funds, its price might have been around $100. However, due to the news that Donald Trump acquired Solana, its price strengthened and is now able to stay above $100.
Sure, there will be negative impact on the market if US sells their Bitcoin. However, I think the chance isn't that high because US doesn't want to lose their domination in crypto. If US sells their Bitcoin, China will lead the domination in crypto. Also, Trump has just ordered to have crypto reserves. One of the crypto reserves is Bitcoin. It doesn't make sense if US will sell their Bitcoin in the near future. What they probably will do is to add more their Bitcoin quantity. Anyway, it is true that the issues made by Trump has a significant impact in the market nowadays.
I am not saying that the United States will sell their Bitcoin anytime soon. No one knows when the United States will sell their Bitcoin no country will sell their Bitcoin unless there is no other choice but to sell it.

        -      You are right in what you say, no one knows when they will sell their bitcoin holdings. Now, given what is happening in the market at the moment, I just think it is possible that the US might even buy bitcoin because the percentage that the price of bitcoin has dropped is still large.

And of course that is an opportunity for them because we are almost closed to the peak price of bitcoin, in my opinion only.
When it comes to selling then anyone do have have the rights into the coins that they've been holding into on which it will really be that still the same for us small time traders on doing such thing. We are all that wanting or liking to make profis and as so as with those governments or billionaires on which they would really be selling out their coins at the right time that they will be seeing that they had gained up sufficient profits then there's nothing we can do but we do able deal up with these possible drops in prices because we are all have that same goal on which to make profits and thats a normal approach to have. You are the ones will really be that making up decisions on your holdings , the things what do sucks is that whenever these big time holders to make sell then it can make out that impact.

I've been wondering if the US is ever gonna sell its btc but honestly i dont think anyone's got a solid answer. I feel like they'll hold off for now, why cash out when it's not the perfect moment? If I were them, I'd want to make the most money possible, just like any of us would. Lately, it seems more like they're piling up crypto instead of dumping it especially with how the market's been buzzing. If they do sell someday, I bet it'd shake up prices a bit, but I've seen the market bounce back from wild stuff before. I'm just trying to keep my eyes peeled and stay ready for whatever happens, feels like the smart move to me.

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Re: Hold or sell?
« Reply #574 on: March 13, 2025, 12:11:20 PM »
        -      You are right in what you say, no one knows when they will sell their bitcoin holdings. Now, given what is happening in the market at the moment, I just think it is possible that the US might even buy bitcoin because the percentage that the price of bitcoin has dropped is still large.

And of course that is an opportunity for them because we are almost closed to the peak price of bitcoin, in my opinion only.

BTC will prevail through 2025, and we will see it ourselves eventually.

Nothing wrong with using the current sale to our advantage  ;)

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Re: Hold or sell?
« Reply #575 on: March 13, 2025, 02:49:25 PM »
the US government is likely to hold bitcoin for the long term, because as a reserve fund they want greater profits. Bitcoin also maintains the value of our assets so that they are protected from inflation. The US government will decide to sell by discussing between officials in their government, it may be true by discussing in parliament for a large amount of money.
As recent statements, the US may accumulate 1M BTC in 5 years, then hold for 20 years. After 20 years, that number of BTC will become extremely valuable and we will consider it like gold 2.0. It is not certain that the US will sell all of that BTC, they may continue to hold to protect their financial position.

Now unfortunately positive news cannot bring trust to investors, they tend to sell to protect their accounts. I see the uptrend is right in front of us so I continue to hold until the end of this year.
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Re: Hold or sell?
« Reply #576 on: March 13, 2025, 10:50:48 PM »
When it comes to selling then anyone do have have the rights into the coins that they've been holding into on which it will really be that still the same for us small time traders on doing such thing. We are all that wanting or liking to make profis and as so as with those governments or billionaires on which they would really be selling out their coins at the right time that they will be seeing that they had gained up sufficient profits then there's nothing we can do but we do able deal up with these possible drops in prices because we are all have that same goal on which to make profits and thats a normal approach to have. You are the ones will really be that making up decisions on your holdings , the things what do sucks is that whenever these big time holders to make sell then it can make out that impact.
Anyone is allowed to exercise control over properties owned by an individual especially when it comes to decision making processes involving the disposal or retention of coins that the owner has collected. This applies not only to us as traders, but also to large investor with big capital to invest into businesses. If they decide to bring large amounts of stock into the market, the effect is going to be considerable and interfered cannot be avoided. Nevertheless, it lies in the hands of every person, and every person has his methods and approach to the price fluctuations. Such situation is familiar in trading and for anyone who operates in this arena it only means that you must be prepared to encounter change from time to time.

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Re: Hold or sell?
« Reply #577 on: March 13, 2025, 11:39:38 PM »
You are right in what you say, no one knows when they will sell their bitcoin holdings. Now, given what is happening in the market at the moment, I just think it is possible that the US might even buy bitcoin because the percentage that the price of bitcoin has dropped is still large.
Yes, there is no one who really knows when US will sell their Bitcoin. But they mustn't sell in the near future, they are just starting to buy now. I guess US will hold 4 years at least, but I think it can be above 10 years. However, it must depend on the change of Bitcoin conditions in the market. If Bitcoin looks better, US may try to hold longer. I think they must be very careful to decide their selling target because they won't take a too high risk.


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Re: Hold or sell?
« Reply #578 on: March 13, 2025, 11:50:26 PM »
Yes, there is no one who really knows when US will sell their Bitcoin. But they mustn't sell in the near future, they are just starting to buy now. I guess US will hold 4 years at least, but I think it can be above 10 years. However, it must depend on the change of Bitcoin conditions in the market. If Bitcoin looks better, US may try to hold longer. I think they must be very careful to decide their selling target because they won't take a too high risk.
Later, it will usually be unpredictable when there is information to sell it, because they will definitely move the asset to an exchange, right? But when they just speak, it will usually affect the price in the market. Indeed, we do not like this condition, but it always makes a big impact on the crypto market.

And we hope that the US can really have a big effect on crypto this year with various policies. because after all, this country has a strong enough influence to keep making crypto more than we expect.
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Re: Hold or sell?
« Reply #579 on: March 14, 2025, 04:16:29 AM »
And we hope that the US can really have a big effect on crypto this year with various policies. because after all, this country has a strong enough influence to keep making crypto more than we expect.

Since Trump was elected president, the U.S. has had a huge impact on the cryptocurrency market. While the community was euphoric at first, I think there is now fear and uncertainty due to the U.S.'s future plans.
Let's be honest: the way Trump signed the order to create the BTC reserve and what he said at the crypto summit is clearly not what crypto investors expected to hear.
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Re: Hold or sell?
« Reply #580 on: March 14, 2025, 08:56:53 AM »
You are right in what you say, no one knows when they will sell their bitcoin holdings. Now, given what is happening in the market at the moment, I just think it is possible that the US might even buy bitcoin because the percentage that the price of bitcoin has dropped is still large.
Yes, there is no one who really knows when US will sell their Bitcoin. But they mustn't sell in the near future, they are just starting to buy now. I guess US will hold 4 years at least, but I think it can be above 10 years. However, it must depend on the change of Bitcoin conditions in the market. If Bitcoin looks better, US may try to hold longer. I think they must be very careful to decide their selling target because they won't take a too high risk.

I do think their goal would be to be - the - biggest out there hodling their Bitcoins.

After all, it's all about prestige for them, that is - to be the first in that area.

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Re: Hold or sell?
« Reply #581 on: March 22, 2025, 11:26:09 AM »
(...)
Let's be honest: the way Trump signed the order to create the BTC reserve and what he said at the crypto summit is clearly not what crypto investors expected to hear.

That's true, but, as I said before, I'm positively surprised that he delivered on his promise at all. I don't know if he actually promised to fuel such reserve with a state purchase of bitcoins, if not, it's the people who seemed to have unrealistic expectations.

There are still some initiatives of crypto reserves within a few individual states. I haven't been following up on that, but I think all of them are in different stages of approval. When that happens, we might have some catalyst for another bull run. Right now, the market seems undecided on which way to go.

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Re: Hold or sell?
« Reply #582 on: March 22, 2025, 01:30:36 PM »
And we hope that the US can really have a big effect on crypto this year with various policies. because after all, this country has a strong enough influence to keep making crypto more than we expect.

Since Trump was elected president, the U.S. has had a huge impact on the cryptocurrency market. While the community was euphoric at first, I think there is now fear and uncertainty due to the U.S.'s future plans.
Let's be honest: the way Trump signed the order to create the BTC reserve and what he said at the crypto summit is clearly not what crypto investors expected to hear.
I understand that this creates a mix of emotions for the traders of the crypto market. Though earlier the world had a positive perception towards their chosen policies, there are questions whether the undertaking policies will have an impact on the overall ecosystem. The decision which is not easily comprehensible will definitely invites question marks on what direction will be followed in future. Many get the impression that the actions are not up to their confidence levels expected, and this causes much unpredictability. That is why there can be so many reactions from investors who are just trying to understand the long term trend.

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Re: Hold or sell?
« Reply #583 on: March 22, 2025, 03:07:44 PM »
the US government is likely to hold bitcoin for the long term, because as a reserve fund they want greater profits. Bitcoin also maintains the value of our assets so that they are protected from inflation. The US government will decide to sell by discussing between officials in their government, it may be true by discussing in parliament for a large amount of money.
As recent statements, the US may accumulate 1M BTC in 5 years, then hold for 20 years. After 20 years, that number of BTC will become extremely valuable and we will consider it like gold 2.0. It is not certain that the US will sell all of that BTC, they may continue to hold to protect their financial position.

Now unfortunately positive news cannot bring trust to investors, they tend to sell to protect their accounts. I see the uptrend is right in front of us so I continue to hold until the end of this year.

         -      1 million bitcoins? if I calculate it at 84000$ today it is equivalent to 84 billion dollars, that's a lot actually, but the US can do that. And if they ever do that,
it's probably after 20 years it will be possible to be 8.4 trillions of dollars or 84 trillions of dollars.

That's a lot of money and that's the good legacy that Trump will leave in the history of that US country. And it's also possible that all countries will have bitcoin reserves after 20 years I guess. Just an assumptions.

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Re: Hold or sell?
« Reply #584 on: March 22, 2025, 03:41:27 PM »
(...)
Let's be honest: the way Trump signed the order to create the BTC reserve and what he said at the crypto summit is clearly not what crypto investors expected to hear.

That's true, but, as I said before, I'm positively surprised that he delivered on his promise at all. I don't know if he actually promised to fuel such reserve with a state purchase of bitcoins, if not, it's the people who seemed to have unrealistic expectations.

There are still some initiatives of crypto reserves within a few individual states. I haven't been following up on that, but I think all of them are in different stages of approval. When that happens, we might have some catalyst for another bull run. Right now, the market seems undecided on which way to go.
In deciding to buy bitcoin for strategic reserve fund, a president like Trump also has to talk to the legislative council. This is what usually happens in my country, I don't know what it's like in the US.
but if the decision to buy bitcoin as strategic reserve fund is made, it is certain that the price of bitcoin will soar.

 

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