Whales and Manipulation....do you believe it?

[Rruchi man]

so do you believe that current market movements are no longer influenced by supply and demand, but rather by interference from other parties who want market movements? in the direction they want?

The fact that you do not believe in something will not make it less true.

The market is affected by everything, and whether you believe in whales or not, their manipulation based on influence on the market happens right in front of your eyes.

[alltalk]

The market is affected by everything, and whether you believe in whales or not, their manipulation based on influence on the market happens right in front of your eyes.

Yep. There are many factors that can bring impacts to crypto market.
Whales factor is real, we can deny this fact. When they move their huge number of Bitcoins from non-custodial wallets to CEX wallets, it should bring instant impacts to the market. Commonly, the price will decrease immediately because everyone feels afraid of the potential of big dumps. People are aware that huge numbers of Bitcoin will drop the price instantly if the whales have the intention to sell all of them to the market. It is the same as the issue of German government that wants to sell all their Bitcoin few days ago. We can see that, the price dropped quite significantly at that time.

[pieppiep]

so do you believe that current market movements are no longer influenced by supply and demand, but rather by interference from other parties who want market movements? in the direction they want?

The fact that you do not believe in something will not make it less true.

The market is affected by everything, and whether you believe in whales or not, their manipulation based on influence on the market happens right in front of your eyes.

That's right, the fact is that in the market cryptocurrency prices have price movements depending on the news circulating. If there is good news, the whales will take advantage of this opportunity to increase the price of coins on the exchange. Likewise, when there is bad news they will try to bring down the coin price on the exchange, causing many traders to panic. In this way it can be said that Cryptocurrency prices are now unhealthy because they are very easily controlled by whales who have a lot of money.

[Syedbesharat]

Market now have some good projects and the influencers manipulation isn't working like before because the adopters become smart and they now follow the trail of the transactions. But whales who are anonymous are still squeezing juice from crypto market . The influencers list if we make Eloon will be at the top but he isn't active any more in crypto space . But still his one tweet can stire up the crypto market .

[Doovla]

Yes, whales have a great influence on the changing state of prices in cryptocurrencies. And even they are the only ones who move the limits of value when it should be bought at a higher or lower price, to increase or decrease after 24 hours of analysis. I believe that sudden changes in values ​​can happen through manipulation.

[bitpr0]

I mean, ofcourse are they manipulating it within certain groups. Its easy allthough trackable.

[Jamal Aezaz]

Yes, whales have a great influence on the changing state of prices in cryptocurrencies. And even they are the only ones who move the limits of value when it should be bought at a higher or lower price, to increase or decrease after 24 hours of analysis. I believe that sudden changes in values ​​can happen through manipulation.

Whales must have some role in the changes of market value but some people do not agree with this fact. Most of the time you will have experience when the market starts to grow and investors become happy that they will see new ATH now the whales go and start to take profit and the market goes against the hopes of investors.

In many situations where there is smooth movement towards elevation whales take part and alter the situations so that situations are good for them but other investors are not always profitable. Whales manipulate the market because the amount of trade and investment are higher than common investors so they possess the power to cause manipulation.

[Gurujebs]

Yes, whales have a great influence on the changing state of prices in cryptocurrencies. And even they are the only ones who move the limits of value when it should be bought at a higher or lower price, to increase or decrease after 24 hours of analysis. I believe that sudden changes in values ​​can happen through manipulation.

Whales exist not only on the crypto group, they exist in other financial markets. I think anyone can form or become a whale as long as they control more of large percentage of a particular coins and usdt. You can control Bitcoin today if you have more than 20% worth of the market cap of Bitcoin and it's small thing to do when group of money makers emerge to form one.

They are also always ahead of everyone in the crypto space, in terms of news and update about a particular coin, they do have it at hand before anyone, this is why it's alwsys easy for them to move the market in their own favor.

[boysnoel12]

I believe there are whales but whales can't really manipulate the market 100% but they do have influence on the market so i would say that whales have influence on the market rather than manipulating the market.

[nakamura12]

Whales can manipulate the market if they influence the supply and demand. An example of a whale trying to manipulate the market is to buy more bitcoin if the demand is low or increasing the supply if it's low. I would also say that whales do have an impact on the market but I think it is only for a short time. The reason I think is because of other whales that doesn't want it to happen.

[milewilda]

Yes, whales have a great influence on the changing state of prices in cryptocurrencies. And even they are the only ones who move the limits of value when it should be bought at a higher or lower price, to increase or decrease after 24 hours of analysis. I believe that sudden changes in values ​​can happen through manipulation.

Whales exist not only on the crypto group, they exist in other financial markets. I think anyone can form or become a whale as long as they control more of large percentage of a particular coins and usdt. You can control Bitcoin today if you have more than 20% worth of the market cap of Bitcoin and it's small thing to do when group of money makers emerge to form one.

They are also always ahead of everyone in the crypto space, in terms of news and update about a particular coin, they do have it at hand before anyone, this is why it's alwsys easy for them to move the market in their own favor.

Yes, whales are  mostly neither be those billionaires,institution and other similar level on which they could really be that potentially be able to manipulate the market. Even before this crypto space existed on which manipulation is already that evident on which same as you said that even into those traditional makets like in Forex or Stocks on which these things could happen
but of course they would really be doing it on least obvious manner because there would really be that consequences on the time or moment that they would really be doing it
obviously. There would really be always those people who are sitting on the top on which they do have the capabiltiy on manipulating markets.

[BitMaxz]

Whales can't just manipulate a coin with a huge trading volume like Bitcoin they can maybe just manipulate it a bit but it's just a fluctuation.
As you can see on the chart those large spikes are caused by manipulation but whales don't have control over much of the market what they can do is only a bit of spikes to get other traders liquidated.

Unless, if we talking about other coins they can control some tokens/coins with low volume and use marketing or social media and news to promote these coins/tokens and let others know that these coins/tokens just suddenly reach new ATH and later sell their holdings. This is pretty common and the best strategy for whales.

[Smilez]

I believe this phenomenon is not unique to crypto; it also occurs in forex and other trading industries. In fact, it's a well-known reality that whales  have significant control over the market. This is not a new development, but rather a longstanding dynamic that has been observed across various trading sectors.

[Kemarit]

I believe this phenomenon is not unique to crypto; it also occurs in forex and other trading industries. In fact, it's a well-known reality that whales  have significant control over the market. This is not a new development, but rather a longstanding dynamic that has been observed across various trading sectors.

I do agree it's not unique in crypto market, however, here we really don't know that names of big whales except for those who are a public figure. And we only have addresses here, we might see it moving big money, but we don't have the names and we really don't know if they are whales, or a gambling platform, or a exchange, or a group of individuals.

And that's why we have long standing believed that whales are here and manipulating but we don't have the numbers on how they can change or how big their influence on the dynamics of the market.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

     -     Maybe that depends on a cryptocurrency held by a whale investors, because if it's like Bitcoin, Eth, and other top altcoins, they probably won't be able to drop the price of those in the market.

Believe me, if a crypto is pure hype and new, it can really manipulate the other crypto and it often happens with meme coins where the manipulators do the exiting and the result is rugpull.