TON Ecosystem

[Captain Corporate]

The real trouble with getting these type of hypes is that when people get in at the top and it crashes, they may lose it all. I have seen too many that did that with doge, got in at 70 cents or even 60 cents and they ended up losing all their savings, they had nothing left and begging Elon to talk further about doge so it would go back up. In the end, you can't really trust a hyped project to make you rich, or you can't just keep holding it for too long. You have to make sure that you are going to be in there for very quickly, or you have to realize that the money is gone and be fine with that.

[electronicash]

the basic reason they arrested durov why? did he break the rules when visiting other countries? or is there something else, I'm a little confused why people use dog pictures wearing head coverings, maybe I missed searching on X too I didn't find any further info

That is a sign of protest against the arrest of Durov. Wearing head covering means privacy and privacy is not a crime and that is main reason of this protest.

And to say about the Durov arrest he didn't break any rules to when visit that country or the country police arrest not on this cause. They made some allegations about him like the chi*ld P*rn, Terrorist communications helps etc . And maybe on these charge got arrested on france.

the guy is rich from the beginning and he is a good looking. i'm sure he could pickup girls along the way home i he wants to but ch*ld p*rn isn't what they linked him to. but they are saying he is a father of hundred kids.  terrorist communication i guess is because the telegram is used by countless criminals and groups i wouldn't be surprised if the cartels in Mexico is using the app.

but TON right now is just diving. i can see the memecoins i have in TON is becoming zilch. until there is nothing yet to come up and him not making a deal i guess he stays in France for a long time.

[yohananaomi]

It will stop eventually, the question is whether they will have things ready for it in their back pockets With the news of P. Durov being accused and imprisoned, there is an opportunity to grab some price-offs, though.

I see that because of the news of the arrest of telegram founder today the TONcoin dump more than 13%. I think this is a big disaster for toncoin and I think this is also natural happens because if we look back to the previous then we also seen that after arrested of binance CEO the BNB also fall from it's price.I hope everything will be normal soon. We see lot's of potential backer are supporting to the Telegram founder.

But I don't understand why the telegram founder is only arrested for that because the allegations are on him those are also on the Mark Zuckerberg?

the basic reason they arrested durov why? did he break the rules when visiting other countries? or is there something else, I'm a little confused why people use dog pictures wearing head coverings, maybe I missed searching on X too I didn't find any further info

Durov has two citizens of the country, namely Russia and France, if you see information circulating that it has been charged with violations related to the use of its application in a criminal manner. Of course, the one who knows the right problem is the authority that holds it and the crime in what form?
All of course, will be more clearly waiting for this problem, so as not to make telegrams become complicated we because of the error of the violation, especially if we know that at this time AirDrop is very much in the telegram, this can be the realm of business competition?

[Fivestar4everMVP]

the basic reason they arrested durov why? did he break the rules when visiting other countries? or is there something else, I'm a little confused why people use dog pictures wearing head coverings, maybe I missed searching on X too I didn't find any further info

That is a sign of protest against the arrest of Durov. Wearing head covering means privacy and privacy is not a crime and that is main reason of this protest.

And to say about the Durov arrest he didn't break any rules to when visit that country or the country police arrest not on this cause. They made some allegations about him like the chi*ld P*rn, Terrorist communications helps etc . And maybe on these charge got arrested on france.

the guy is rich from the beginning and he is a good looking. i'm sure he could pickup girls along the way home i he wants to but ch*ld p*rn isn't what they linked him to. but they are saying he is a father of hundred kids.  terrorist communication i guess is because the telegram is used by countless criminals and groups i wouldn't be surprised if the cartels in Mexico is using the app.

but TON right now is just diving. i can see the memecoins i have in TON is becoming zilch. until there is nothing yet to come up and him not making a deal i guess he stays in France for a long time.

He(Durov) wasn't directly linked to child pornography, but just like every other crimes that he was accussed of, they said he gave unrestricted access to those who are into child pornography through the app (telegram), and he did not give the government access to possibly monitor and arrest those who are into such.

Look, the long and short of the matter is that, none of those accusations are real to me, the government just want to spy on people activity on the app, which Durov have declined their request to it, and his arrest was nothing but a retaliation.

[yohananaomi]

the basic reason they arrested durov why? did he break the rules when visiting other countries? or is there something else, I'm a little confused why people use dog pictures wearing head coverings, maybe I missed searching on X too I didn't find any further info

That is a sign of protest against the arrest of Durov. Wearing head covering means privacy and privacy is not a crime and that is main reason of this protest.

And to say about the Durov arrest he didn't break any rules to when visit that country or the country police arrest not on this cause. They made some allegations about him like the chi*ld P*rn, Terrorist communications helps etc . And maybe on these charge got arrested on france.

the guy is rich from the beginning and he is a good looking. i'm sure he could pickup girls along the way home i he wants to but ch*ld p*rn isn't what they linked him to. but they are saying he is a father of hundred kids.  terrorist communication i guess is because the telegram is used by countless criminals and groups i wouldn't be surprised if the cartels in Mexico is using the app.

but TON right now is just diving. i can see the memecoins i have in TON is becoming zilch. until there is nothing yet to come up and him not making a deal i guess he stays in France for a long time.

He(Durov) wasn't directly linked to child pornography, but just like every other crimes that he was accussed of, they said he gave unrestricted access to those who are into child pornography through the app (telegram), and he did not give the government access to possibly monitor and arrest those who are into such.

Look, the long and short of the matter is that, none of those accusations are real to me, the government just want to spy on people activity on the app, which Durov have declined their request to it, and his arrest was nothing but a retaliation.

Polemics that are not easy to be proven clearly, but must be admitted that it does exist. So that there must be a fair court, so that everything can be opened clearly where the mistakes might be imposed on him.
It must be remembered with such a large membership in the telegram, as well as the increasing number of airdrops and games that can be accessed, of course it can make competitors tempted and is it impossible this can enter the realm of competition that occurs in renewable technology? Although there may be a rebuttal, but it is not impossible, but it is difficult to prove, it is as difficult for the proof of Durov.

[erus]

Yesterday I also saw the news that the CEO of Telegram, Pavel Durov, was arrested by the French police, this seems very strange because Telegram is currently hype with its unique multi-games such as Tap2Earn, but the CEO of Telegram was arrested by the police. But for now Telegram can still be accessed and there is no disruption at all in my place and we hope TON Ecosystem will not be affected by this Fud.

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Maybe with Telegram, maybe because they have a system that is already running well so that when one of the leaders has problems, it can still be controlled by the others. I also hope that the TON ecosystem will continue to run well and there should be no disruption as long as Telegram can still be accessed.

A very sophisticated and advanced system from this telegram that can be trusted by all members because when viewed in detail that this telegram system is more sophisticated than whatsapp or similar applications. So, the system that was developed also certainly has been backed up in detail and seriously by the Developer Team from Telegram, although Pavel Durov is captured but the proof is that now the telegram is still on and there is no disturbance.

[NotATether]

He(Durov) wasn't directly linked to child pornography, but just like every other crimes that he was accussed of, they said he gave unrestricted access to those who are into child pornography through the app (telegram), and he did not give the government access to possibly monitor and arrest those who are into such.

Look, the long and short of the matter is that, none of those accusations are real to me, the government just want to spy on people activity on the app, which Durov have declined their request to it, and his arrest was nothing but a retaliation.

Don't give the keys to the government? Look you're under arrest! And we can press whatever charges we want against you, since it's just his users! CP? Done. Terrorism? Done. Drugs? Done. Murder-for-hire? Done. Dissidents? Done.

See the problem here? The foreign governments can stick whatever charges they want against you if you're not insulated from your own users (who you don't even know).

[Stompix]

Don't give the keys to the government? Look you're under arrest! And we can press whatever charges we want against you, since it's just his users! CP? Done. Terrorism? Done. Drugs? Done. Murder-for-hire? Done. Dissidents? Done.
See the problem here? The foreign governments can stick whatever charges they want against you if you're not insulated from your own users (who you don't even know).

How about we drop the tinfoil hat?
Let's see:
- prosecutors bust a CP network, ask Telegram to ban more than 100 channels, Telegram does nothing
- prosecutors forward a notice to France ISPS to ban a list of channels, stupidly it ends with the t.me URL being filtered, and Telegram does nothing
- there is a warrant issued in the name of Durov for not responding  to a request, what does he do, not a care in the world

Seriously stop making it so much about privacy when it's damn clear Telegram has a **** problem with everything!
There was no problem with it and then suddenly out of the blue when things get thought Telegram weirdly remembers it has a moderator team and out of the blue it deletes 12 000 channels containing child porn! Lol!!!!!!

Stop making heroes out of guys who don't give a rat's ass about your privacy and only about their money!

For two years a change in which high school girls were abused and beaten stayed online, there were hundreds of articles about it, and Telegram magically closed in 24 hours after a proposal on banning their domain from the SK prosecutors, magically!

[gunhell16]

The real trouble with getting these type of hypes is that when people get in at the top and it crashes, they may lose it all. I have seen too many that did that with doge, got in at 70 cents or even 60 cents and they ended up losing all their savings, they had nothing left and begging Elon to talk further about doge so it would go back up. In the end, you can't really trust a hyped project to make you rich, or you can't just keep holding it for too long. You have to make sure that you are going to be in there for very quickly, or you have to realize that the money is gone and be fine with that.

That's the terrible problem, that when they enter this field thinking that the uptrend will continue, they don't know that the tape mining games that are really just garbage are increasing even more. I almost give up if I look at those tap games too much.

So I am pretty sure that most of them are just collecting money from the Airdrops community, so if you see someone asking you for an amount fee so that you can receive Airdrops rewards, stay away because, for sure, they are fraudsters and scammers. Remember that Notcoin and Dogs never ask for a large amount of fees for such things.

[NotATether]

- prosecutors bust a CP network, ask Telegram to ban more than 100 channels, Telegram does nothing
- prosecutors forward a notice to France ISPS to ban a list of channels, stupidly it ends with the t.me URL being filtered, and Telegram does nothing
- there is a warrant issued in the name of Durov for not responding  to a request, what does he do, not a care in the world

If that's the reason why he's under arrest then wouldn't it be easier for moderators to just delete the channel(s)?

There'd be no international blow-back either.

But it still doesn't take away from the fact that French government and I suppose other governments around the world would very much like to have these encryption keys to take out the members themselves, which would have a collateral effect on allowing them to spy on people who have nothing to do with CP.

I don't get how mods could accidentally avoid seeing the notice.

[Stompix]

If that's the reason why he's under arrest then wouldn't it be easier for moderators to just delete the channel(s)?

Would you use an app that deletes content?
Is anyone interested in mixing going to spend time on bitcointalk? 

I ran an image hosting back a decade ago because I offered it free of ads sudenely it was used on torrenting websites for previews, then came the DMCAs, and then because I didn't want to lose my gaming server also I enforced it, in just weeks after deleting a few hundred copyright images I lost 99% of the traffic !
So will be with telegram, ban CP, ban darknet, ban gore and assault channels, ban violence and you will be left with...whatsapp!

I don't get how mods could accidentally avoid seeing the notice.

They don't avoid accidentally, they are told to not enforce moderation.

We could do a little experiment and I could share a few channels here and you try to report them and see what's happening but now that all the eyes are on Telegram I think it would be better to stay out of it if still want to experiment do this yourself, just open tor and a few indexes on this and you can get in like 10 minutes a few recommendations.
For gore and other (mild, lol) things you don't even need to the darknet, just ask on Reddit for links!

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Don't give the keys to the government? Look you're under arrest! And we can press whatever charges we want against you, since it's just his users! CP? Done. Terrorism? Done. Drugs? Done. Murder-for-hire? Done. Dissidents? Done.
See the problem here? The foreign governments can stick whatever charges they want against you if you're not insulated from your own users (who you don't even know).

How about we drop the tinfoil hat?
Let's see:
- prosecutors bust a CP network, ask Telegram to ban more than 100 channels, Telegram does nothing
- prosecutors forward a notice to France ISPS to ban a list of channels, stupidly it ends with the t.me URL being filtered, and Telegram does nothing
- there is a warrant issued in the name of Durov for not responding  to a request, what does he do, not a care in the world

Seriously stop making it so much about privacy when it's damn clear Telegram has a **** problem with everything!
There was no problem with it and then suddenly out of the blue when things get thought Telegram weirdly remembers it has a moderator team and out of the blue it deletes 12 000 channels containing child porn! Lol!!!!!!

Stop making heroes out of guys who don't give a rat's ass about your privacy and only about their money!

For two years a change in which high school girls were abused and beaten stayed online, there were hundreds of articles about it, and Telegram magically closed in 24 hours after a proposal on banning their domain from the SK prosecutors, magically!

Well, let me say that you sure have some really good and valid points, and I am not going to argue or doubt what ever you have said since it's very possible, and I am only a telegram user on the surface, which means that there might be a lot of things happening in the deep background that several of us who are on the surface know nothing about.

But on the other hand, though like I did mentioned before, I do not doubt the possibility of all this things you have said, or the crimes labeled against Durov since no man is an angel, but then, the French government have not publicly proved any of this things that accused Durov of, the president of France only made a post addressing the public, trying to make everyone understand that Durov's arrest wasn't political in any way, but as a result of personal crimes which he (the president) can't go into details yet.

If true that Durov, through telegram did commit the crimes he's being accused of, or did this things you mentioned here, why don't the French government prove it publicly?.

[luckyledger]

If true that Durov, through telegram did commit the crimes he's being accused of, or did this things you mentioned here, why don't the French government prove it publicly?.

I wouldn't say that he did them themselves, rather, Telegram being accused --> Durov being accused for not complying Doing so is like accusing weapon manufacturers of mass murder and genocide, and so on.

[Metha Wulandarin]

TON (Toncoin) is the native cryptocurrency of The Open Network, a decentralized layer-1 blockchain that was originally developed by the encrypted messaging platform Telegram in 2018.
A coin that has caught the attention of the community a bit with its fast achievements and now the ecosystem of TON has started to run on telegram

All games in telegram almost all use the TON network starting from P2E and T2E but there are some that use Ethereum which will soon be TGE.
I've been looking for a board specifically discussing TONcoin but I didn't find it so I'm just posting here if I'm wrong please move it to the right place.

After I looked closely at the image you inserted, it turns out that TON has a lot of ecosystems and I am sure that TON will not be a dead blockchain and its ecosystem will definitely continue to rise. I also see that various software wallets such as Trustwallet have also been integrated with the TON Blockchain and this means that it is only a matter of time before the TON ecosystem explodes succes someday.

I like the way you see and assess projects, even though the main ecosystem of TONcoin, namely Telegram, is now having problems I hope TOncoin and Telegram will not be carried away by the atmosphere and still maintain the main purpose of Telegram which provides freedom to all its users, and even though the price of TOncoin is now experiencing a decline but the community of TONcoin remains strong and is increasingly eager to achieve financial freedom and freedom of speech.

Yesterday I also saw the news that the CEO of Telegram, Pavel Durov, was arrested by the French police, this seems very strange because Telegram is currently hype with its unique multi-games such as Tap2Earn, but the CEO of Telegram was arrested by the police. But for now Telegram can still be accessed and there is no disruption at all in my place and we hope TON Ecosystem will not be affected by this Fud.

I also hope that what happened to Durov will not affect the ecosystem of TONcoin, I also wonder why it has to happen now why not from the first arrest of Durov, when TON and the ecosystem have started to grow big like now there are causes to reduce the popularity of TONcoin.

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I also hope that what happened to Durov will not affect the ecosystem of TONcoin, I also wonder why it has to happen now why not from the first arrest of Durov, when TON and the ecosystem have started to grow big like now there are causes to reduce the popularity of TONcoin.

Good question I haven't thought about that the the allegation against the Durov was create long time ago before the good time of the ton network. I doubt that may be there can some big whale who are handling the whole situation of right now.
And another reason is they want to suppress the freedom of speech. As far as I know that the French police release him from their custody and took him to the court yesterday, I have get any good update right now but this news have done a positive effect on the ton market.