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Re: TON Ecosystem
« Reply #240 on: October 24, 2024, 11:22:52 AM »
I have seen  a lot of things in Durov's channel but I haven't followed them really at all.

Irrespective of the fact that Durov was arrested, TON chain has nothing to bother about. I was curious when after the arrest, TON chain was able to sustain itself and position doing better compared to the others which would just crash drastically to the least expected price.
Yeah, whether he's there or not. The TON ecosystem is going to work with its #DevelopmentTeam . He's the CEO of telegram and he plays a role there but if there's a dedicated team for it, there is nothing to worry about.

Yes you are right he is a different entity from the TON chain so whether he is there or not, the team will do their work to make sure the TON ecosystem keeps working to service the users. Although as the CEO and founder, he some how has a role to play but I think TON chain should do better even in the absence of Durov because the chain can not constantly depend on him to boost the product and price but rather the TON chain should be able to do that without him since there is a team for that.

I think Durov should start pulling himself out of the hype early enough so that it does not look like he is the one making the TON chain survive. Satoshi the founder of bitcoin did same and here bitcoin is waxing stronger and stronger over the years. Binance did that and the BNB chain is still doing much better. Durov should begin the process of detaching himself from the TON chain and allow it to evolve by itself so that the team can focus on building the chain ecosystem.
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Re: TON Ecosystem
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Re: TON Ecosystem
« Reply #241 on: October 24, 2024, 11:38:02 AM »
Yes you are right he is a different entity from the TON chain so whether he is there or not, the team will do their work to make sure the TON ecosystem keeps working to service the users. Although as the CEO and founder, he some how has a role to play but I think TON chain should do better even in the absence of Durov because the chain can not constantly depend on him to boost the product and price but rather the TON chain should be able to do that without him since there is a team for that.

I think Durov should start pulling himself out of the hype early enough so that it does not look like he is the one making the TON chain survive. Satoshi the founder of bitcoin did same and here bitcoin is waxing stronger and stronger over the years. Binance did that and the BNB chain is still doing much better. Durov should begin the process of detaching himself from the TON chain and allow it to evolve by itself so that the team can focus on building the chain ecosystem.
I agree that Pavel Durov as the head of TON is very important. However TON success should not rely only on him. Team should make sure TON continues to work well and grow even if Durov is not involved. Durov should slowly give up control letting team lead and come up with new ideas.This will help TON become independent and strong. Other successful projects like Bitcoin and Binance have shown that they can do well without their founders being constantly involved. If Durov steps back he can help TON last longer give team more power and focus on new projects. This will make TON strong and independent system.
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Re: TON Ecosystem
« Reply #242 on: October 24, 2024, 11:42:00 AM »
I have seen  a lot of things in Durov's channel but I haven't followed them really at all.

Irrespective of the fact that Durov was arrested, TON chain has nothing to bother about. I was curious when after the arrest, TON chain was able to sustain itself and position doing better compared to the others which would just crash drastically to the least expected price.
Yeah, whether he's there or not. The TON ecosystem is going to work with its #DevelopmentTeam . He's the CEO of telegram and he plays a role there but if there's a dedicated team for it, there is nothing to worry about.

Yes you are right he is a different entity from the TON chain so whether he is there or not, the team will do their work to make sure the TON ecosystem keeps working to service the users. Although as the CEO and founder, he some how has a role to play but I think TON chain should do better even in the absence of Durov because the chain can not constantly depend on him to boost the product and price but rather the TON chain should be able to do that without him since there is a team for that.

I think Durov should start pulling himself out of the hype early enough so that it does not look like he is the one making the TON chain survive. Satoshi the founder of bitcoin did same and here bitcoin is waxing stronger and stronger over the years. Binance did that and the BNB chain is still doing much better. Durov should begin the process of detaching himself from the TON chain and allow it to evolve by itself so that the team can focus on building the chain ecosystem.

If he wanted, he could do the same from the start, however, Durov - is - the face of Telegram and TON, for the better or worse.
So, only time will tell how much he will be associated with his own ecosystem.

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Re: TON Ecosystem
« Reply #243 on: October 24, 2024, 12:42:19 PM »
Yes you are right he is a different entity from the TON chain so whether he is there or not, the team will do their work to make sure the TON ecosystem keeps working to service the users. Although as the CEO and founder, he some how has a role to play but I think TON chain should do better even in the absence of Durov because the chain can not constantly depend on him to boost the product and price but rather the TON chain should be able to do that without him since there is a team for that.

I think Durov should start pulling himself out of the hype early enough so that it does not look like he is the one making the TON chain survive. Satoshi the founder of bitcoin did same and here bitcoin is waxing stronger and stronger over the years. Binance did that and the BNB chain is still doing much better. Durov should begin the process of detaching himself from the TON chain and allow it to evolve by itself so that the team can focus on building the chain ecosystem.
I agree that Pavel Durov as the head of TON is very important. However TON success should not rely only on him. Team should make sure TON continues to work well and grow even if Durov is not involved. Durov should slowly give up control letting team lead and come up with new ideas.This will help TON become independent and strong. Other successful projects like Bitcoin and Binance have shown that they can do well without their founders being constantly involved. If Durov steps back he can help TON last longer give team more power and focus on new projects. This will make TON strong and independent system.
Letting the team to lead would give them the ability to  further develop the capacity of the project likewise theirs as well without the interference of the CEO.  Durov as the founder can be giving ideas that would further strategically develop the project  to its full capacity as desired by him but not to be there as the head fully depended on to always do everything his ways. Allowing the project to be fully dependent on him is not wise and advisable what if in the situation where anything happens just like his arrest before, does it mean that the project would be on a standstill till he returns? I believe the response would be "NO" so its hi time the team is allowed to take control of further development of the TONchain project  without being dependent of him for development.
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Re: TON Ecosystem
« Reply #244 on: October 24, 2024, 12:58:49 PM »
Yes you are right he is a different entity from the TON chain so whether he is there or not, the team will do their work to make sure the TON ecosystem keeps working to service the users. Although as the CEO and founder, he some how has a role to play but I think TON chain should do better even in the absence of Durov because the chain can not constantly depend on him to boost the product and price but rather the TON chain should be able to do that without him since there is a team for that.

I think Durov should start pulling himself out of the hype early enough so that it does not look like he is the one making the TON chain survive. Satoshi the founder of bitcoin did same and here bitcoin is waxing stronger and stronger over the years. Binance did that and the BNB chain is still doing much better. Durov should begin the process of detaching himself from the TON chain and allow it to evolve by itself so that the team can focus on building the chain ecosystem.
I agree that Pavel Durov as the head of TON is very important. However TON success should not rely only on him. Team should make sure TON continues to work well and grow even if Durov is not involved. Durov should slowly give up control letting team lead and come up with new ideas.This will help TON become independent and strong. Other successful projects like Bitcoin and Binance have shown that they can do well without their founders being constantly involved. If Durov steps back he can help TON last longer give team more power and focus on new projects. This will make TON strong and independent system.
Letting the team to lead would give them the ability to  further develop the capacity of the project likewise theirs as well without the interference of the CEO.  Durov as the founder can be giving ideas that would further strategically develop the project  to its full capacity as desired by him but not to be there as the head fully depended on to always do everything his ways. Allowing the project to be fully dependent on him is not wise and advisable what if in the situation where anything happens just like his arrest before, does it mean that the project would be on a standstill till he returns? I believe the response would be "NO" so its hi time the team is allowed to take control of further development of the TONchain project  without being dependent of him for development.

Only if they would try it we would be able to judge it, but it sure does have its pros for going such a path.
Not looking at Durov all the time while they may do something with him (I am talking about govs and other entities like them) is pretty neat sounding.

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Re: TON Ecosystem
« Reply #245 on: October 25, 2024, 09:48:22 AM »

Letting the team to lead would give them the ability to  further develop the capacity of the project likewise theirs as well without the interference of the CEO.  Durov as the founder can be giving ideas that would further strategically develop the project  to its full capacity as desired by him but not to be there as the head fully depended on to always do everything his ways. Allowing the project to be fully dependent on him is not wise and advisable what if in the situation where anything happens just like his arrest before, does it mean that the project would be on a standstill till he returns? I believe the response would be "NO" so its hi time the team is allowed to take control of further development of the TONchain project  without being dependent of him for development.
Durov still gives ideas and thoughts to telegram and TON project, even though he can't be an executor anymore but at least durov's thoughts are still needed. and until today TON network is still fine, so I think TON still has a great team even though durov is in prison.
this is the same with CZ in binance, when CZ was in prison binance was still fine.
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Re: TON Ecosystem
« Reply #246 on: October 25, 2024, 08:12:21 PM »

Letting the team to lead would give them the ability to  further develop the capacity of the project likewise theirs as well without the interference of the CEO.  Durov as the founder can be giving ideas that would further strategically develop the project  to its full capacity as desired by him but not to be there as the head fully depended on to always do everything his ways. Allowing the project to be fully dependent on him is not wise and advisable what if in the situation where anything happens just like his arrest before, does it mean that the project would be on a standstill till he returns? I believe the response would be "NO" so its hi time the team is allowed to take control of further development of the TONchain project  without being dependent of him for development.
Durov still gives ideas and thoughts to telegram and TON project, even though he can't be an executor anymore but at least durov's thoughts are still needed. and until today TON network is still fine, so I think TON still has a great team even though durov is in prison.
this is the same with CZ in binance, when CZ was in prison binance was still fine.


As the founder and CEO of TONchain, Durov has every right to bring in his input and ideas to making sure the project succeeds. Not being the CEO would not stop him being the founder of the project but rather it would give others the opportunity to bring in their ideas to further develop the TONchain as the case may be. This should be done so that when ever he is not in good shape, it would not affect the project. Even though he is been held in custody as a result of telegram saga, it would not affect the ton chain as it did his initial arrest. I believe they could look into the binance and use it as a case study.
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Re: TON Ecosystem
« Reply #246 on: October 25, 2024, 08:12:21 PM »


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Re: TON Ecosystem
« Reply #247 on: October 25, 2024, 08:25:33 PM »
I think Durov should start pulling himself out of the hype early enough so that it does not look like he is the one making the TON chain survive. Satoshi the founder of bitcoin did same and here bitcoin is waxing stronger and stronger over the years. Binance did that and the BNB chain is still doing much better. Durov should begin the process of detaching himself from the TON chain and allow it to evolve by itself so that the team can focus on building the chain ecosystem.
TON is too early for this actions because I think it's still young and there are much more things needed to handle by the CEO, like you said Binance has existed for years and also Bitcoin has existed for years as well, though I know that Satoshi disappearance was too early but yet the development was kind of open stuff where other developer can make update on the network. If TON CEO pulls out from the project without the project at least spending 2-5 years there may be some lapses which might cost them fortune.

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Re: TON Ecosystem
« Reply #248 on: October 25, 2024, 10:20:44 PM »
Ton ecosystem have been found consistently not to deliver up to expectation and once the users identify this as a serious challenge, they may tend to make shift from having the opportunity of using it as before to try on other networks, the projects being launched also is a serious concern, in which when one have in mind to make profits in them but turned a disappointment in most cases.

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Re: TON Ecosystem
« Reply #249 on: October 25, 2024, 10:23:54 PM »
I think Durov should start pulling himself out of the hype early enough so that it does not look like he is the one making the TON chain survive. Satoshi the founder of bitcoin did same and here bitcoin is waxing stronger and stronger over the years. Binance did that and the BNB chain is still doing much better. Durov should begin the process of detaching himself from the TON chain and allow it to evolve by itself so that the team can focus on building the chain ecosystem.
TON is too early for this actions because I think it's still young and there are much more things needed to handle by the CEO, like you said Binance has existed for years and also Bitcoin has existed for years as well, though I know that Satoshi disappearance was too early but yet the development was kind of open stuff where other developer can make update on the network. If TON CEO pulls out from the project without the project at least spending 2-5 years there may be some lapses which might cost them fortune.

I was able to do a research on this and I found out that TON chain started its journey far back 2017 were it stated that;

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In 2017–2018, the Telegram Messenger team begins to explore blockchain solutions for themselves. Finding no current Layer 1 blockchain able to support Telegram's 9-figure userbase, they decide to design their own layer-1 chain, then called Telegram Open Network

Going by this, it means that TON chain has been on for a long time trying every means to fully develop their chain and finally breakthrough few years ago with TON payments.

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Launched on June 30, 2022, TON Payments can be used for instant off-chain value transfers between users, bots, and other services. Security measures embedded in the system ensure that these transfers are as secure as on-chain transactions.

So far, from the findings, I think TON has come a long way to this point that even if the CEO Durov pulls out, nothing would shake the project as they have  a good dedicated team who have been on this project for long before now. I think Durov could still be able to assist with ideas and input even if he is not the CEO and his absence or removal as the CEO would not shake the project.


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Re: TON Ecosystem
« Reply #250 on: October 26, 2024, 05:03:42 AM »
I think Durov should start pulling himself out of the hype early enough so that it does not look like he is the one making the TON chain survive. Satoshi the founder of bitcoin did same and here bitcoin is waxing stronger and stronger over the years. Binance did that and the BNB chain is still doing much better. Durov should begin the process of detaching himself from the TON chain and allow it to evolve by itself so that the team can focus on building the chain ecosystem.
TON is too early for this actions because I think it's still young and there are much more things needed to handle by the CEO, like you said Binance has existed for years and also Bitcoin has existed for years as well, though I know that Satoshi disappearance was too early but yet the development was kind of open stuff where other developer can make update on the network. If TON CEO pulls out from the project without the project at least spending 2-5 years there may be some lapses which might cost them fortune.

I was able to do a research on this and I found out that TON chain started its journey far back 2017 were it stated that;

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In 2017–2018, the Telegram Messenger team begins to explore blockchain solutions for themselves. Finding no current Layer 1 blockchain able to support Telegram's 9-figure userbase, they decide to design their own layer-1 chain, then called Telegram Open Network

Going by this, it means that TON chain has been on for a long time trying every means to fully develop their chain and finally breakthrough few years ago with TON payments.

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Launched on June 30, 2022, TON Payments can be used for instant off-chain value transfers between users, bots, and other services. Security measures embedded in the system ensure that these transfers are as secure as on-chain transactions.

So far, from the findings, I think TON has come a long way to this point that even if the CEO Durov pulls out, nothing would shake the project as they have  a good dedicated team who have been on this project for long before now. I think Durov could still be able to assist with ideas and input even if he is not the CEO and his absence or removal as the CEO would not shake the project.


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Never knew the platform has been active and has started it's journey for long now, well it's good that they have been on crypto space for couples of years now.
Maybe as you said even though the CEO enumerate what Satoshi did I believe they have that solidity and bedrock for the projects to stand without any failures.

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Re: TON Ecosystem
« Reply #251 on: October 26, 2024, 10:28:42 AM »
Yes, TON must maintain its position in the rank of 10, I mean not exceeding the rank of 10 it can attract the attention of many people and also investment, if TON can maintain its price until the end of the year it is very good because it is not easy to maintain prices in conditions like now.

The position depend on what the French governmentater says About Durov detention in their custody and they wouldn't free him now till March of next year which is 2025 but I think the damage has been done already. What Ton price might do now is perhaps go up further if there is something good about the CEO of Telegram.

If I have small money to spare till then, I will buy some because there is no way he will remain with French government. The worst they can do is to fine him and sure the company is going to pay so they can get him out of that custody.
I don't really understand what the main problem is, maybe it's a misunderstanding between them, I just wish them both the best.
Because Durov has an important role for the future of TONcoin but I am a little surprised Durov has problems like this after many people are interested in TONcoin.


I think the problem there is that the French government wants to make sure they have telegram at their finger tips through the founder hence they arrested him. Another thought that came over me is that the government just want to make sure they have it all alone and no other government should put interest there as they have already made it  first to get at the telegram boss and making him reach an agreement yet to be disclosed if I am not mistaken.

Irrespective of the fact that Durov was arrested, TON chain has nothing to bother about. I was curious when after the arrest, TON chain was able to sustain itself and position doing better compared to the others which would just crash drastically to the least expected price.
That is a plus for TONcoin when Durov is in trouble TONcoin can still keep the price stable, hopefully such an incident will not happen again because Telegram and TONcoin have a very close relationship if Telegram is closed there is a high probability that TONcoin will also close.

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Re: TON Ecosystem
« Reply #252 on: October 26, 2024, 03:38:23 PM »

That is a plus for TONcoin when Durov is in trouble TONcoin can still keep the price stable, hopefully such an incident will not happen again because Telegram and TONcoin have a very close relationship if Telegram is closed there is a high probability that TONcoin will also close.
when durov was arrested TON coin experienced a price drop but only for a while and then the price of TON went up again, so I see investor enthusiasm is still high and not so affected by durov's arrest.
telegram and TON coin are quite closely related, but does TON depend on telegram forever? This is what we must observe from the development of TON in the future.

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Re: TON Ecosystem
« Reply #253 on: October 28, 2024, 09:53:32 PM »
I think Durov should start pulling himself out of the hype early enough so that it does not look like he is the one making the TON chain survive. Satoshi the founder of bitcoin did same and here bitcoin is waxing stronger and stronger over the years. Binance did that and the BNB chain is still doing much better. Durov should begin the process of detaching himself from the TON chain and allow it to evolve by itself so that the team can focus on building the chain ecosystem.
TON is too early for this actions because I think it's still young and there are much more things needed to handle by the CEO, like you said Binance has existed for years and also Bitcoin has existed for years as well, though I know that Satoshi disappearance was too early but yet the development was kind of open stuff where other developer can make update on the network. If TON CEO pulls out from the project without the project at least spending 2-5 years there may be some lapses which might cost them fortune.

I was able to do a research on this and I found out that TON chain started its journey far back 2017 were it stated that;

Quote
In 2017–2018, the Telegram Messenger team begins to explore blockchain solutions for themselves. Finding no current Layer 1 blockchain able to support Telegram's 9-figure userbase, they decide to design their own layer-1 chain, then called Telegram Open Network

Going by this, it means that TON chain has been on for a long time trying every means to fully develop their chain and finally breakthrough few years ago with TON payments.

Quote
Launched on June 30, 2022, TON Payments can be used for instant off-chain value transfers between users, bots, and other services. Security measures embedded in the system ensure that these transfers are as secure as on-chain transactions.

So far, from the findings, I think TON has come a long way to this point that even if the CEO Durov pulls out, nothing would shake the project as they have  a good dedicated team who have been on this project for long before now. I think Durov could still be able to assist with ideas and input even if he is not the CEO and his absence or removal as the CEO would not shake the project.


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Never knew the platform has been active and has started it's journey for long now, well it's good that they have been on crypto space for couples of years now.
Maybe as you said even though the CEO enumerate what Satoshi did I believe they have that solidity and bedrock for the projects to stand without any failures.

They've been existing long before now and have so much garnered momentum that it would be very difficult for the project to fail and so far the project have passed so many stages up to this point they are currently. The CEO and team have really worked their way through making sure that TON sees the light of the day and it is nice that TON is amongst the top 10 project on coinmarketcap listing and is really doing great to say.

I believe even if Durov leaves nothing would shake it but the earlier he does make an adjustment from the leadership of the project the better because we do not know what the French government might do again and we do not want it to have a side effect again on the project so it is better he does the needful now and take a bow while another person takes over and Durov can be of great help in making suggestions bringing in his ideas to add up to the building and further development of the project.
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Re: TON Ecosystem
« Reply #254 on: October 31, 2024, 01:35:20 AM »

It is indeed a bit strange what happened, but let it all be resolved by him, but that will not make Telegram recede and there will be a replacement who can also run Telegram well, so that the Ton network itself is not disturbed by this.
So far, the Ton network has been used very massively on mini Telegram and, of course, will make a very large contribution to the existence of Ton, and it is not impossible that Ton will reach its peak when Bitcoin increases later.
if I see TON is a good and popular network right now, with many telegram minigames, many airdrop participants using it. TON network will compete with solanan and ethereum in the future, this has been predicted by many observers, that's why I choose to invest in solanan and TON.

f I see TON is a good and popular network right now, with many telegram minigames, many airdrop participants using it. TON network will compete with solanan and ethereum in the future, this has been predicted by many observers, that's why I choose to invest in solanan and TON.
There are advantages to the many mini-telegrams, so that the ton network is often used for every transaction and this will strengthen existing trade, so that, inevitably, it also has an impact on the ton coin.
I think it is natural that the, ton, network will start to be glanced at and used one day just like the existing and well-known networks, as long as it must be maintained that the, fee, costs can be suppressed and not, like other networks, that are quite expensive, because the competition for network use greatly affects the, coins it supports, for that reason the smallest possible thing can be avoided so that the ton coin can develop quickly.

 

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