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Who will win?

Donald Trump
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Kamala Harris
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« on: July 21, 2024, 08:39:22 PM »
I remember that there was a topic about this here, but I tried and couldn't find it, maybe I remember the other website and not this one. In the end, this is going to be one of the most wagered thing in the world, and I wanted to have a topic here as well.

Today, Biden has announced that he will not be going for reelection, I personally do not remember the last time when we had two candidates surely, the elections in November so in last like 3 months or so, one of the candidates steps back. I am sure it has happened many times in history before, just not in the recent years as far as I can remember.

While I do agree that Biden not being a candidate is good, because he is too old and people will not be willing to vote for him. I also think that whoever goes against Trump, and an assassination attempted one, will be just going against him to lose. There isn't a single name that comes to mind that can beat Trump, Obama could have, easily, but he can't be nominated. I do not think that dems have any name that can turn this, its as good as over in my mind.

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2024, 09:51:53 PM »

even if Biden endorse Harris, she isn't going to win either. the liberals have made it sure years ago that Harris will not stand out and not win in case she runs as president.  now they desperately needed a candidate and couldn't find one.

why not Hillary by the way, she seem to have been trying many times in the past, and now that they need someone that can actually make more votes than Harris, she should be an option.  or is it unconstitutional to not appoint Harris because she is the vice right?

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2024, 10:58:50 PM »

even if Biden endorse Harris, she isn't going to win either. the liberals have made it sure years ago that Harris will not stand out and not win in case she runs as president.  now they desperately needed a candidate and couldn't find one.

why not Hillary by the way, she seem to have been trying many times in the past, and now that they need someone that can actually make more votes than Harris, she should be an option.  or is it unconstitutional to not appoint Harris because she is the vice right?
I don't know why the Democrats are too quick to announce Harris as a better replacement for Biden. Never will Harris be a match for Trump. Trump has already stated that the weak Biden is a strong candidate when compared with Harris. You can imagine, that no way for Harris in the November election.

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2024, 11:04:35 PM »
The mistake comes from the understanding that Harris is a "good choice by dems" thinking. Nobody believes that, well not a lot of people at least. The idea is this; there is very limited time left, Biden "can't" be a president anymore, his health doesn't allow him, which makes you or I or anyone a better suited president, because we at least have our cognitive health. Wheras, Harris may not be "liked", she at least can speak clearly, literally the minimum requirement. So that makes her a better candidate from Biden already, not because she is "better", but because Biden is literally incapable. Secondly, if we were to talk about why not someone else? Well Harris already put her hat in the ring, whereas others are seeing this as a loss cause, which means that, if they try to be a candidate, or even become one, they will most likely lose. So why not pick someone like Harris, who everyone expects to lose, on an unwinnable election? So that you can pick someone better, like Whitmar, or Newsom, on an election that they may win?

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2024, 11:20:10 PM »

People know Harris is part of the administration that made this year worse in history. The dems are already about to go down and people sees the economic crisis to be admins fault. Whosoever they endorse is make no difference, it will jist be a wrong time for her/him to be on that spot.

Just let Trump win and inherit the tragic result of what Biden did. Maybe they can win the next election.

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2024, 11:33:00 PM »
The most likely Democrat nominee will be Kamala Harris, and I don't think she has any organic support, i.e. people rallying for what she stands for. Her only support will be negative Trump voters, but that might not be enough.
Democrats would have to come up with some sort of believable breaking news about Trump being an existential threat to democracy and USA to scare enough people and mobilise them to show up and vote against him. But they overplayed their hand already and with the recent assassination attempt, any attacks on him would make the Democrats look like the bad guys.
That being said, I've no idea how fraud-proof the US voting system is. We've heard reports of people receiving multiple postal vote forms, about dead people casting votes etc. If it's easy to abuse, anything is possible.

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2024, 09:58:13 PM »

even if Biden endorse Harris, she isn't going to win either. the liberals have made it sure years ago that Harris will not stand out and not win in case she runs as president.  now they desperately needed a candidate and couldn't find one.

why not Hillary by the way, she seem to have been trying many times in the past, and now that they need someone that can actually make more votes than Harris, she should be an option.  or is it unconstitutional to not appoint Harris because she is the vice right?
I don't know why the Democrats are too quick to announce Harris as a better replacement for Biden. Never will Harris be a match for Trump. Trump has already stated that the weak Biden is a strong candidate when compared with Harris. You can imagine, that no way for Harris in the November election.

it could be because they don't really have plans to win. after all its the worse time to become a leader when people are becoming more unsatisfied and almost about to run out of patience about what the government is doing.

whoever Harris will chose is probably not willingly trying to win as well. they all probably just looking away by now and just let Harris be alone unless they are happy to inherit the damage that the previous government has done.

around the world, they already acknowledge Trump as the president. just let the man be the president since he wants to and see what he could do.

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2024, 10:28:46 PM »

even if Biden endorse Harris, she isn't going to win either. the liberals have made it sure years ago that Harris will not stand out and not win in case she runs as president.  now they desperately needed a candidate and couldn't find one.

why not Hillary by the way, she seem to have been trying many times in the past, and now that they need someone that can actually make more votes than Harris, she should be an option.  or is it unconstitutional to not appoint Harris because she is the vice right?
I don't know why the Democrats are too quick to announce Harris as a better replacement for Biden. Never will Harris be a match for Trump. Trump has already stated that the weak Biden is a strong candidate when compared with Harris. You can imagine, that no way for Harris in the November election.
I agree with Trump that Biden was the best match for him but now that Biden old age is affecting him mentally, I think that the Democrat have failed the presidential election to the Republicans. This is because Trump have more people in his side and they are not willing to leave him for Harris. She might be their best option but not the best option when Trum is the race.

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2024, 11:06:29 PM »

even if Biden endorse Harris, she isn't going to win either. the liberals have made it sure years ago that Harris will not stand out and not win in case she runs as president.  now they desperately needed a candidate and couldn't find one.

why not Hillary by the way, she seem to have been trying many times in the past, and now that they need someone that can actually make more votes than Harris, she should be an option.  or is it unconstitutional to not appoint Harris because she is the vice right?
I don't know why the Democrats are too quick to announce Harris as a better replacement for Biden. Never will Harris be a match for Trump. Trump has already stated that the weak Biden is a strong candidate when compared with Harris. You can imagine, that no way for Harris in the November election.
I agree with Trump that Biden was the best match for him but now that Biden old age is affecting him mentally, I think that the Democrat have failed the presidential election to the Republicans. This is because Trump have more people in his side and they are not willing to leave him for Harris. She might be their best option but not the best option when Trum is the race.

I have not been very heavy on political discussion, but I have been monitoring the USA 2024 Presidential Elections odds movement for quite a while now even with Bidden in power, when the odds were out and Trump was declared an apparently valid contestant, Trump have been the slight favorite according to the sportsbook I do make use of, and that was surprising to me given they amount of controversy that have been surrounding Trump including a raid by security agent in his home, and then his child and himself having a case in court, I expected those factor to be highly detrimental to his chances, but never seemed to be.
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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2024, 11:20:48 PM »
I think bookies no longer see Trump as strong of a favourite as he was some time ago. The payout rate for his win increased from something like x1.45 (quoting from memory) to the current x1.53.
According to the oddsmakers, he's still more likely to win, but they seem to be thinking that literally anyone would give him a better fight than Biden.

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2024, 11:42:32 PM »
i just checked the Stake odd and Kamala Harris actually drawing closer to the race.


even if Biden endorse Harris, she isn't going to win either. the liberals have made it sure years ago that Harris will not stand out and not win in case she runs as president.  now they desperately needed a candidate and couldn't find one.

why not Hillary by the way, she seem to have been trying many times in the past, and now that they need someone that can actually make more votes than Harris, she should be an option.  or is it unconstitutional to not appoint Harris because she is the vice right?
I don't know why the Democrats are too quick to announce Harris as a better replacement for Biden. Never will Harris be a match for Trump. Trump has already stated that the weak Biden is a strong candidate when compared with Harris. You can imagine, that no way for Harris in the November election.
I agree with Trump that Biden was the best match for him but now that Biden old age is affecting him mentally, I think that the Democrat have failed the presidential election to the Republicans. This is because Trump have more people in his side and they are not willing to leave him for Harris. She might be their best option but not the best option when Trum is the race.

I have not been very heavy on political discussion, but I have been monitoring the USA 2024 Presidential Elections odds movement for quite a while now even with Bidden in power, when the odds were out and Trump was declared an apparently valid contestant, Trump have been the slight favorite according to the sportsbook I do make use of, and that was surprising to me given they amount of controversy that have been surrounding Trump including a raid by security agent in his home, and then his child and himself having a case in court, I expected those factor to be highly detrimental to his chances, but never seemed to be.

some of his case are actually dismissed by the federal judge especially that classified docs. the presidential election been followed all over the world since what goes on in US affects the politics  in the national level in other countries and mine is just one.

the local news is even flashing what is happening in the US election including what Joe did such as quitting the race and giving it to Harris. now it looks like he isn't the president anymore and rumor is that Joe is dead.


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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2024, 05:26:16 AM »
This is only about hope in the minimal idea of ​​winning, which did not exist with Biden, after all the trouble he got into because of his advanced age.

So, this last minute change means a new approach to the campaign, that allows us to glimpse the electoral future, not only to the fact of electing a president but also to other political positions.

By the way, Kamala managed to raise more than 60 million dollars in just 24 hours, that had not happened before.

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2024, 01:39:20 PM »
I am sure odds on Trump is going to get lower as election day comes closer, but they can always select someone else to be a president.
When I look at all the candidates they are all a joke and actors, dont forget that Trump has a carrier in acting and WWE.
It is all just one big movie show






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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2024, 03:03:05 PM »
This is only about hope in the minimal idea of ​​winning, which did not exist with Biden, after all the trouble he got into because of his advanced age.

So, this last minute change means a new approach to the campaign, that allows us to glimpse the electoral future, not only to the fact of electing a president but also to other political positions.

By the way, Kamala managed to raise more than 60 million dollars in just 24 hours, that had not happened before.

Not sure if she has want it takes to overcome Trump right now as she is still behind and underdog in the betting. But we really can't understand this politics though, maybe today Trump is leading, just like when Hillary as well during this time against Trump. But in the last days, Trump was able to swing everything in this favor and it was a shock that Hillary lost and she could have made history.

But then again, with Kamala, it will be history again and Donald Trump is the one going to stop that? We will see because if the election happens today, then surely he will get the nod and will be re-elected.
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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2024, 03:42:44 PM »
While I do agree that Biden not being a candidate is good, because he is too old and people will not be willing to vote for him. I also think that whoever goes against Trump, and an assassination attempted one, will be just going against him to lose. There isn't a single name that comes to mind that can beat Trump, Obama could have, easily, but he can't be nominated. I do not think that dems have any name that can turn this, its as good as over in my mind.

If I'm to bet between any candidates since Biden will not be running for the new election, I will go with Trump 100% because he seems to be on the lead even by mere looking at what has happened in the last few days, he seems to be everywhere and even people that hated him back in the days for his mischievous comments has love him because of that assassination attempt.

However, if I have the opportunity to pick between Trump and perhaps Biden, I would t choose any of them, they have nothing to offer American than the usual lies and deceit of people, the system is just monopoly of democracy between two parties.
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