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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #75 on: August 02, 2024, 10:10:50 AM »
The black card ship has long sailed in my opinion ;D It's already been (over)used by Obama before but, now, there are some people of color and with influence that's favoring Trump. One of which is Candace Owens and I heard in one of her interviews that Obama may be black but he never really did anything to help the black community during his terms.

Even if Trump fails to sway the black vote, I don't think Kamala has what it takes to get them mobilised and show up to vote for her.
She lacks charisma, is fake in her behaviour and comes across as disingenuous, e.g. by claiming to be native Indian then switching to being black etc.
The only card the Democrats have to play is to make people scared of DT, but that's way harder now, given he already was a president and nothing bad has happened.

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #75 on: August 02, 2024, 10:10:50 AM »

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #76 on: August 02, 2024, 03:41:06 PM »
..Here Trump clearly has a great advantage, an advantage that puts Trump on his side, the Bitcoin community is large, it is no small thing, and just by saying that he Supports Bitcoin he has won a lot, and Trump is clear about that, he is Undoubtedly a very intelligent Person , who has everything in his favor to use it.
very good, exactly, thats what I meant too.  He certainly has a thousand defects and perhaps even more, but he is certainly not stupid and he has understood how to exploit this to his advantage, if then his advantage also becomes ours by avoiding absurd laws such as that of self-custody , better no?
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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #76 on: August 02, 2024, 03:41:06 PM »

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #77 on: August 02, 2024, 04:02:03 PM »
Trump has attracted the attention of Bitcoiners who are in the community as he expressed his positive attitude towards Bitcoin before the election and he is sure to have the support of all of them. Not only that, there are many bitcoiners who support Kamala Harris, now they will support Donald Trump. As a bitcoin enthusiast Trump has shown decent knowledge and prudence.

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #78 on: August 02, 2024, 04:04:17 PM »
She lacks charisma, is fake in her behaviour and comes across as disingenuous, e.g. by claiming to be native Indian then switching to being black etc.

Bruh seriously?
She has Indian and Jamaican parents, haven't you heard of mixed race before?
And she never claimed to be a native Indian,  she is Indian American.

and Trump is clear about that, he is Undoubtedly a very intelligent Person ,

Trump and intelligence....
The guy that said the human body has finite energy and exercising is depleting your life span?

first of all just luckily he didn't kill him, caught him by the ear (if you haven't forgotten) secondly you don't necessarily have to hire a killer
you can also influence a predisposed and highly unstable person to do certain things

So you're splitting your theory into two, he was a trained killer but he could also have been something else...who could have missed and basically gave him even more votes and sealed the election?
Because no Democrat alive would remember how Reagan went to 80% approval after getting shot and how he won by a landslide the next election.

That's the problem with conspiracy theories, they have no proof, no logic, and at the end they end up contradicting each other.
Now, what if the guy was actually paid by Trump to do the same as it did for Reagan? See how this goes?  :D


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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #79 on: August 02, 2024, 04:14:24 PM »
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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #80 on: August 03, 2024, 12:57:06 AM »
Trump and intelligence....
The guy that said the human body has finite energy and exercising is depleting your life span?


Lol, I really didn't know he had said something like that, I don't know, maybe he doesn't have that much wisdom in some things, but I do respect someone who has written books on financial education, because the advice he gives with Robert Kiyosaki in the book: "We Want You to Be Rich", is excellent, and I like that he doesn't have a merely political thought nor is his training political but focused on Business Management, above all his way of thinking is very positive and in his mind Failure does not Exist.



In politics, everyone has a different way of thinking, that is why there are many problems, no one can think as the other wants or make them think as they want, in my case I give a perspective of what can be seen on TV, social networks and what is shown more, I am not an American citizen who lives day to day and can establish a better and clearer opinion, but, what is it that suits an American so that his life improves? better in the economic sense and in terms of quality of life? What can each candidate contribute? I consider that that is what they have to think about, because politics will always be lies and more lies, but another thing is the candidate who offers much more progress.

I wonder what would happen if Mr. Beast could be a presidential candidate?? Would he pass above these two?

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #81 on: August 05, 2024, 08:19:52 PM »
Trump and intelligence....
The guy that said the human body has finite energy and exercising is depleting your life span?


Lol, I really didn't know he had said something like that, I don't know, maybe he doesn't have that much wisdom in some things, but I do respect someone who has written books on financial education, because the advice he gives with Robert Kiyosaki in the book: "We Want You to Be Rich", is excellent, and I like that he doesn't have a merely political thought nor is his training political but focused on Business Management, above all his way of thinking is very positive and in his mind Failure does not Exist.



In politics, everyone has a different way of thinking, that is why there are many problems, no one can think as the other wants or make them think as they want, in my case I give a perspective of what can be seen on TV, social networks and what is shown more, I am not an American citizen who lives day to day and can establish a better and clearer opinion, but, what is it that suits an American so that his life improves? better in the economic sense and in terms of quality of life? What can each candidate contribute? I consider that that is what they have to think about, because politics will always be lies and more lies, but another thing is the candidate who offers much more progress.

I wonder what would happen if Mr. Beast could be a presidential candidate?? Would he pass above these two?

Mr. Beast will still not be able to stop tragedy. it no matter who sits in the office since it looks like chaos whoever is up there. Joe just continue what Trump started. if Trump comes back to the office he will just continue what Biden is doing as well.  i'm not from US as well but this stuff is happening in my country countless times. 

but anyone today can see Trump is winning the polls. since the odds is already around 1.50, it may not be worth it to bet when you just wager small amount. but adding Trump to a parlay might be an option for you to win bigger.


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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #81 on: August 05, 2024, 08:19:52 PM »


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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #82 on: August 05, 2024, 09:15:50 PM »
Trump has attracted the attention of Bitcoiners who are in the community as he expressed his positive attitude towards Bitcoin before the election and he is sure to have the support of all of them. Not only that, there are many bitcoiners who support Kamala Harris, now they will support Donald Trump. As a bitcoin enthusiast Trump has shown decent knowledge and prudence.

I haven't experienced American election been heated like this before but I have a fear about this Bitcoiners and political movement of Trump. What if Trump is giving the support he needed and then he made it to the white house and refused to give proper attention to the Bitcoiners? As longs as politicians are concerned with selfish interest, it's possible.

I want us to also know that Trump is a movement and most of the promises we are seeing are prepared by his campaign crew, what if he says some of those promises that are made apart from what he promised in the Bitcoin conference aren't his but because they needed votes, they sugar coats some of the promises?
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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #83 on: August 06, 2024, 12:03:08 AM »
I mean you can check here, which shows about %86 of votes to Trump here, and then you can check the reality, which shows polls and more importantly odds (these casinos lose money if they are wrong so I trust them more than polls), and see that its close, like %52 trump and %48 kamala type situation. That means, Trump did manage to get all the bitcoiners, %90 of the market here is a Trump supporter or at least thinks Trump will win. Thats something, sure the number of bitcoin people in the USA who will go out to vote and vote Trump did not change THIS much, but it definitely did not hurt, its helpful to get as many groups as you can.

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #84 on: August 06, 2024, 05:56:55 PM »
That means, Trump did manage to get all the bitcoiners, %90 of the market here is a Trump supporter or at least thinks Trump will win. Thats something, sure the number of bitcoin people in the USA who will go out to vote and vote Trump did not change THIS much, but it definitely did not hurt, its helpful to get as many groups as you can.

The thing is that the source for this is extremely biased, if you go to other sources like reddit crypto subs you will see that it's actually the opposite, bitcoiners calling Trump for a fake and a liar and not trusting a bit of what he says.

Don't forget that crypto owners in the US, the ones that vote have been dealing with a crypto tax on trading Trump put in place, so it's quite hard to go vote for the guy that made you pay more just because he promises you the heaven right now.
Also, odds are moving, Trump is 1.73 from being close to 1.33, new polls suggest he will be losing at least two swing states he was leading and the effect of the VP pick is not even factored, there is panic in the republican camps and for now he's out of ammo.

And promises he will pay the debt with a crypto check won't get him votes.

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #85 on: August 06, 2024, 06:06:31 PM »
I mean you can check here, which shows about %86 of votes to Trump here, and then you can check the reality, which shows polls and more importantly odds (these casinos lose money if they are wrong so I trust them more than polls), and see that its close, like %52 trump and %48 kamala type situation. That means, Trump did manage to get all the bitcoiners, %90 of the market here is a Trump supporter or at least thinks Trump will win. Thats something, sure the number of bitcoin people in the USA who will go out to vote and vote Trump did not change THIS much, but it definitely did not hurt, its helpful to get as many groups as you can.

I don't believe in this poll voting. The result and people that voted are mostly people that supported him for supporting Bitcoin and speaking good of Bitcoin in the Bitcoin conference. In reality, the media has shrink Trump and he is not getting much attention of the celebrities, they are rightly staying behind Kamala especially the female influencers and artist that has power to influence their followers politically.

I think there is time before one can conclude what is going to happen in the forthcoming election of the US. It is going to be historical if Kamala beat Trump but if the other way happens, Trump will shake US once again and I hope he changes for good this time.
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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #86 on: August 06, 2024, 11:10:16 PM »
~ and more importantly odds (these casinos lose money if they are wrong so I trust them more than polls)
To be fair, last 2020 election for the POTUS, it was Trump who was the favorite. Prior to that, I think he was the underdorg.

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In reality, the media has shrink Trump and he is not getting much attention of the celebrities, they are rightly staying behind Kamala especially the female influencers and artist that has power to influence their followers politically.
I think the power of celebrity endorsements doesn't have the same pull as before. The age of social media somehow decreased mainstream media influence. The battle now is who these social media owners will support. Facebook and Instagram will more likely block a lot of accounts supporting Trump while X (Twitter) will remain more neutral.

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #87 on: August 07, 2024, 12:52:25 AM »
The thing is that the source for this is extremely biased, if you go to other sources like reddit crypto subs you will see that it's actually the opposite, bitcoiners calling Trump for a fake and a liar and not trusting a bit of what he says.
we don’t know how many of those people in reddit are actual american citizens who can vote i am not from america and even if i tell you that trump is just taking advantage of bitcoin and bitcoiners it wouldn’t matter in the end because i can’t vote anyway
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new polls suggest he will be losing at least two swing states he was leading and the effect of the VP pick is not even factored, there is panic in the republican camps and for now he's out of ammo.
he definitely found a challenge in harris so i am curious what other gimmicks can he pull from his pocket the debate next month should be interesting and very telling of their characters but not their chances to win

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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #88 on: August 07, 2024, 11:34:00 AM »
guys, we shouldn't fight ourselves to support Kamala Harris or Donald Trump, remember they always look after their interests and not the interests of the people
however, if they are interests that can serve us, we should have the intelligence to exploit this to our advantage
honestly I don't like either of them, I don't like them

although in reality I don't like any politician
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Re: USA 2024 Elections betting
« Reply #89 on: August 07, 2024, 01:16:05 PM »
... he definitely found a challenge in harris so i am curious what other gimmicks can he pull from his pocket the debate next month should be interesting and very telling of their characters but not their chances to win
it will certainly be interesting to see, given that before it was easy for him to win arguments since he had to talk to a mummy who didnt even know what context he was in: embarrassing.  Now it becomes fun to understand how he responds to a person who is present and has a functioning brain.
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