⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽

[sampoerna]

Yes, with Leverkusen becoming the Bundesliga champion last season, it really made a new resolution in the league, Bayern Munich's dominance was broken and this is a very good progress for the Bundesliga. At least it is now more interesting to watch and observe. Moreover, we understand very well that we often think, ah, most likely Bayern Munich will win again, but now the conditions are different. Even now we are still guessing who will advance in the next top 3 race, or who will be the next Bundesliga winner. Maybe it could be Leverkusen again, or back to Bayern Munich, or maybe Dortmund, or maybe a newcomer.

Usually every season we will predict Bayern Munich will be able to defend the title, because they have everything to make them able to win a title. But this season is a little different because we start talking about the tight competition that might happen.

Leverkusen is a team that changed our view on the Bundesliga this season, the success they achieved last season really changed everything. We are more curious about the course of the competition in the Bundesliga this season.

even it was not like a prediction anymore, but more like a "certainty that will definitely happen"   

Because Bayern Munich has been dominating for years. And finally when the record was broken, and it wasn't Dortmund who did it, but Leverkusen who was really not predicted before, it became a sensation and very interesting. Ah last season was really the best season in the Bundesliga.

if for this season, we still find it difficult to predict, it's not certain that Leverkusen will be as successful as before, but it's not certain that Bayern Munich will take over again. In essence, the competition in the Bundesliga is getting tighter and thinking that this doesn't always have to be Bayern Munich.

[pawel7777]

I've just checked the odds for the outright winner of the Bundesliga 2024/25 and not going to lie, I was quite surprised with what I see.
I expected Leverkusen to be the favourite. There's no way they'll be as dominating as in the previous season, but I still think they are more likely to win than any other team.
Maybe I'm just not a big believer of Kompany being able to make Bayern great again.

[Harkorede]

I've just checked the odds for the outright winner of the Bundesliga 2024/25 and not going to lie, I was quite surprised with what I see.
I expected Leverkusen to be the favourite. There's no way they'll be as dominating as in the previous season, but I still think they are more likely to win than any other team.
Maybe I'm just not a big believer of Kompany being able to make Bayern great again.

I think Kompany might just be right person for the job, because he was fantastic and well experienced as a player and he also did a great job with getting Burnley promoted to premier league 2 season even though the EPL was too tough for them to survive getting relegated back immediately.

Bayern Munich's ambitions might be too demanding and big for Kompany, and he's going to be under a lot of pressure to get it right instantaneously. Teams like Bayern would want instant result to protect the status and perceived legacy of the club.

[pawel7777]

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I think Kompany might just be right person for the job, because he was fantastic and well experienced as a player and he also did a great job with getting Burnley promoted to premier league 2 season even though the EPL was too tough for them to survive getting relegated back immediately.

Sure, but that's the problem - being a great player doesn't automatically transfer into being great manager.
And his success in getting Burnley promoted to the EPL was his only notable success in his managerial career. That's why the Bayern's decision to give him a chance was so surprising to many. They took a gamble with this one.

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Bayern Munich's ambitions might be too demanding and big for Kompany, and he's going to be under a lot of pressure to get it right instantaneously. Teams like Bayern would want instant result to protect the status and perceived legacy of the club.

Exactly. The pressure will be even bigger than in the past years, when Bayern had one, main rival - BvB, but often times they would win the league with a massive advantage over the runner-up. This season will be different. They now have at least 4 teams that can be a serious threat in the race for the title.

[notblox1]

Sure, but that's the problem - being a great player doesn't automatically transfer into being great manager.
And his success in getting Burnley promoted to the EPL was his only notable success in his managerial career. That's why the Bayern's decision to give him a chance was so surprising to many. They took a gamble with this one.

You need to have the talent to manage many players and you need to constantly learn and improve as a manager.
Most of the best players in the world never became great managers after they finished carriers as players, with few exceptions.
Franz Beckenbauer was a great player and manager but he had the talent for both.

[pawel7777]

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You need to have the talent to manage many players and you need to constantly learn and improve as a manager.
Most of the best players in the world never became great managers after they finished carriers as players, with few exceptions.
Franz Beckenbauer was a great player and manager but he had the talent for both.

Yeah, and it looks like Xabi Alonso could be another one. But it's too soon to judge him only by that one, great season. He still has a long way to go.
But maybe that's what motivated Bayern - they witnessed Leverkusen taking a risk and signing up a former star player but inexperienced manager and it played out very nicely for them - so they decided to copy their move and signed up Kompany.
Or maybe they just couldn't secure anyone more established and simply had no better option.

[$crypto$]

Usually every season we will predict Bayern Munich will be able to defend the title, because they have everything to make them able to win a title. But this season is a little different because we start talking about the tight competition that might happen.

Leverkusen is a team that changed our view on the Bundesliga this season, the success they achieved last season really changed everything. We are more curious about the course of the competition in the Bundesliga this season.

even it was not like a prediction anymore, but more like a "certainty that will definitely happen"   

Because Bayern Munich has been dominating for years. And finally when the record was broken, and it wasn't Dortmund who did it, but Leverkusen who was really not predicted before, it became a sensation and very interesting. Ah last season was really the best season in the Bundesliga.

if for this season, we still find it difficult to predict, it's not certain that Leverkusen will be as successful as before, but it's not certain that Bayern Munich will take over again. In essence, the competition in the Bundesliga is getting tighter and thinking that this doesn't always have to be Bayern Munich.

At first we thought that if anyone could break Bayern Munich's dominance, then Borussia Dortmund was in our minds as the team that could do it. Last season they were one step away from doing it, but unfortunately they couldn't win their last match in the Bundesliga.

Honestly at the beginning of last season I didn't think that Leverkusen would be able to do all this, but they were able to confirm themselves as the team that managed to break Bayern Munich's dominance.

[Roseline492]

even it was not like a prediction anymore, but more like a "certainty that will definitely happen"   

Because Bayern Munich has been dominating for years. And finally when the record was broken, and it wasn't Dortmund who did it, but Leverkusen who was really not predicted before, it became a sensation and very interesting. Ah last season was really the best season in the Bundesliga.

You are right because in as much as Bayern Munich has always been the most cherished among every clubs on the Bundesliga but watching Bayern Leverkusen behaves these way against them shows that any club with consistent performance can possibly win the league any season, however I wish every Bundesliga league will be like this finished season because it was very unpredictable and nobody knows how the end will be until they saw Bayern Leverkusen lifting the trophy.

So if next season will also happen the same way it will really make sense a lot because for several Bundesliga seasons now this season was actually the best so far, though in this upcoming season I think Borussia Monchengladbach will be very active on there performance more than the way they perform on this season because they are also working seriously on there club.

[Zed0X]

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Do you think Leverkusen will be as dominant as in 2023/24 and will they defend the title?

It will be great if they could repeat their success but I think Munich would not let that happen the second time. Other teams will also pay more attention to Leverkusen and force them to work harder for a win. I hope they could do better than the small club in PL that won and fell off the following season (Leicester).

[Rruchi man]

Maybe I'm just not a big believer of Kompany being able to make Bayern great again.

The new coach of Bayern Munich has a whole season to prove was wrong and although I do not believe that he can do it in the very first season I think if he will be the one to return Bayern to Glory, it is going to be a gradual process. I will not rate his coaching skills if there are no other team in the Bundesliga seriously giving him a contest, or just if they win the Bundesliga. I will give Kompany a pass mark if he can take Bayern to the Champions league finals.

[Sim_card]

I've just checked the odds for the outright winner of the Bundesliga 2024/25 and not going to lie, I was quite surprised with what I see.
I expected Leverkusen to be the favourite. There's no way they'll be as dominating as in the previous season, but I still think they are more likely to win than any other team.
Maybe I'm just not a big believer of Kompany being able to make Bayern great again.

You don't judge the consistency of a team with just one victory. Leverkusen won last season of which Bayern has being in dominance before last season and that is why you see that ilthe odds is still in favor of Bayern because they are more exposed to winning the league than any other team. I want to see how Leverkusen performance will be like next season because they should be able to keep their consistency since Xabi is still the coach.

[notblox1]

Yeah, and it looks like Xabi Alonso could be another one. But it's too soon to judge him only by that one, great season. He still has a long way to go.
But maybe that's what motivated Bayern - they witnessed Leverkusen taking a risk and signing up a former star player but inexperienced manager and it played out very nicely for them - so they decided to copy their move and signed up Kompany.
Or maybe they just couldn't secure anyone more established and simply had no better option.

Risk pays off sometimes.
Just look what England national team did with Southgate, they went into EURO 2024 final, and everyone criticized him before and during this tournament.
Result is what counts in the end, and Bayern cant allow some other team to win the title in Bundesliga again.
Before last season they dominated and won Bundesliga every years since season 2012/2013.

[UNIVERSE]

Honestly at the beginning of last season I didn't think that Leverkusen would be able to do all this, but they were able to confirm themselves as the team that managed to break Bayern Munich's dominance.

Not only you, I think everyone didn't expect that Leverkusen could play very impressive in the whole season. Who knows that Leverkusen could be a very strong team, they even didn't get a single lose in Bundesliga. This never happened with Leverkusen, even Bayern Munich couldn't win Bundesliga with zero (0) defeat. However, Leverkusen couldn't win Europa league trophy, it was quite unfortunate.

For this season, it is quite difficult to predict how Leverkusen performance. I see some players moving from Leverkusen. But I heard Xabi Alonso wants to sign Arda Guler as a loan player. If Xabi Alonso successfully signs him, I think Leverkusen attacking line will be stronger.

[vegasus]

Maybe I'm just not a big believer of Kompany being able to make Bayern great again.

The new coach of Bayern Munich has a whole season to prove was wrong and although I do not believe that he can do it in the very first season I think if he will be the one to return Bayern to Glory, it is going to be a gradual process. I will not rate his coaching skills if there are no other team in the Bundesliga seriously giving him a contest, or just if they win the Bundesliga. I will give Kompany a pass mark if he can take Bayern to the Champions league finals.

Yes, it's still not very convincing. Fortunately, Bayern Munich is a club that is basically a strong club. So, it might not be that bad for Kompany to manage the club well. At least, if his tactics are really right, then it will go well. But here, how he will live as a new coach with minimal experience, how he will gain the trust of the entire squad, and be able to make it solid, that is still questionable. So, maybe it's still fifty-fifty.

For Leverkusen, this is a new challenge for Xabi to be able to go through this season with much tougher. Although it may not be as convincing as last season, at least, he still has power in the club and he still has most of the squad in the club. At least, his ammunition to make Leverkusen great again this season is still quite good. But yes, all clubs in the Bundesliga are currently still trying to bring in top players who are their targets, in order to strengthen the team of course. As long as there is still an opportunity and also funds, it will be a good choice for them to be able to bring in several more players, who are indeed suitable and talented.

[Harkorede]

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I think Kompany might just be right person for the job, because he was fantastic and well experienced as a player and he also did a great job with getting Burnley promoted to premier league 2 season even though the EPL was too tough for them to survive getting relegated back immediately.

Sure, but that's the problem - being a great player doesn't automatically transfer into being great manager.
And his success in getting Burnley promoted to the EPL was his only notable success in his managerial career. That's why the Bayern's decision to give him a chance was so surprising to many. They took a gamble with this one.

Being a great surely wouldn't mean being a good coach, but Kompany has showed glances that he could be a great coach, but handling a club like Bayern Munich might just be too big for his career for, however, as a coach you'd gather more experience over the years in the job and you'll never be ready enough to coach a big club until you try.