⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽

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Honestly at the beginning of last season I didn't think that Leverkusen would be able to do all this, but they were able to confirm themselves as the team that managed to break Bayern Munich's dominance.

Not only you, I think everyone didn't expect that Leverkusen could play very impressive in the whole season. Who knows that Leverkusen could be a very strong team, they even didn't get a single lose in Bundesliga. This never happened with Leverkusen, even Bayern Munich couldn't win Bundesliga with zero (0) defeat. However, Leverkusen couldn't win Europa league trophy, it was quite unfortunate.

For this season, it is quite difficult to predict how Leverkusen performance. I see some players moving from Leverkusen. But I heard Xabi Alonso wants to sign Arda Guler as a loan player. If Xabi Alonso successfully signs him, I think Leverkusen attacking line will be stronger.

With Xabi Alonso remaining in the squad, it is expected to maintain their performance, even though some players have left, but he also put some new names into the squad that will add to their ammunition.

Xabi Alonso started very well, I hope he can maintain that. The chemistry between him and the players is also very good, so that is an asset. Because in a team, not only strategy is needed, but good chemistry will also be an important factor.

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even it was not like a prediction anymore, but more like a "certainty that will definitely happen"   

Because Bayern Munich has been dominating for years. And finally when the record was broken, and it wasn't Dortmund who did it, but Leverkusen who was really not predicted before, it became a sensation and very interesting. Ah last season was really the best season in the Bundesliga.

At first we thought that if anyone could break Bayern Munich's dominance, then Borussia Dortmund was in our minds as the team that could do it. Last season they were one step away from doing it, but unfortunately they couldn't win their last match in the Bundesliga.

Honestly at the beginning of last season I didn't think that Leverkusen would be able to do all this, but they were able to confirm themselves as the team that managed to break Bayern Munich's dominance.

It seems that almost everyone even thought so, surely it would be Dortmund and not think at all about Leverkusen. But as time went by, when Leverkusen became undefeated until the 10th match, it began to explain, this club is special and should be watched out for by Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich may not have intended to underestimate Leverkusen's achievements at first, but there were indeed several matches where Bayern Munich missed the point, did not compete optimally, so that the first position was in Leverkusen. Maybe Bayern Munich thought that soon Leverkusen would lose and they would take the first position again. But that did not happen.

in fact, Bayern Munich was the one who lost again, while Leverkusen? they survived until the end of the match, undefeated. This is what Bayern Munich did not expect either, so this season they will definitely not waste this opportunity again, they are increasingly aware that their competitors are not only Dortmund, but there is actually something more worrying even though secretly, not only Leverkusen, but also Stuttgart.

[Roseline492]

being a great player doesn't automatically transfer into being great manager.
And his success in getting Burnley promoted to the EPL was his only notable success in his managerial career. That's why the Bayern's decision to give him a chance was so surprising to many. They took a gamble with this one.

Of course you are right because that's what most people normally believe that the moment an experience player retired and venture into coaching they would automatically become a good coach, actually one thing they need to understand is that coaching and playing is a two different things because coaching requires so many skills and critical thinking.

However there are people who has natural talent on both playing and coaching that is why we have some players who retired and currently coaching very well, though one of the things I realized about coaching is that it has process and there is no way a player will just jump into coaching without going through process which is learning because it was through learning Arteta was able to become one of the best coach in the world today.

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in fact, Bayern Munich was the one who lost again, while Leverkusen? they survived until the end of the match, undefeated. This is what Bayern Munich did not expect either, so this season they will definitely not waste this opportunity again, they are increasingly aware that their competitors are not only Dortmund, but there is actually something more worrying even though secretly, not only Leverkusen, but also Stuttgart.

Stuttgart were one of the teams that were not in the reckoning to compete at the top, but they proved that they can be there too, and even if Leverkusen were not there, they would be the champions.

Actually, this is what we want to see, where the competition becomes more competitive because there are several teams that are ready and able to compete. I hope the same thing will happen next season.

[koang]

Stuttgart were one of the teams that were not in the reckoning to compete at the top, but they proved that they can be there too, and even if Leverkusen were not there, they would be the champions.

Actually, this is what we want to see, where the competition becomes more competitive because there are several teams that are ready and able to compete. I hope the same thing will happen next season.

Exactly. Bayern's success in winning the Bundesliga in a row for the last 11 years has made the Bundesliga less interesting.
The competition only occurs for second place in the standings, it is different compared to La Liga or the Premier League.
But the final standings of the 2023/2024 season have made the Bundesliga interesting again, fantastic performances from Leverkusen and Stuttgart have increased the enthusiasm of fans to watch the Bundesliga.

[Rruchi man]

Exactly. Bayern's success in winning the Bundesliga in a row for the last 11 years has made the Bundesliga less interesting.
The competition only occurs for second place in the standings, it is different compared to La Liga or the Premier League.
But the final standings of the 2023/2024 season have made the Bundesliga interesting again, fantastic performances from Leverkusen and Stuttgart have increased the enthusiasm of fans to watch the Bundesliga.

Bayer Leverkusen's unbeaten run last season was a record that added them to the league of Invincibles, with Arsenal, Ajax, AC Milan, Juventus, and Celtic having achieved that feat.

This season, I do not think they can do it again.

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Stuttgart were one of the teams that were not in the reckoning to compete at the top, but they proved that they can be there too, and even if Leverkusen were not there, they would be the champions.

Actually, this is what we want to see, where the competition becomes more competitive because there are several teams that are ready and able to compete. I hope the same thing will happen next season.

Exactly. Bayern's success in winning the Bundesliga in a row for the last 11 years has made the Bundesliga less interesting.
The competition only occurs for second place in the standings, it is different compared to La Liga or the Premier League.
But the final standings of the 2023/2024 season have made the Bundesliga interesting again, fantastic performances from Leverkusen and Stuttgart have increased the enthusiasm of fans to watch the Bundesliga.

It is very important to note that when a team is serious about pursuing achievements and then they work hard to make it happen then it can happen and is very likely to happen. Luck is another thing that I think also adds to what happened last season.

Let's look at Borussia Dortmund, as a team they deserve to be champions if only they can be serious about pursuing it. But unfortunately they are more concerned with other things, namely business, so they cannot shift Bayern Munich's dominance.

[koang]

Exactly. Bayern's success in winning the Bundesliga in a row for the last 11 years has made the Bundesliga less interesting.
The competition only occurs for second place in the standings, it is different compared to La Liga or the Premier League.
But the final standings of the 2023/2024 season have made the Bundesliga interesting again, fantastic performances from Leverkusen and Stuttgart have increased the enthusiasm of fans to watch the Bundesliga.

Bayer Leverkusen's unbeaten run last season was a record that added them to the league of Invincibles, with Arsenal, Ajax, AC Milan, Juventus, and Celtic having achieved that feat.

This season, I do not think they can do it again.

Breaking records would be a satisfying result for any club but it is not the main goal, winning the title is the main goal.
However, knowing the final result of the competition when competition is still ongoing makes it no longer interesting, that is what happened in the Bundesliga in the last 10 years before Xabi appeared in Leverkusen.
Bayern's dominance is only good for the club but not for the Bundesliga as a whole, people are more interested in watching the Premier League or La Liga because of the tight competition between

[Sim_card]

Exactly. Bayern's success in winning the Bundesliga in a row for the last 11 years has made the Bundesliga less interesting.
The competition only occurs for second place in the standings, it is different compared to La Liga or the Premier League.
But the final standings of the 2023/2024 season have made the Bundesliga interesting again, fantastic performances from Leverkusen and Stuttgart have increased the enthusiasm of fans to watch the Bundesliga.

Bayer Leverkusen's unbeaten run last season was a record that added them to the league of Invincibles, with Arsenal, Ajax, AC Milan, Juventus, and Celtic having achieved that feat.

This season, I do not think they can do it again.

Breaking records would be a satisfying result for any club but it is not the main goal, winning the title is the main goal.
However, knowing the final result of the competition when competition is still ongoing makes it no longer interesting, that is what happened in the Bundesliga in the last 10 years before Xabi appeared in Leverkusen.
Bayern's dominance is only good for the club but not for the Bundesliga as a whole, people are more interested in watching the Premier League or La Liga because of the tight competition between

Nobody will want to keep watching a league that from the beginning, you already know who will win the league. It makes it look very easy to predict and not competitive but I think that Era is fading away and that was why Leverkusen was able to change that last season so let's see what happens next season if Bayern will be able to win back the league again. Personally, I think that EPL is becoming more of one club dominating the league and if other clubs did not wake up, EPL might become boring like Bundesliga was.

[alltalk]

With Xabi Alonso remaining in the squad, it is expected to maintain their performance, even though some players have left, but he also put some new names into the squad that will add to their ammunition.

Xabi Alonso started very well, I hope he can maintain that. The chemistry between him and the players is also very good, so that is an asset. Because in a team, not only strategy is needed, but good chemistry will also be an important factor.

Of course, we expect Xabi Alonso can maintain the performance of Leverkusen. Even if it will be very difficult to repeat the success in the previous season, Leverkusen should try to win Bundesliga again. I'm not sure if Leverkusen can be unbeaten again, but I want to see Leverkusen be the champion again. This will make Bundesliga be more interesting because Bayern Munich will be motivated to try harder to beat Leverkusen in the next seasons.

What Xabi Alonso started? I think he didn't start anything now, the season isn't started yet.
Let's see what Xabi Alonso to do in the pre season match against Arsenal, I think it will be an interesting match although Xabi Alonso may not be very serious in a friendly match.

[sampoerna]

in fact, Bayern Munich was the one who lost again, while Leverkusen? they survived until the end of the match, undefeated. This is what Bayern Munich did not expect either, so this season they will definitely not waste this opportunity again, they are increasingly aware that their competitors are not only Dortmund, but there is actually something more worrying even though secretly, not only Leverkusen, but also Stuttgart.

Stuttgart were one of the teams that were not in the reckoning to compete at the top, but they proved that they can be there too, and even if Leverkusen were not there, they would be the champions.

Yes, Stuttgart's achievement last season as runner-up was truly an extraordinary achievement. Even in that season, they achieved several records in the club. At least that is:
- Serhou Guirassy became one of their top scorers in the Bundesliga
- The number of points they increased from last season to the 2023-2024 season was extraordinary, from only 33 points in 2022/2023 to 73 points in 2023/2024, with an increase of more than 100%, which is 40 points.
- Stuttgart's total victory was 23 wins, which is also one of their club records so far

However, for the 2024/2025 season, we don't know whether this club will still be as productive and strong or not. What is clear is that one of their mainstay players and top scorer, Serhou Guirassy, ​​has been bought by Dortmund.

https://www.beinsports.com/en-my/football/bundesliga/articles/stuttgart-set-club-record-with-victory-over-augsburg-2024-05-10
https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/record-breaking-guirassy-target-stuttgart-win-union-berlin-2023-10-21/

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Stuttgart were one of the teams that were not in the reckoning to compete at the top, but they proved that they can be there too, and even if Leverkusen were not there, they would be the champions.

Yes, Stuttgart's achievement last season as runner-up was truly an extraordinary achievement. Even in that season, they achieved several records in the club. At least that is:
- Serhou Guirassy became one of their top scorers in the Bundesliga
- The number of points they increased from last season to the 2023-2024 season was extraordinary, from only 33 points in 2022/2023 to 73 points in 2023/2024, with an increase of more than 100%, which is 40 points.
- Stuttgart's total victory was 23 wins, which is also one of their club records so far

However, for the 2024/2025 season, we don't know whether this club will still be as productive and strong or not. What is clear is that one of their mainstay players and top scorer, Serhou Guirassy, ​​has been bought by Dortmund.

https://www.beinsports.com/en-my/football/bundesliga/articles/stuttgart-set-club-record-with-victory-over-augsburg-2024-05-10
https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/record-breaking-guirassy-target-stuttgart-win-union-berlin-2023-10-21/

Well, indeed the statistics that Stuttgart can record are very good so that they managed to become runners-up and this is an achievement that they rarely get or even this is the first time they have managed to be in this position.

If they can maintain their performance last season and return to put pressure on the Bundesliga, it will be a very good thing. Because usually teams like them actually decline drastically after they go through a very good season.

[Harkorede]

With Xabi Alonso remaining in the squad, it is expected to maintain their performance, even though some players have left, but he also put some new names into the squad that will add to their ammunition.

Xabi Alonso started very well, I hope he can maintain that. The chemistry between him and the players is also very good, so that is an asset. Because in a team, not only strategy is needed, but good chemistry will also be an important factor.

Of course, we expect Xabi Alonso can maintain the performance of Leverkusen. Even if it will be very difficult to repeat the success in the previous season, Leverkusen should try to win Bundesliga again. I'm not sure if Leverkusen can be unbeaten again, but I want to see Leverkusen be the champion again. This will make Bundesliga be more interesting because Bayern Munich will be motivated to try harder to beat Leverkusen in the next seasons.

What Xabi Alonso started? I think he didn't start anything now, the season isn't started yet.
Let's see what Xabi Alonso to do in the pre season match against Arsenal, I think it will be an interesting match although Xabi Alonso may not be very serious in a friendly match.

Last season's success by Bayer Leverkusen will cast a very great shadow on whatever they do or achieve this coming season, except they're able to replicate the league doubles again, they were close to getting the treble, If not for Lookman Ademola and Atalanta that deprived them of that chance, with the level of expectation and pressure that will be exerted on Leverkusen, I don't even think they'd finish in the top 4. However, I'm hoping that I'll be proved wrong by the team.

[pawel7777]

Of course, we expect Xabi Alonso can maintain the performance of Leverkusen. Even if it will be very difficult to repeat the success in the previous season, Leverkusen should try to win Bundesliga again. I'm not sure if Leverkusen can be unbeaten again, but I want to see Leverkusen be the champion again. This will make Bundesliga be more interesting because Bayern Munich will be motivated to try harder to beat Leverkusen in the next seasons.

I think there's a zero chance they will win the league in the same, dominating fashion as they did last season, but even if they end up with 20 points less than in 2023/24, it could still be enough to defend the title. i.e. in 2022/23 Bayern won the league with only 71 points.
I wonder how Leverkusen will perform in the Champions League and whether that will be their priority.

[bounceback]

Yes, Stuttgart's achievement last season as runner-up was truly an extraordinary achievement. Even in that season, they achieved several records in the club. At least that is:
- Serhou Guirassy became one of their top scorers in the Bundesliga
- The number of points they increased from last season to the 2023-2024 season was extraordinary, from only 33 points in 2022/2023 to 73 points in 2023/2024, with an increase of more than 100%, which is 40 points.
- Stuttgart's total victory was 23 wins, which is also one of their club records so far

However, for the 2024/2025 season, we don't know whether this club will still be as productive and strong or not. What is clear is that one of their mainstay players and top scorer, Serhou Guirassy, ​​has been bought by Dortmund.

https://www.beinsports.com/en-my/football/bundesliga/articles/stuttgart-set-club-record-with-victory-over-augsburg-2024-05-10
https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/record-breaking-guirassy-target-stuttgart-win-union-berlin-2023-10-21/

Unbelievable with VfB Stuttgart achievement in this season success moving down Bayern Munich to third standings position and the first time Stuttgart success finish as 2nd place. But last season I doubt they can repeat their success achievement after selling their top scorer Serhou Guirassy to Dortmund and huge pressure will play in Champion League but have consistent playing in domestic league.
Current activities transfer, VfB Stuttgart not sign any top players right now and its bad prepare team because they will play in Champion League and must defend the top fourth standings in domestic league.