⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽

[koang]

What a great day for Bayern, both of their top competitors in the race for the title lost points today.
Borussia Dortmund has lost to Union Berlin, who now has overtaken BvB and are placed 6th (BvB is 7th). And the biggest surprise of the day is Holstein Kiel, a team from the very bottom of the table (with only 1 point before today) manages to earn a point in an away game against Leverkusen, despite being down 2-0 after only 8 minutes.

What's going on with Leverkusen?
After not playing well against Wolfsburg, it happened again to them in this game.
Leverkusen didn't deserve any points at all. 10 minutes of football, 80 minutes of incompetence. IMO
Leverkusen didn't play smart enough after taking the lead, They seemed to underestimate their opponent.
Very bad, I'm very disappointed but I hope there are many things they can take from this game, and do better next time.

[ajiz138]

The match between Frankfurt vs Bayern Munich is ongoing, Bayern Munich could take the lead first in the 15th minute, but it didn't take long for Frankfurt to equalize.

Bayern Munich dominated the match, but one chance that Frankfurt managed to create could be utilized very well. Frankfurt was forced to play defensively, it would be very difficult for them to withstand every attack, they had to focus if they didn't want to lose.

[pawel7777]

What's going on with Leverkusen?
After not playing well against Wolfsburg, it happened again to them in this game.
Leverkusen didn't deserve any points at all. 10 minutes of football, 80 minutes of incompetence. IMO
Leverkusen didn't play smart enough after taking the lead, They seemed to underestimate their opponent.
Very bad, I'm very disappointed but I hope there are many things they can take from this game, and do better next time.

It's hard to blame them, to be honest. They played against the weakest team in the league who managed to score only one point in 5 games, and then were up 2-0 after only 8 minutes. It's almost impossible not to get overconfident in such scenario.
There's some consolation that all their main rivals (other than Leipzig) also lost points in this round: Dortmund, Bayern, and Stuttgart. So it's not like Leverkusen is the only team that underdelivered this week. A lot of bets must have been lost...

[koang]

What's going on with Leverkusen?
After not playing well against Wolfsburg, it happened again to them in this game.
Leverkusen didn't deserve any points at all. 10 minutes of football, 80 minutes of incompetence. IMO
Leverkusen didn't play smart enough after taking the lead, They seemed to underestimate their opponent.
Very bad, I'm very disappointed but I hope there are many things they can take from this game, and do better next time.

It's hard to blame them, to be honest. They played against the weakest team in the league who managed to score only one point in 5 games, and then were up 2-0 after only 8 minutes. It's almost impossible not to get overconfident in such scenario.
There's some consolation that all their main rivals (other than Leipzig) also lost points in this round: Dortmund, Bayern, and Stuttgart. So it's not like Leverkusen is the only team that underdelivered this week. A lot of bets must have been lost...

All of the bets were ruined because of poor performance from the big teams... Makes a loss of money from the gamblers.
Sometimes a match that looks very easy for a team becomes a surprise at the end, a Football mystery.

Leverkusen messed up big time this weekend, Almost lost to the worst team in the league, the easiest win they can get but they sold it.
So if they will have a 2:0 lead in the next game I will turn my TV off

[pawel7777]

Do you guys think Leipzig is a serious contender for the title and could give Bayern a run for their money? Or are they not strong enough to keep it up?
They're a bit weird team, they've been doing really good in the past years and would always finish somewhere in the top, but nobody ever mentions them as a serious prospect for the league winner. They had a big away win against Leverkusen (3-2) this season and currently have the same points as Bayern, but are not doing that great in the Champions League as they've lost their first 2 games.

[Captain Corporate]

I doubt that, Leipzig is always a decent enough team, they have some good money backing them, but they can't be winners, not this season at least. Maybe in the future when they get a great team together they might, and if other teams not do so well, then there is a chance. But this season it doesn't look like a possibility. You never know in world of football obviously, it could happen or maybe not happen, we never know whats going to happen, but eventually its going to be better one way or another. We just need to make sure everything seems like its looking alright for the time being, and we can get greater results.

[$crypto$]

I doubt that, Leipzig is always a decent enough team, they have some good money backing them, but they can't be winners, not this season at least. Maybe in the future when they get a great team together they might, and if other teams not do so well, then there is a chance. But this season it doesn't look like a possibility. You never know in world of football obviously, it could happen or maybe not happen, we never know whats going to happen, but eventually its going to be better one way or another. We just need to make sure everything seems like its looking alright for the time being, and we can get greater results.

Leipzig is a team that can compete at the top of the standings, but they are not strong enough to be champions. Mentality is one of the things that a team must have, without mentality they will quickly decline even though their performance is very good, the better the performance the greater the pressure.

We can see Paris Saint Germain, they actually have everything, but when they are in the Champions League they always fail. One of their shortcomings is the mentality that I see.

[pawel7777]

I've just learned that Leipzig is currently the 3rd richest club in the Bundesliga, regardless of whether we look at the revenue generation or market value. I think if they keep finishing at the top each season, there's a chance they could overtake Borussia Dortmund for the title of Bayern's most serious rival.
So far they're doing very well in the league, but they seem to be overly focused on the defence, with only 2 goals lost in 6 games, which is a great result, but maybe shifting more towards an offensive stance would benefit them more. They've only scored 9 goals, which is much less than any other of the top clubs.

[LUCKMCFLY]

All of the bets were ruined because of poor performance from the big teams... Makes a loss of money from the gamblers.
Sometimes a match that looks very easy for a team becomes a surprise at the end, a Football mystery.

Leverkusen messed up big time this weekend, Almost lost to the worst team in the league, the easiest win they can get but they sold it.
So if they will have a 2:0 lead in the next game I will turn my TV off

Yes, I know what you mean I found it quite strange that Leverkusen are like this. Now I see that teams can have a great season but they have to maintain their level. If they now drop due to their level, their performance has to adapt Sometimes Leverkusen seems devastating , and in fact they are like that, but I don't know if they get tired or careless or overconfident , but from one moment to Another things get out of hand. At this point , it can't happen anymore because any game they lose is -3 points , which they really need at the end of the Bundesliga.

[koang]

All of the bets were ruined because of poor performance from the big teams... Makes a loss of money from the gamblers.
Sometimes a match that looks very easy for a team becomes a surprise at the end, a Football mystery.

Leverkusen messed up big time this weekend, Almost lost to the worst team in the league, the easiest win they can get but they sold it.
So if they will have a 2:0 lead in the next game I will turn my TV off

Yes, I know what you mean I found it quite strange that Leverkusen are like this. Now I see that teams can have a great season but they have to maintain their level. If they now drop due to their level, their performance has to adapt Sometimes Leverkusen seems devastating , and in fact they are like that, but I don't know if they get tired or careless or overconfident , but from one moment to Another things get out of hand. At this point , it can't happen anymore because any game they lose is -3 points , which they really need at the end of the Bundesliga.

It’s been two years since Xabi Alonso managed his first game at Leverkusen, 100 games, and 3 trophies but it is just history.
The new season is a new challenge, stuck in fifth place and 3 points behind Bayern at the top of the table is a warning for them to be more focused. No more points easily.
Keeping sharp and focused in the field or the practice match!

BTW, I like the Bundesliga this season, the competition looks tighter and every team is showing significant improvement.

[ajiz138]

All of the bets were ruined because of poor performance from the big teams... Makes a loss of money from the gamblers.
Sometimes a match that looks very easy for a team becomes a surprise at the end, a Football mystery.

Leverkusen messed up big time this weekend, Almost lost to the worst team in the league, the easiest win they can get but they sold it.
So if they will have a 2:0 lead in the next game I will turn my TV off

Yes, I know what you mean I found it quite strange that Leverkusen are like this. Now I see that teams can have a great season but they have to maintain their level. If they now drop due to their level, their performance has to adapt Sometimes Leverkusen seems devastating , and in fact they are like that, but I don't know if they get tired or careless or overconfident , but from one moment to Another things get out of hand. At this point , it can't happen anymore because any game they lose is -3 points , which they really need at the end of the Bundesliga.

It is actually not something strange when a team has to experience negative results from a match that they should have won. The result made many bettors lose because the results were far from predictions.

There has been a decline shown by Leverkusen this season, this has actually been our discussion about how they played after successfully becoming champions last season. It is not easy to maintain consistency, and Leverkusen feels that difficulty.

[UNIVERSE]

Do you guys think Leipzig is a serious contender for the title and could give Bayern a run for their money? Or are they not strong enough to keep it up?
They're a bit weird team, they've been doing really good in the past years and would always finish somewhere in the top, but nobody ever mentions them as a serious prospect for the league winner. They had a big away win against Leverkusen (3-2) this season and currently have the same points as Bayern, but are not doing that great in the Champions League as they've lost their first 2 games.

Why not? Leipzig looks performing quite consistent in this season. Leipzig also becomes stronger with some famous players there. I think this team may have a chance to compete for the title until the end of the season.

I don't see this is a weird team, Leipzig is a part of big teams in Bundesliga. Even if people don't favor this team to be the champion, this doesn't mean Leipzig is weak team. Anyway, if they played not well in UCL, they may get difficult draws. They need to play strong teams, so they get difficulty to get points.

[pawel7777]

Before the start of the season, I was rooting bor Leverkusen but started having doubts about whether they are capable of defending the title.
We all know the previous season was exceptional and impossible to replicate, but I still expected a better start to this season. You could justify losing points to Leipzig or Bayern, as they are the top teams, but the latest draw at home against Holstein Kiel, a team from the very bottom of the table, was particularly disappointing.

On a positive note, Leverkusen is doing really well in the Champions League, with 2 wins in the first 2 rounds (against Feyenoord and Milan). I still believe they have what it takes to defend the Bundesliga title if they manage to stabilise their performance at a high level.

[koang]

Before the start of the season, I was rooting bor Leverkusen but started having doubts about whether they are capable of defending the title.
We all know the previous season was exceptional and impossible to replicate, but I still expected a better start to this season. You could justify losing points to Leipzig or Bayern, as they are the top teams, but the latest draw at home against Holstein Kiel, a team from the very bottom of the table, was particularly disappointing.

On a positive note, Leverkusen is doing really well in the Champions League, with 2 wins in the first 2 rounds (against Feyenoord and Milan). I still believe they have what it takes to defend the Bundesliga title if they manage to stabilise their performance at a high level.

The Bundesliga 2024-2025 is in a very different atmosphere from the previous season.
The fans' expectations and opponents' motivation to beat Leverkusen will be greater this season, as evidenced by the several matches they have played.
The euphoria of being champions must be thrown away, and last season's spectacular winning record must be forgotten.
In several matches this season, Leverkusen did mess up but overall Leverkusen is still on the track, not special but still on the track.
And I still hope Alonso will find his secret sauce in the rest of the season, especially in defense, their defense system is problematic.

[$crypto$]

Borussia Dortmund is one of the teams that I am watching in the Bundesliga, they are a team that can usually provide very tight competition for Bayern Munich, but last season they experienced a decline so that they even had to drop out of the top 4. Luckily they can still be in the Champions League because the Bundesliga quota has increased.

This season they also started with an unimpressive performance, I doubt they will be able to compete this season.