⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽

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Mainz and Monchengladbach had to share points in the 8th week of the Bundesliga, they had to be satisfied with a score of 1-1 that occurred in this match. Mainz who played as the host had to lose 2 points.

In terms of the game, Mainz was actually more daring to attack, but their attacks were not very effective and many times met with dead ends. Likewise, Gladbach did not play defensively, they tried to find gaps, but that was not enough to make them win.

[LUCKMCFLY]

The biggest favourite of this round is, of course, Bayern, who are playing against Bochum, who are at the very bottom of the table. Anything other than a high win will be a surprise.

Without a doubt my friend, for me Bayern has everything to win, however each story is different in each match, that's why we have to see the best way of what can benefit the other team, but even so I see that Bayern is way above the level, unless Kane and Muller don't play, even so Bayern have good substitutes to play, it's a fact that things should be done that way, for a bet I would fundamentally go for Bayern for what they have shown, of course in the UCL they have done very badly.

[Asiska02]

The biggest favourite of this round is, of course, Bayern, who are playing against Bochum, who are at the very bottom of the table. Anything other than a high win will be a surprise.

Without a doubt my friend, for me Bayern has everything to win, however each story is different in each match, that's why we have to see the best way of what can benefit the other team, but even so I see that Bayern is way above the level, unless Kane and Muller don't play, even so Bayern have good substitutes to play, it's a fact that things should be done that way, for a bet I would fundamentally go for Bayern for what they have shown, of course in the UCL they have done very badly.

In the UCL and in the La Liga, those are two different competitions that needs to be well played by Bayern Munich but unfortunately they didn’t do well in their last match against Barcelona. This is not even something we can use to judge their performance in the Bundesliga. They may not be good at the champions league but they’re very much going to dominate the Bundesliga because I feel they’re most opportune there to win a trophy than they would in the Champions League. Bochum was a smaller team in quality and performance compared to them, so they didn’t have problems winning them.

[Axcel777]

The biggest favourite of this round is, of course, Bayern, who are playing against Bochum, who are at the very bottom of the table. Anything other than a high win will be a surprise.

Without a doubt my friend, for me Bayern has everything to win, however each story is different in each match, that's why we have to see the best way of what can benefit the other team, but even so I see that Bayern is way above the level, unless Kane and Muller don't play, even so Bayern have good substitutes to play, it's a fact that things should be done that way, for a bet I would fundamentally go for Bayern for what they have shown, of course in the UCL they have done very badly.

In the UCL and in the La Liga, those are two different competitions that needs to be well played by Bayern Munich but unfortunately they didn’t do well in their last match against Barcelona. This is not even something we can use to judge their performance in the Bundesliga. They may not be good at the champions league but they’re very much going to dominate the Bundesliga because I feel they’re most opportune there to win a trophy than they would in the Champions League. Bochum was a smaller team in quality and performance compared to them, so they didn’t have problems winning them.

Although the side is struggling in the Champions League, Bayern Munich continues to play well in the Bundesliga, and the chances of tasting the title are bright. This domestic competition has made us comfortable that they will be dominant especially on teams below their standing like Bochum. Bayern sure have maintained their strength as one of the powerful teams in the Bundesliga from the current season.

[pawel7777]

Still a few days to go but this weekend is looking really interesting, with few clashes at the top:

Leverkusen Vs Stuttgart - the current champions and 2023-24 runner-ups. Stuttgart has not been super impressive recently when it comes to league games, but they can be really dangerous when they play at their 100%, as evidenced i.e. by them beating Juventus in an away game. Juventus was (and still is) unbeaten in Serie A this season and, up until the last weekend, has only lost 1 goal in 8 games.

Bayern Vs Union Berlin - Union is currently 4th and should not be underestimated. They have a really solid defence, with only 5 goals lost in league games so far (Bayern conceded 7).

Dortmund Vs Leipzig - To my surprise, Dortmund is still a favourite here despite being at the 7th place in the league while Leipzig is 2nd, and knowing that Leipzig has the best defence in the league this season, with no losses and only 3 goals lost in 8 games. Their attacking power is comparable: Dortmund scored 15 league goals, and Leipzig scored 14.

[pawel7777]

Jurgen Klopp is facing some backlash (mostly from Dortmund fans) after accepting job position from Red Bull:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14021427/Jurgen-Klopp-responds-criticism-controversial-Red-Bull-former-Liverpool-boss-admits-didnt-consider-fan-backlash-taking-role.html
Red Bull effectively owns RB Leipzig, along with several other sports clubs. While Klopp won’t be acting as a coach, he is expected to be involved in managing these endeavors.

Today I learned that Lepizig is considered to be the most hated club in Germany, as it's seen as a symbol of commercialisation of football, after it was taken over by Red Bull, who packed a lot of money in it and moved it from 5th division to the Bundesliga. Many German fans see this as going against the country's football tradition and sport ethos.

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In the UCL and in the La Liga, those are two different competitions that needs to be well played by Bayern Munich but unfortunately they didn’t do well in their last match against Barcelona. This is not even something we can use to judge their performance in the Bundesliga. They may not be good at the champions league but they’re very much going to dominate the Bundesliga because I feel they’re most opportune there to win a trophy than they would in the Champions League. Bochum was a smaller team in quality and performance compared to them, so they didn’t have problems winning them.

They just got a very satisfying result in DFB, they managed to beat Mainz with a score of 4 goals without reply. Their defeat in the Champions League became a big motivation for them to be able to win again.

Actually in the Bundesliga they do not have many problems, it's just that they need to improve themselves to be more consistent than before. Because that's what made them slip up many times, especially last season.

[koang]

Jurgen Klopp is facing some backlash (mostly from Dortmund fans) after accepting job position from Red Bull:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14021427/Jurgen-Klopp-responds-criticism-controversial-Red-Bull-former-Liverpool-boss-admits-didnt-consider-fan-backlash-taking-role.html
Red Bull effectively owns RB Leipzig, along with several other sports clubs. While Klopp won’t be acting as a coach, he is expected to be involved in managing these endeavors.

Today I learned that Lepizig is considered to be the most hated club in Germany, as it's seen as a symbol of commercialisation of football, after it was taken over by Red Bull, who packed a lot of money in it and moved it from 5th division to the Bundesliga. Many German fans see this as going against the country's football tradition and sport ethos.

Klopp really needed to get out of Liverpool
Klopp said, that while his role has changed, his passion for football remains as strong as ever.
But, we know that someone doesn't have a passion for football if he works for a soccer foe like Red Bull, and his new position as Global Head of Football at Red Bull Group is part of everything wrong with the sport today. This new role doesn't suit him.

[pawel7777]

Odds for all the games this weekend:

Bayer 04 Leverkusen x1.53; Draw x5.00; VfB Stuttgart x5.00
FC Bayern München x1.20; Draw x7.00; 1. FC Union Berlin x14.00
Eintracht Frankfurt x1.33; Draw x6.00; VfL Bochum 1848 x7.50
Holstein Kiel x2.66; Draw x3.50; 1. FC Heidenheim 1846 x2.57
TSG Hoffenheim x1.86; Draw x4.00; FC St. Pauli x3.80
VfL Wolfsburg x1.96; Draw x3.75; FC Augsburg x3.66
Borussia Dortmund x2.22; Draw x3.75; RB Leipzig x3.30
SC Freiburg x1.70; Draw x4.00; 1. FSV Mainz 05 x4.75
Borussia Mönchengladbach x2.10; Draw x3.75; SV Werder Bremen x3.25

We're opening this round with Leverkusen Vs Stuttgart tomorrow evening. Leverkusen are the favourite, but Stuttgart won't go easy. In the last 5 games between these two teams, we had 4 draws and one win by Leverkusen.

[Rruchi man]

We're opening this round with Leverkusen Vs Stuttgart tomorrow evening. Leverkusen are the favourite, but Stuttgart won't go easy. In the last 5 games between these two teams, we had 4 draws and one win by Leverkusen.

It seems the game is heading for another draw because, at the 80th minute, Leverkusen is still drawn with Stuttgart. It may be a fixture where we have late goals, but that is highly unlikely  because Leverkusen are not quite as lucky as they were last season with the undefeated record.

Bayer 04 Leverkusen x1.53; Draw x5.00; VfB Stuttgart x5.00

The odds for the draw is very good, It will be a good win for anyone who took that bet if the game ends goalless.

[pawel7777]

So the only today's game between Leverkusen and Stuttgart ended with a disappointing goalless draw.
As I mentioned before, before today, 4 out of the last 5 games between those two ended up with draws, so seeing them splitting points tonight was not a surprise. The lack of goals was.

Despite the result, it's fair to say Leverkusen was a much better team. They had plenty of great chances but couldn't find the way to the net. It looks like they exhausted all their luck in the previous season.

[ajiz138]

So the only today's game between Leverkusen and Stuttgart ended with a disappointing goalless draw.
As I mentioned before, before today, 4 out of the last 5 games between those two ended up with draws, so seeing them splitting points tonight was not a surprise. The lack of goals was.

Despite the result, it's fair to say Leverkusen was a much better team. They had plenty of great chances but couldn't find the way to the net. It looks like they exhausted all their luck in the previous season.

Leverkusen this season has had several unsatisfactory results. Yes, they look more down this season compared to last season. Xabi Alonso must immediately evaluate everything so that they can return to their best performance.

The season is still very long so there are still many opportunities for Leverkusen to return to their best performance and compete again to defend the title they won last season.

[Rruchi man]

The season is still very long so there are still many opportunities for Leverkusen to return to their best performance and compete again to defend the title they won last season.

With the kind of form that Harry Kane is in where he cannot stop scoring goals for Bayern, it is difficult to imagine that Bayern Leverkusen will somehow be able to overtake them because Bayern look consistent in the league this season.
Leipzig who are the closest to Bayern, will face Dortmund to try get all three points to stay in line and close proximity with Bayern. Dortmund will be playing at home, they are stronger there.

[ajiz138]

The season is still very long so there are still many opportunities for Leverkusen to return to their best performance and compete again to defend the title they won last season.

With the kind of form that Harry Kane is in where he cannot stop scoring goals for Bayern, it is difficult to imagine that Bayern Leverkusen will somehow be able to overtake them because Bayern look consistent in the league this season.
Leipzig who are the closest to Bayern, will face Dortmund to try get all three points to stay in line and close proximity with Bayern. Dortmund will be playing at home, they are stronger there.

Actually it could be, because last season, if we talk about squad strength, Bayern Munich's squad was better than Leverkusen's, but Leverkusen could have better teamwork.

In contrast to this season, Leverkusen does not seem to be running like last season in teamwork. Whether it is because Xabi is approaching his strategy, or this is because his players are indeed declining. Some changes in the squad may also have an effect.

[LUCKMCFLY]

In the UCL and in the La Liga, those are two different competitions that needs to be well played by Bayern Munich but unfortunately they didn’t do well in their last match against Barcelona. This is not even something we can use to judge their performance in the Bundesliga. They may not be good at the champions league but they’re very much going to dominate the Bundesliga because I feel they’re most opportune there to win a trophy than they would in the Champions League. Bochum was a smaller team in quality and performance compared to them, so they didn’t have problems winning them.

Yes, it is very true what you say, but it is a very good turning point for comparison, in the Bundesliga I consider that the level is not as demanding as in the UCL, however when we think about the Bundesliga there are things to resolve, like keeping the first place, not letting the teams beat them, maintaining that status that they have in Germany, therefore when we talk about changes in the formation they must be made, Barcelona already gave a warning, they beat them, that already says a lot, not any team beats you and then one is going to say that things happened fortuitously, no, changes of all kinds must be made so that it never happens again, conformism in football is an enemy of every team.