⚽ Bundesliga 2024/25 discussion and predictions thread ⚽

[koang]

Some potentially tough games for both Bayern and Leverkusen tomorrow.

Leverkusen dropped points against Leipzig; Bayern Munich got all three points in their game. Extra advantage for Bayern Munich coming from a disappointing Champions League performance.

I feel Bayern should focus more on winning the Bundesliga this season than the Champions League that looks gone already.

I think they prioritize both to be champions. The opportunity is there and they have to make the most of it. In the Champions League they have already ensured that they can qualify for the play-offs at least, so in the last match they can rotate to maintain the physical condition of their players to prepare for the play-offs. Or they have to win to be able to qualify directly.

Yep. Winning the Champions League is the ultimate goal of every European club.
Bayern is a big team. As a big team, Bayern has a good squad to continue competing in both competitions, qualifying directly for the round of 16 or through the playoffs doesn't matter.
And Kompany knew from the first day he agreed to become Bayern coach that if he couldn't win the trophies, he must leave

[Agbe]

Bayern Munich is a big club in Europe but they have not been convincing in their performance of late as they lost in the champions League game against feeyenord and also in their bundesliga game against Freiburg they where not that fantastic because they would hav draw that game if not that Freiburg was not clinical at goal if they must go far in the champions League this season they must increase level level of performance because even at home in the bundesliga Leverkusen is close to them so there's no guarantee that they will win so bayern has to be consistent in their play

[koang]

Bayern Munich is a big club in Europe but they have not been convincing in their performance of late as they lost in the champions League game against feeyenord and also in their bundesliga game against Freiburg they where not that fantastic because they would hav draw that game if not that Freiburg was not clinical at goal if they must go far in the champions League this season they must increase level level of performance because even at home in the bundesliga Leverkusen is close to them so there's no guarantee that they will win so bayern has to be consistent in their play

You are absolutely right. It's still a misery to be solved for German giants
Vincent Kompany is not the best option for Bayern Munich right now, but He has worked very hard and tried to do well
But we are talking about Bayern, where many players have salaries up to 15-20m/year, No excuses for defeat.
The fans even are not accept anything less than a solid victory against any team in the Bundesliga and UCL

[Agbe]

Leverkusen dropped points this weekend again to let bayern munich increase their points lead in the German bundesliga I was really expecting a win from Leverkusen knowing the task that is ahead of them that is ahead of them because dropping points is not a good one for the team's hopes of reclaiming their title this season because this season Leverkusen has really dropped in form they are different from what they where known for in their last season performance where they won every trophy in Germany but this season they started poorly and also lack of form contributed to this as they are currently sitting in second place behind Bayarn Munich but the point difference is about seven points so if they can maintain their form and stop dropping points the way they are doing currently they will definitely reclaim their title

[Sim_card]

Leverkusen dropped points this weekend again to let bayern munich increase their points lead in the German bundesliga I was really expecting a win from Leverkusen knowing the task that is ahead of them that is ahead of them because dropping points is not a good one for the team's hopes of reclaiming their title this season because this season Leverkusen has really dropped in form they are different from what they where known for in their last season performance where they won every trophy in Germany but this season they started poorly and also lack of form contributed to this as they are currently sitting in second place behind Bayarn Munich but the point difference is about seven points so if they can maintain their form and stop dropping points the way they are doing currently they will definitely reclaim their title

Leipzig is not an average club and they are currently in their best form. This was why you saw them putting themselves back into the game from two goals down, they were able to equalize and draw the match. Sharing point was the best thing for than losing. On the other hand, Bayern is keeping up their consistency and they're more desperate of winning the title this season than Leverkusen.

[pawel7777]

Well done for Bayern for earning 3 points on Freiburg. I knew it won't be an easy game as Freiburg tends to lose points by draws not losses, but, despite not having that many scoring chances, Bayern managed to grab a win.
Unfortunately Leverkusen wasted their 2 goals advantage they had over Leipzig up until the 41st minute and they let Leipzig take the initiative and eventually level the score to 2-2.
Now the gap between the first Bayern and 2nd Bayer grew to six points and it will be really hard for Bayer to make that difference up. They will be playing against Bayern at home on 15th Feb, and if they fail to win, it'll be really hard for them to defend their Bundesliga champions title.

Another game without a win for Dortmund, but I don't think anyone is surprised by that. To their credit, they managed to take a 2-0 lead despite being down to 10 men, but were unable to carry that to the final whistle.

[koang]

Leverkusen dropped points this weekend again to let bayern munich increase their points lead in the German bundesliga I was really expecting a win from Leverkusen knowing the task that is ahead of them that is ahead of them because dropping points is not a good one for the team's hopes of reclaiming their title this season because this season Leverkusen has really dropped in form they are different from what they where known for in their last season performance where they won every trophy in Germany but this season they started poorly and also lack of form contributed to this as they are currently sitting in second place behind Bayarn Munich but the point difference is about seven points so if they can maintain their form and stop dropping points the way they are doing currently they will definitely reclaim their title

Leipzig is not an average club and they are currently in their best form. This was why you saw them putting themselves back into the game from two goals down, they were able to equalize and draw the match. Sharing point was the best thing for than losing. On the other hand, Bayern is keeping up their consistency and they're more desperate of winning the title this season than Leverkusen.

Yeah. Leipzig is a good team. Under Marco Rose, Leipzig gets the ball to the attackers as quickly and directly as possible, but they're also very patient and organized in the build-up phase.
Leipzig's game reminded me of Real Madrid, they ping that long ball into the final third after coming out the pressure calmed down.

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I think they prioritize both to be champions. The opportunity is there and they have to make the most of it. In the Champions League they have already ensured that they can qualify for the play-offs at least, so in the last match they can rotate to maintain the physical condition of their players to prepare for the play-offs. Or they have to win to be able to qualify directly.

Regarding with current points, Bayern Munich have been qualify trough playoff round in Champion League but still have opportunity break to the top eight standings position if can win last match and waiting the higher standings teams result. Actually Bayern Munich must prepare in Champion League for playing at playoff round because very difficult have wait several higher standings teams result.
But in domestic league Bayern have 6 points left awhile from Leverkusen after being draw in this week from Leipzig, its good trend for Bayern have many points left and secure the bundesliga trophy as soon possible.

They must prepare a strategy, including their strategy in maintaining their position in the Bundesliga if at any time they experience a difficult situation such as a storm of injuries for example.

They are in a very advantageous position, but that does not mean it is easy, because usually maintaining will be more difficult than winning. However, they have very good experience, so they should be used to all the pressure.

[LUCKMCFLY]

g Another game without a win for Dortmund, but I don't think anyone is surprised by that. To their credit, they managed to take a 2-0 lead despite being down to 10 men, but were unable to carry that to the final whistle.

Lately Dortmund is a team that has dropped a bit in performance, and this has caused these types of results. To be honest, I like this team, although I am more of a Leverkusen fan who are doing very well. Xabi really knows how to make things better for everyone. Bayern undoubtedly have a lot to offer and in this case they can improve. Dortmund have always stood out. All teams always go through a bad moment and this could be the biggest test of all to move forward.

Borussia Dortmund hold talks with Ralf Rangnick over interim head coach role

Sky Germany reports that during their ‘secret’ trip to Austria, Borussia Dortmund held talks with Ralf Rangnick over becoming their interim head coach.

Dortmund are said to have travelled to Austria and held talks with Niko Kovac while it was reported by Sportschau that there was a second candidate called ‘Mr X’. It can be assumed that Rangnick is ‘Mr X’.

However, Rangnick’s contract still runs as Austria’s head coach until the end of this year. On top of this, he also has previously coached a club on an interim basis, having taken charge of Manchester United in the second half of the 2022 season, which was a disaster due to the situation at the club at the time.

Source:https://www.getfootballnewsgermany.com/2025/borussia-dortmund-hold-talks-with-ralf-rangnick-over-interim-head-coach-role/

[pawel7777]

The final round of the Champions League league stage has concluded.
We have only one German team in the top 8 (straight to the top 16 without play-offs) and it's Bayer Leverkusen, who today defeated Sparta Prague 2-0.
Both Bayern and Dortmund have also won tonight (against Slovan Bratislava and Shakhtar Donetsk respectively) and they both finished in the seeded play-offs places.

Stuttgart and Leipzig got eliminated. Leipzig didn't even have a chance before this round, but Stuttgart finished just 1 point away from the play-offs zone, but they couldn't do much against desperate and motivated PSG despite playing at home and ended up losing 3-1.

Still, having 5 German teams in the Champions League was a success on its own.

[pieppiep]

I think they prioritize both to be champions. The opportunity is there and they have to make the most of it. In the Champions League they have already ensured that they can qualify for the play-offs at least, so in the last match they can rotate to maintain the physical condition of their players to prepare for the play-offs. Or they have to win to be able to qualify directly.

Regarding with current points, Bayern Munich have been qualify trough playoff round in Champion League but still have opportunity break to the top eight standings position if can win last match and waiting the higher standings teams result. Actually Bayern Munich must prepare in Champion League for playing at playoff round because very difficult have wait several higher standings teams result.
But in domestic league Bayern have 6 points left awhile from Leverkusen after being draw in this week from Leipzig, its good trend for Bayern have many points left and secure the bundesliga trophy as soon possible.

They must prepare a strategy, including their strategy in maintaining their position in the Bundesliga if at any time they experience a difficult situation such as a storm of injuries for example.

They are in a very advantageous position, but that does not mean it is easy, because usually maintaining will be more difficult than winning. However, they have very good experience, so they should be used to all the pressure.

In general, it must be said that at the highest level it is far from easy to maintain a position, not mentioning the fact that at any time various challenges can turn up. Situations like injuries of key players, time constraints and similar other factors can be challenging for a team. However, the experience that has been gained is one of the essential components that help to address every pressure that may occur. That is why when a team is accustomed to hard sets of circumstances, they will be in a better place to address those hurdles and even maintain direction. It is thus not only about how they keep up with the accomplishments, but also how may a society progress and establish better grounds with regard to the numerous existing situations. Consistency and preparedness to confront all sorts of situations will be the primary strategies that will enable organisations record better performances in the future.

[koang]

The final round of the Champions League league stage has concluded.
We have only one German team in the top 8 (straight to the top 16 without play-offs) and it's Bayer Leverkusen, who today defeated Sparta Prague 2-0.
Both Bayern and Dortmund have also won tonight (against Slovan Bratislava and Shakhtar Donetsk respectively) and they both finished in the seeded play-offs places.

Stuttgart and Leipzig got eliminated. Leipzig didn't even have a chance before this round, but Stuttgart finished just 1 point away from the play-offs zone, but they couldn't do much against desperate and motivated PSG despite playing at home and ended up losing 3-1.

Still, having 5 German teams in the Champions League was a success on its own.

Only one Bundesliga club made it into the top 8 which is still good, and I am happy its club is Leverkusen.
However, I am still confident that Bayern will qualify for the next round, they will qualify from the playoffs. Dortmund? I have a bad feeling about them, this season is not theirs.
And yeah, five Bundesliga clubs qualifying for the Champions League is a success for German football.

[ajiz138]

Only one Bundesliga club made it into the top 8 which is still good, and I am happy its club is Leverkusen.
However, I am still confident that Bayern will qualify for the next round, they will qualify from the playoffs. Dortmund? I have a bad feeling about them, this season is not theirs.
And yeah, five Bundesliga clubs qualifying for the Champions League is a success for German football.

Leverkusen managed to secure themselves in the round of 16, Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund had to be in the play-off round, while the other 2 teams Stuttgart and Leipzig were eliminated in the league round.

Since last season, since Leverkusen managed to become champions, I was curious whether they could talk a lot in the Champions League or not, but for now they have proven themselves by being in the round of 16, this is a good start and they can go further.

[pawel7777]

Any thoughts on betting on Dortmund in today's game against Heidenheim?
The odds are decent, x1.77 (x4.50 for Heidenheim). It's a fact that Dortmund is in four league games without a win streak, and, considering all competitions, they've only won twice in the last 10 games, but, as they say, the team is as good as their last performance and Dortmund did beat Shakhtar Donetsk in their last game (final round of the league stage of the Champions League).
Heidenheim is in the bottom 3 with over 68% loss ratio. A potential draw could be of concern, but Heidenheim only drew twice in the league this season. It's a type of team that either wins or loses.

[Rruchi man]

Any thoughts on betting on Dortmund in today's game against Heidenheim?
The odds are decent, x1.77 (x4.50 for Heidenheim). It's a fact that Dortmund is in four league games without a win streak, and, considering all competitions, they've only won twice in the last 10 games, but, as they say, the team is as good as their last performance and Dortmund did beat Shakhtar Donetsk in their last game (final round of the league stage of the Champions League).
Heidenheim is in the bottom 3 with over 68% loss ratio. A potential draw could be of concern, but Heidenheim only drew twice in the league this season. It's a type of team that either wins or loses.

Dortmund went on to win their game, a good result for the new coach, who just joined the team, and a motivation for the players in the team to try to make sure that they can make qualifications for any of the European competitions. Dortmund were in a better position last season and were doing much better than they are currently. The new coach sparks up new hope for the club; the supporters will be expecting more wins from this.