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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2024, 09:33:12 PM »
Not barely 48hrs the price of bitcoin moves from 52k to 60k like I was mean to asked if there is any positive news that gives rise to this sudden increase, though wasn't expecting bitcoin price to remain stationary but they way it moves seriously increased without any delay or is there any whale that came to buy at huge? Please if there is any news that relates to sudden increase don't hesitate to share here.
Those who are doing DCA have also made some cool cash in between this shortest time frame as the price seems to be manipulative.

Sudden price moves like this always put a smile on the face of those using DCA if they get to enter just at the price before the pump begins. It is a very big move from $52K - $60K but to some investors that don’t have enough of bitcoin in their portfolio will not see any significant move or impact in this move, but it’s surely worth a move and a lot of profit generated by big whales. The bitcoin market is not that which can be manipulated in my opinion, this is not a pump and dump coin or anything that looks like it. It just happens, the laws of demand and supply sets in, and it has impact in the market and hence the sudden move that made it skyrocket within a short time period.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2024, 10:15:23 PM »
The bitcoin market is bigger than any manipulations, so instead of focusing on the temporary market sentiment, the big focus should be on the wider elements that make up for the immediate bitcoin price, and how long such element can hold bitcoin price in such a direction.

Sometimes, some people believe in news to be a major market determinants, other time, we traders and market people also push bitcoin in a particular direction from our activities in the market.
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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2024, 10:31:32 PM »
The bitcoin market is bigger than any manipulations, so instead of focusing on the temporary market sentiment, the big focus should be on the wider elements that make up for the immediate bitcoin price, and how long such element can hold bitcoin price in such a direction.

Sometimes, some people believe in news to be a major market determinants, other time, we traders and market people also push bitcoin in a particular direction from our activities in the market.

Whales control bitcoin, isnt ETF yet, but the whales control it very well, and they do whatever they wanna to do, the last days Futures were always dumping to SPOT ETF buy low... there werent bad news to make bitcoin break the way it had broken, this is the range 50k-70k. One thing is sure the higger bitcoin goes the bigger mooves it will make, for both directions, leverage isnt our friend at all.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2024, 10:54:39 PM »
Whales control bitcoin, isnt ETF yet, but the whales control it very well, and they do whatever they wanna to do, the last days Futures were always dumping to SPOT ETF buy low... there werent bad news to make bitcoin break the way it had broken, this is the range 50k-70k. One thing is sure the higger bitcoin goes the bigger mooves it will make, for both directions, leverage isnt our friend at all.
I won't gonna fully agree with you because it is true that whales can have some impact on market but they don't have very well types control otherwise there won't see anything on cryptocurrency market.
We have seen that multiple times that for the whales movements there have the impact on cryptocurrency market bitcoin market. But most of the times it couldn't be sustain, the impact always for a few time. Because when whales want to manipulate the market they also have to get the response from the market and not always the market of huge people give them positive signal.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2024, 11:39:11 PM »

I won't gonna fully agree with you because it is true that whales can have some impact on market but they don't have very well types control otherwise there won't see anything on cryptocurrency market.
We have seen that multiple times that for the whales movements there have the impact on cryptocurrency market bitcoin market. But most of the times it couldn't be sustain, the impact always for a few time. Because when whales want to manipulate the market they also have to get the response from the market and not always the market of huge people give them positive signal.

Whales manipulating the market has been going on for a long time in the crypto world and I think not only in the crypto market but almost all markets. They can make the price of bitcoin and altcoins drop but it is only temporary. Because the market response will not last long, if the whales and the money they use to play in the market are not large. The market will return to normal. We understand that what influences market prices is demand and supply.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2024, 12:15:07 AM »
Bitcoin price is not being manipulated like the way some of the altcoins were, one of the things to firstly consider in this is the fact that bitcoin uses PoW and not PoS, the other is the nature of it network, you cannot compare a decentralized digital network to that which is centralized, we can also discover more about knowing deep insights from what Bitcoin network is all about and the nodes functions, all will point to the fact that bitcoin is not being manipulated.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2024, 04:33:01 PM »
Bitcoin price is not being manipulated like the way some of the altcoins were, one of the things to firstly consider in this is the fact that bitcoin uses PoW and not PoS, the other is the nature of it network, you cannot compare a decentralized digital network to that which is centralized, we can also discover more about knowing deep insights from what Bitcoin network is all about and the nodes functions, all will point to the fact that bitcoin is not being manipulated.
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What happens if whale dump bitcoin in Large quantity like the Germans or Mt.Gox what can we talk about this? Is this not manipulation sir?
Well, all cryptocurrency coin can be manipulated provided that is tradable and people are buying it holding and trading it could be manipulated, manipulation doesn't really mean that price must fall drastically but at least you can't imagine what truly effects or affects the market.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2024, 05:21:58 PM »
         -      Maybe the bitcoin price can only be controlled well if all the whale investors get together and agree on when to sell their bitcoins at the same time and when to buy them at the same time. That's why not all whale investors are of the same mind when they buy or sell.

There are others who will sell a large amount of bitcoin, while other whales see that when they see a small or large percentage drop, they will pay a large amount as well and then hold it long-term.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #38 on: August 14, 2024, 10:46:50 PM »
Whales manipulating the market has been going on for a long time in the crypto world and I think not only in the crypto market but almost all markets. They can make the price of bitcoin and altcoins drop but it is only temporary. Because the market response will not last long, if the whales and the money they use to play in the market are not large. The market will return to normal. We understand that what influences market prices is demand and supply.
You have also pointed out a good things. Lots of peoples have the FUD in mine about the cryptocurrency that it is easily manipulated by the big whales. But they also can't ignore that whole world in all sector like Medical to the Hardware , Tech , Agree cultural in all sector the whale does manipulate to fill their own interest. But I can say those  sectors are more hostage by the whales.
Becasue in crypto currency there have the decentralized eco system where even then they want to make sustainability to their manipulation on the market but failed because of the large peoples takes.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2024, 10:56:41 PM »
Not barely 48hrs the price of bitcoin moves from 52k to 60k like I was mean to asked if there is any positive news that gives rise to this sudden increase, though wasn't expecting bitcoin price to remain stationary but they way it moves seriously increased without any delay or is there any whale that came to buy at huge? Please if there is any news that relates to sudden increase don't hesitate to share here.
Those who are doing DCA have also made some cool cash in between this shortest time frame as the price seems to be manipulative.
DCA never made any gain unless the investor's plan fall into the time when the price was $52k. But the movement is f Bitcoin these days are purely.foe the short term investors. And many of us don't know how the market is like this in the recent time.
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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2024, 11:39:28 PM »
I won't gonna fully agree with you because it is true that whales can have some impact on market but they don't have very well types control otherwise there won't see anything on cryptocurrency market.
Whales manipulating the market has been going on for a long time in the crypto world and I think not only in the crypto market but almost all markets. They can make the price of bitcoin and altcoins drop but it is only temporary. Because the market response will not last long, if the whales and the money they use to play in the market are not large. The market will return to normal. We understand that what influences market prices is demand and supply.
Indeed, Although basically, the Bitcoin market may be considered different, centralized, and none is controlling, but in essence, it really depends on how whales intervene in the movement of Bitcoin in the market.

We as traders or small investors are only a small part of the market. While whales, they really have a much larger amount of Bitcoin. and they have the power for that. We often see how they hold the price from rising again at a certain number. We often see that FUD is often blown at certain times. and we often see how pump and dump happen quickly, even though there is a lot of good fundamental news, but when they start manipulating the market to drop, yes it will drop. then they take advantage by buying at a lower price.

Maybe supply and demand are the main influences on Bitcoin market conditions. However, what if they were the ones who controlled the supply and demand to match the direction of the market movement that they wanted?
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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2024, 11:54:46 PM »
Not barely 48hrs the price of bitcoin moves from 52k to 60k like I was mean to asked if there is any positive news that gives rise to this sudden increase, though wasn't expecting bitcoin price to remain stationary but they way it moves seriously increased without any delay or is there any whale that came to buy at huge? Please if there is any news that relates to sudden increase don't hesitate to share here.
Those who are doing DCA have also made some cool cash in between this shortest time frame as the price seems to be manipulative.
DCA never made any gain unless the investor's plan fall into the time when the price was $52k. But the movement is f Bitcoin these days are purely.foe the short term investors. And many of us don't know how the market is like this in the recent time.
I believe those who truly knows what they are doing its very much easier for them to make profits through DCA and of course DCA'ing gives you profit when the price of bitcoin has soared about the current price to something much better.
People who are not DCA'ing could like stand a better chance to lose their investment when the market is down but believe professional investors and traders knows what they are doing to make profits.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #42 on: August 15, 2024, 03:08:32 AM »
Sometimes, some people believe in news to be a major market determinants, other time, we traders and market people also push bitcoin in a particular direction from our activities in the market.
News is one way to manipulate the market, while actual market activity does control the direction of the market... but it's not that big unless whales are present at the time. Bitcoin's daily trading volume is around $30 billion per day, while the unexposed rich have more than that, and if there is a merger like a whale group, it will make it easier for pumps and dumps because there are more assets available. Other mechanisms we may not know much about, but I definitely still believe in market manipulation in all aspects of trading, including Bitcoin.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2024, 08:41:58 AM »
I am sure that they manipulate absolutely any things that we see and know, what can we say about Bitcoin, of course they manipulate it and very strongly, it just can’t go up and down all the time, the price would always be the same, and that We see that the price goes up and goes down in equal proportions, you shouldn’t bother your head with this, you just need to know one rule, that when the price goes down, it will soon go up))

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2024, 12:49:19 PM »
If you believe in the Tether conspiracy theories then you'd think that they might be able to manipulate the Bitcoin price. You'd think that they would get something from raising or lowering the price but actually what happens is that there is no plan. It is just extremely volatile and it goes in whatever direction it wants.
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