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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #150 on: October 09, 2024, 02:30:14 PM »
Waiting requires patience and the DCA method teaches us to wait for our assets to grow by buying gradually. for investors who hold long term also have high patience with free capital, because patience will be tested when we are faced with needs.
I also believe that DCA is the optimal strategy for newbies to invest in BTC. Macro or technical analysis can be overly complex for most, but we all have the same amount of time. Whales may manipulate BTC, but in the long term, BTC price consistently rises, and long-term investors using DCA will profit.

With the recent introduction of BTC-related products like spot ETFs, many argue that BTC price has become more independent in its fluctuations. However, I believe this is still not the case as BTC price can still easily swing by a few dozen percent in a month.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #151 on: October 09, 2024, 02:58:47 PM »
Waiting requires patience and the DCA method teaches us to wait for our assets to grow by buying gradually. for investors who hold long term also have high patience with free capital, because patience will be tested when we are faced with needs.
I also believe that DCA is the optimal strategy for newbies to invest in BTC. Macro or technical analysis can be overly complex for most, but we all have the same amount of time. Whales may manipulate BTC, but in the long term, BTC price consistently rises, and long-term investors using DCA will profit.

With the recent introduction of BTC-related products like spot ETFs, many argue that BTC price has become more independent in its fluctuations. However, I believe this is still not the case as BTC price can still easily swing by a few dozen percent in a month.
Well, unfortunately, what you and I believe may likely not be the reality, when the bitcoin spot ETF was approved, I guess that was supposed to act as a message to the crypto community that the government have taken notice of bitcoin and have possibly added it to their list of investible assets, and one thing that is very common with all governments around the world is that, they like to control the price of assets, especially the ones they have invested in.

Now, I am not saying that the government are controlling the price  of bitcoin, which in other words is known as manipulation, but you and I know it's very possible and we can't entirely rule out the possibility looking at how stagnant bitcoin price became after the approval of the spot ETF and the short rise we saw..
Did you notice that ETH didnt make any upward move after it's ETF was approved?
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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #152 on: October 09, 2024, 11:40:41 PM »
I also believe that DCA is the optimal strategy for newbies to invest in BTC. Macro or technical analysis can be overly complex for most, but we all have the same amount of time. Whales may manipulate BTC, but in the long term, BTC price consistently rises, and long-term investors using DCA will profit.
Yes indeed, DCA is the most appropriate choice for me personally and especially for beginners to avoid the risk of losing much more. Yes, if it can actually make our assets even more threatened if we do not consider saving more.

DCA can at least also help us to increase our investment asset accumulation but in crypto with DCA optimization. However, if you force trading, then yes we must be able to learn analysis techniques which I think are also very complex and difficult to understand and teach.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #153 on: October 09, 2024, 11:46:39 PM »
I also believe that DCA is the optimal strategy for newbies to invest in BTC. Macro or technical analysis can be overly complex for most, but we all have the same amount of time. Whales may manipulate BTC, but in the long term, BTC price consistently rises, and long-term investors using DCA will profit.
Yes indeed, DCA is the most appropriate choice for me personally and especially for beginners to avoid the risk of losing much more. Yes, if it can actually make our assets even more threatened if we do not consider saving more.

DCA can at least also help us to increase our investment asset accumulation but in crypto with DCA optimization. However, if you force trading, then yes we must be able to learn analysis techniques which I think are also very complex and difficult to understand and teach.
DCA also suits me, because I also do it and it is an effective way to increase the number of crypto assets by buying potential coins gradually, little by little because of the limited funds we have.
Trading can be done by learning and starting to practice in order to have knowledge and skills.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #154 on: October 10, 2024, 05:01:54 AM »
I also believe that DCA is the optimal strategy for newbies to invest in BTC. Macro or technical analysis can be overly complex for most, but we all have the same amount of time. Whales may manipulate BTC, but in the long term, BTC price consistently rises, and long-term investors using DCA will profit.
Yes indeed, DCA is the most appropriate choice for me personally and especially for beginners to avoid the risk of losing much more. Yes, if it can actually make our assets even more threatened if we do not consider saving more.

DCA can at least also help us to increase our investment asset accumulation but in crypto with DCA optimization. However, if you force trading, then yes we must be able to learn analysis techniques which I think are also very complex and difficult to understand and teach.
DCA also suits me, because I also do it and it is an effective way to increase the number of crypto assets by buying potential coins gradually, little by little because of the limited funds we have.
Trading can be done by learning and starting to practice in order to have knowledge and skills.
Well, DCA strategy is helpful for saving money and acquiring assets step by step, there are some disadvantages in it. Thus, DCA is not always the best strategy depending on the structure and fluctuations of specific markets, provided that over the long term the prices of the specific asset are continuing to fall. In this case, DCA may lead to acquirement at other inferior price points. Moreover, the accumulation of such capital is not quick to bring in revenues if the invested asset remains stagnant for awhile.

Also thinking in terms of a mixed type, most likely, turns out to be a more suitable option. That said, we can keep applying DCA to simple technical analysis to try to identify better levels to enter, for example, when the asset is near a support level. This makes it possible for us to get the advantages of DCA while at the same time being able to form an extensive response to the market price fluctuations. With this, we can be wiser in deploying scarce capital and enhance returns on the highly volatile and dynamic market of crypto.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #155 on: October 10, 2024, 06:58:18 AM »

Well, DCA strategy is helpful for saving money and acquiring assets step by step, there are some disadvantages in it. Thus, DCA is not always the best strategy depending on the structure and fluctuations of specific markets, provided that over the long term the prices of the specific asset are continuing to fall. In this case, DCA may lead to acquirement at other inferior price points. Moreover, the accumulation of such capital is not quick to bring in revenues if the invested asset remains stagnant for awhile.

Also thinking in terms of a mixed type, most likely, turns out to be a more suitable option. That said, we can keep applying DCA to simple technical analysis to try to identify better levels to enter, for example, when the asset is near a support level. This makes it possible for us to get the advantages of DCA while at the same time being able to form an extensive response to the market price fluctuations. With this, we can be wiser in deploying scarce capital and enhance returns on the highly volatile and dynamic market of crypto.
The most appropriate DCA is done 1-2 years ago during the bearish season because we will get a lower price because the market conditions are still bearish. For now the price is high but the DCA method is still relevant because the bullish season will occur next year. so the possibility of getting profit is still there if we make a purchase now.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #156 on: October 11, 2024, 11:40:41 PM »

Well, DCA strategy is helpful for saving money and acquiring assets step by step, there are some disadvantages in it. Thus, DCA is not always the best strategy depending on the structure and fluctuations of specific markets, provided that over the long term the prices of the specific asset are continuing to fall. In this case, DCA may lead to acquirement at other inferior price points. Moreover, the accumulation of such capital is not quick to bring in revenues if the invested asset remains stagnant for awhile.

Also thinking in terms of a mixed type, most likely, turns out to be a more suitable option. That said, we can keep applying DCA to simple technical analysis to try to identify better levels to enter, for example, when the asset is near a support level. This makes it possible for us to get the advantages of DCA while at the same time being able to form an extensive response to the market price fluctuations. With this, we can be wiser in deploying scarce capital and enhance returns on the highly volatile and dynamic market of crypto.
The most appropriate DCA is done 1-2 years ago during the bearish season because we will get a lower price because the market conditions are still bearish. For now the price is high but the DCA method is still relevant because the bullish season will occur next year. so the possibility of getting profit is still there if we make a purchase now.
There are a number of factors that should be taken into consideration while defining a particular trading plan, personality or preferences being among them. Actually, short term trading can be quite rewarding, especially if one feels safe and comfortable with risk and has time to engage himself in trading. But in case, if one does not have ample time or lacks sufficient knowledge about how to go about with trading, the best way to go would be Investing for the long term. This gives the chance to increase profits step by step without constantly paying attention to competitors. However, on the one hand, short-term trading and, on the other hand, long-term investment involve quantifiable risks and good time division depending on the personal situation and needs.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #157 on: October 12, 2024, 01:45:05 PM »

There are a number of factors that should be taken into consideration while defining a particular trading plan, personality or preferences being among them. Actually, short term trading can be quite rewarding, especially if one feels safe and comfortable with risk and has time to engage himself in trading. But in case, if one does not have ample time or lacks sufficient knowledge about how to go about with trading, the best way to go would be Investing for the long term. This gives the chance to increase profits step by step without constantly paying attention to competitors. However, on the one hand, short-term trading and, on the other hand, long-term investment involve quantifiable risks and good time division depending on the personal situation and needs.
Long-term investing is always a good choice for those who are busy in the real world so they can't trade, because trading requires focus by always monitoring the market, making analysis and this requires good experience and knowledge. many people prefer to hold because they don't have the knowledge and experience in trading, so as you said, they need comfort in trading.
So if you feel comfortable with trading, we can choose that, but if we don't have time to do it, being a holder is also a good choice.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #158 on: October 12, 2024, 10:07:01 PM »
It looks like the crowd is now unconsciously pushing the Bitcoin price up, because everyone knew in advance that UPtober is a month of growth and profit. And you must agree that such crowd warming up is very similar to mass manipulation, albeit unconscious. Therefore, I believe that the market is now manipulating itself.
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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #159 on: October 13, 2024, 07:48:10 AM »

There are a number of factors that should be taken into consideration while defining a particular trading plan, personality or preferences being among them. Actually, short term trading can be quite rewarding, especially if one feels safe and comfortable with risk and has time to engage himself in trading. But in case, if one does not have ample time or lacks sufficient knowledge about how to go about with trading, the best way to go would be Investing for the long term. This gives the chance to increase profits step by step without constantly paying attention to competitors. However, on the one hand, short-term trading and, on the other hand, long-term investment involve quantifiable risks and good time division depending on the personal situation and needs.
Long-term investing is always a good choice for those who are busy in the real world so they can't trade, because trading requires focus by always monitoring the market, making analysis and this requires good experience and knowledge. many people prefer to hold because they don't have the knowledge and experience in trading, so as you said, they need comfort in trading.
So if you feel comfortable with trading, we can choose that, but if we don't have time to do it, being a holder is also a good choice.
Well, For these who lack time or experience for frequent operations on the stock market and choosing a holding strategy is right for them. They can get out of the anxiety of having to stay abreast of markets and having to make fast decisions that often stem out of emotions. This strategy also avails a chance to make a call on the potential for appreciation of the assets in the long run without coming across daily volatility in prices. But it is still recommended to pay a lot of attention to the analysis and be aware of the basic fundamentals of the assets which are invested in order to base a decision to hold on strong long-term perspectives. For those who wish to engage in trading they can gradually learn it as one invests while building a long-term portfolio so that both cannot be unbalanced according to one’s preference or necessity.
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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #160 on: October 14, 2024, 05:30:45 PM »
I agree with you we must be disciplined in investment because this is important, but patience is the most important. Because patience will produce greater profits. The DCA method is the result of patience. Because we collect potential coins in a way to be able to add to our coin coin collection, this is done for a long time.

I am a person who finds it difficult to be patient, but I have learned that in bitcoin technology and everything that has to do with crypto sometimes you have to be very patient in order to achieve benefits, but the only way I learned is when things happened to me, for example one day I invested and because I was in a hurry, I withdrew the money and about an hour after withdrawing my money, the bitcoin went up in price, and obviously I had lost and that was something that made me angry but with myself, so that was the way I learned that sometimes with haste nothing productive is achieved.
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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #161 on: October 15, 2024, 08:06:09 PM »
It looks like the crowd is now unconsciously pushing the Bitcoin price up, because everyone knew in advance that UPtober is a month of growth and profit. And you must agree that such crowd warming up is very similar to mass manipulation, albeit unconscious. Therefore, I believe that the market is now manipulating itself.
October is the same as Uptober, so you think it's the month to increase the price of Bitcoin in various markets, right?
And what do you mean by the market manipulating itself? Does Bitcoin already have its own to manipulate or what do you think?
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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #162 on: October 15, 2024, 08:38:12 PM »
It looks like the crowd is now unconsciously pushing the Bitcoin price up, because everyone knew in advance that UPtober is a month of growth and profit. And you must agree that such crowd warming up is very similar to mass manipulation, albeit unconscious. Therefore, I believe that the market is now manipulating itself.
October is the same as Uptober, so you think it's the month to increase the price of Bitcoin in various markets, right?
And what do you mean by the market manipulating itself? Does Bitcoin already have its own to manipulate or what do you think?
Maybe he is referring to something like Butcoin itself attracted more investors this time because they anticipate the upcoming bullrun that might happen anytime soon and investors doesn't wanna miss this opportunity just like what had happened way back in 2017 when price surge at year end.

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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #163 on: October 15, 2024, 10:03:28 PM »
It looks like the crowd is now unconsciously pushing the Bitcoin price up, because everyone knew in advance that UPtober is a month of growth and profit. And you must agree that such crowd warming up is very similar to mass manipulation, albeit unconscious. Therefore, I believe that the market is now manipulating itself.
Lolz 😂, you are very funny man, how can the market manipulate itself? Does the market now have a mind and abilities of its own? I believe not.
If you think current crypto currency market is manipulated,, it's people, traders and investors doing that, the market can never manipulate itself.

And let me also say that what you said about uptober or October (whichever one choose to refer to it as) is wrong. There is no where it is written and stamped that the market will always go up in the month of October, every one referring to this month as uptober - assuming the price of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies to rise, is only speculating, there is no assurance or guarantee that that will happen In this month.
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Re: is bitcoin price being manipulated?
« Reply #164 on: October 16, 2024, 08:29:39 AM »
It looks like the crowd is now unconsciously pushing the Bitcoin price up, because everyone knew in advance that UPtober is a month of growth and profit. And you must agree that such crowd warming up is very similar to mass manipulation, albeit unconscious. Therefore, I believe that the market is now manipulating itself.
Lolz 😂, you are very funny man, how can the market manipulate itself? Does the market now have a mind and abilities of its own? I believe not.
If you think current crypto currency market is manipulated,, it's people, traders and investors doing that, the market can never manipulate itself.

And let me also say that what you said about uptober or October (whichever one choose to refer to it as) is wrong. There is no where it is written and stamped that the market will always go up in the month of October, every one referring to this month as uptober - assuming the price of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies to rise, is only speculating, there is no assurance or guarantee that that will happen In this month.
I see many people referring to the Uptober phenomenon or more clearly the bullish moment when October is from the Bitcoin Monthly Return report circulating on the internet... yes, even though from the data from 2013 until now there have been 2x Octobers that experienced a correction period and did not produce any gain... the same as February

however, several times ATHs were formed more often at the end of the year, and it was closer and could be prepared since October

this does not make sense, and maybe this analysis only uses feelings, we consider it something fun hahaha

 

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