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Re: Long term Bitcoin holding or short term trading
« Reply #105 on: September 06, 2024, 02:21:09 PM »
If we are trapped in market manipulation, all we can do is wait for the market to improve again. Daily trading can be done if the market conditions are good and we can target a profit of 5%. but if we do not have the time and expertise in targeting we can choose long-term hold.
Indeed. When the market crashed and we have no way to sell our coins, the only way is to wait for a pump. There should be time that the market will show better trends. The drop must be a temporary only. If we are trapped in some coins, we can hold the coins until the prices increasing again. As long as we are holding trusted coins, it we shouldn't be so afraid to hold them for a longer time.

Daily trading is just another option for earning money. But it requires a good knowledge in trading, proper analysis, and the specific skills. It is better to not trading daily if we don't have the knowledge, skills, and ability of analyzing charts.
when the market crashes the only way if our capital is limited is to wait for the price of the coins we hold to rise, but if I have free funds I will trade because the price is falling and we can buy coins that we think have potential and are likely to rise quickly.
Exactly, by surviving we still have the opportunity to make a profit until the coin price rises again. Buying coins again when the price is falling is very good, but we have to know that we don't know whether the coin price collapse has finished or is still ongoing. If we get trapped deeper it will make us depressed and life will become uneasy.

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Re: Long term Bitcoin holding or short term trading
« Reply #106 on: September 06, 2024, 03:28:11 PM »


when the market crashes the only way if our capital is limited is to wait for the price of the coins we hold to rise, but if I have free funds I will trade because the price is falling and we can buy coins that we think have potential and are likely to rise quickly.
Exactly, by surviving we still have the opportunity to make a profit until the coin price rises again. Buying coins again when the price is falling is very good, but we have to know that we don't know whether the coin price collapse has finished or is still ongoing. If we get trapped deeper it will make us depressed and life will become uneasy.
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Actually, if we still have capital, we can buy gradually if we still have doubts, whether we buy at the bottom price or the coin price will go down again. because the reality is very difficult to determine the price because the market is difficult to predict, I prefer to buy when I feel the price is low by looking at the bitcoin price at that time.
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Re: Long term Bitcoin holding or short term trading
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Re: Long term Bitcoin holding or short term trading
« Reply #107 on: September 07, 2024, 02:01:05 PM »
I used to think that the best way to make money on Bitcoin is to just hold it. But after the price fell by 70 percent from the maximum, I realized that I was stupid. I did not withdraw money, but simply slept through the moment when I needed to transfer all Bitcoin to stablecoins. So my answer: buy and sell Bitcoin. It's bad decision to hold it mindlessly hoping for 500k.
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Re: Long term Bitcoin holding or short term trading
« Reply #108 on: September 07, 2024, 03:04:55 PM »
I used to think that the best way to make money on Bitcoin is to just hold it. But after the price fell by 70 percent from the maximum, I realized that I was stupid. I did not withdraw money, but simply slept through the moment when I needed to transfer all Bitcoin to stablecoins. So my answer: buy and sell Bitcoin. It's bad decision to hold it mindlessly hoping for 500k.
I agree with you, the best way to get big profits from investing in bitcoin is to buy and sell at the right time because the crypto market will always experience corrections, it is better to buy when the price goes down and hold until the price goes up, and sell when we feel we have made a profit, we can do that repeatedly and not just buy and wait for a long time, because the profit is greater if we always trade.

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Re: Long term Bitcoin holding or short term trading
« Reply #109 on: September 08, 2024, 09:24:07 AM »
I used to think that the best way to make money on Bitcoin is to just hold it. But after the price fell by 70 percent from the maximum, I realized that I was stupid. I did not withdraw money, but simply slept through the moment when I needed to transfer all Bitcoin to stablecoins. So my answer: buy and sell Bitcoin. It's bad decision to hold it mindlessly hoping for 500k.
I agree with you, the best way to get big profits from investing in bitcoin is to buy and sell at the right time because the crypto market will always experience corrections, it is better to buy when the price goes down and hold until the price goes up, and sell when we feel we have made a profit, we can do that repeatedly and not just buy and wait for a long time, because the profit is greater if we always trade.
Indeed the active strategy apropos the buying and selling of bitcoin through market timing is one intelligent way of boosting the chance of making profits on investment in cryptos. If investors can closely observe the changes in the price and learn to act accordingly, then they can adjust the returns they receive on their investments. However, it is also necessary to carry out further risk assessment and be equipped with a reasonable contingency plan to effectively control the market risk well so as to achieve a minimum possible loss in trading.

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Re: Long term Bitcoin holding or short term trading
« Reply #110 on: September 08, 2024, 12:02:01 PM »
I used to think that the best way to make money on Bitcoin is to just hold it. But after the price fell by 70 percent from the maximum, I realized that I was stupid. I did not withdraw money, but simply slept through the moment when I needed to transfer all Bitcoin to stablecoins. So my answer: buy and sell Bitcoin. It's bad decision to hold it mindlessly hoping for 500k.
I agree with you, the best way to get big profits from investing in bitcoin is to buy and sell at the right time because the crypto market will always experience corrections, it is better to buy when the price goes down and hold until the price goes up, and sell when we feel we have made a profit, we can do that repeatedly and not just buy and wait for a long time, because the profit is greater if we always trade.
Yeah agree, I have been holding my Altcoins long term but the thing is that it already has profit when prices goes up but I still keep on holding and I regret not taking profit because it was now down for awhile and still no signs of going up. 😅

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Re: Long term Bitcoin holding or short term trading
« Reply #111 on: September 08, 2024, 12:37:01 PM »
I used to think that the best way to make money on Bitcoin is to just hold it. But after the price fell by 70 percent from the maximum, I realized that I was stupid. I did not withdraw money, but simply slept through the moment when I needed to transfer all Bitcoin to stablecoins. So my answer: buy and sell Bitcoin. It's bad decision to hold it mindlessly hoping for 500k.
I agree with you, the best way to get big profits from investing in bitcoin is to buy and sell at the right time because the crypto market will always experience corrections, it is better to buy when the price goes down and hold until the price goes up, and sell when we feel we have made a profit, we can do that repeatedly and not just buy and wait for a long time, because the profit is greater if we always trade.

That's right, that's why I always look with doubt at crypto guys who buy Bitcoin and wait for a big price. They thus miss out on all the profit from price movements. I understand that for this you need to learn to predict the price. But if a trader has an understanding of support and resistance levels, then he will be able to make a Profit.
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Re: Long term Bitcoin holding or short term trading
« Reply #112 on: September 10, 2024, 11:34:56 PM »
I used to think that the best way to make money on Bitcoin is to just hold it. But after the price fell by 70 percent from the maximum, I realized that I was stupid. I did not withdraw money, but simply slept through the moment when I needed to transfer all Bitcoin to stablecoins. So my answer: buy and sell Bitcoin. It's bad decision to hold it mindlessly hoping for 500k.
I agree with you, the best way to get big profits from investing in bitcoin is to buy and sell at the right time because the crypto market will always experience corrections, it is better to buy when the price goes down and hold until the price goes up, and sell when we feel we have made a profit, we can do that repeatedly and not just buy and wait for a long time, because the profit is greater if we always trade.

That's right, that's why I always look with doubt at crypto guys who buy Bitcoin and wait for a big price. They thus miss out on all the profit from price movements. I understand that for this you need to learn to predict the price. But if a trader has an understanding of support and resistance levels, then he will be able to make a Profit.
I do medium term trading and when the crypto market is suitable for short term trading I will do it. Because I am not a person who buys bitcoin and waits for the long term, but a person who buys and sells when I have reached my desired profit target. I always take advantage of bitcoin price movements, because I will get a lot of profit from that method.

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Re: Long term Bitcoin holding or short term trading
« Reply #113 on: September 11, 2024, 04:22:44 AM »
I do medium term trading and when the crypto market is suitable for short term trading I will do it. Because I am not a person who buys bitcoin and waits for the long term, but a person who buys and sells when I have reached my desired profit target. I always take advantage of bitcoin price movements, because I will get a lot of profit from that method.
Indeed, this method may turn out to be very profitable if it is possible to use the movement of the market for some advantage. In medium-term trading, there is space to adapt in case the market changes, while in short-term trading, you can specifically make money on daily price oscillations, which are characteristic of the cryptocurrency market. So long as a person is able to dedicate sufficient time and attention to the markets and setting clear profit objectives this method can be very efficient in generating the greatest potential of trades.

In fact, this strategy is based on risk management and perfect knowledge of the shifts in the market trends. With the help of these two approaches, you are able to get better profit margins without over-commitment to positions that may not suit the current market conditions. Particularly when a crypto market is unstable, such an approach can indeed be useful.

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Re: Long term Bitcoin holding or short term trading
« Reply #114 on: September 11, 2024, 07:24:07 AM »
I do medium term trading and when the crypto market is suitable for short term trading I will do it. Because I am not a person who buys bitcoin and waits for the long term, but a person who buys and sells when I have reached my desired profit target. I always take advantage of bitcoin price movements, because I will get a lot of profit from that method.

The most important thing is that you have your own strategy and if you have been using it for a long time and it is simple, then you are doing everything right, I am sure that there is no need to invent something new, the income that comes from this is enough.

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Re: Long term Bitcoin holding or short term trading
« Reply #115 on: September 13, 2024, 10:15:34 PM »
I used to think that the best way to make money on Bitcoin is to just hold it. But after the price fell by 70 percent from the maximum, I realized that I was stupid. I did not withdraw money, but simply slept through the moment when I needed to transfer all Bitcoin to stablecoins. So my answer: buy and sell Bitcoin. It's bad decision to hold it mindlessly hoping for 500k.
I agree with you, the best way to get big profits from investing in bitcoin is to buy and sell at the right time because the crypto market will always experience corrections, it is better to buy when the price goes down and hold until the price goes up, and sell when we feel we have made a profit, we can do that repeatedly and not just buy and wait for a long time, because the profit is greater if we always trade.

That's right, that's why I always look with doubt at crypto guys who buy Bitcoin and wait for a big price. They thus miss out on all the profit from price movements. I understand that for this you need to learn to predict the price. But if a trader has an understanding of support and resistance levels, then he will be able to make a Profit.
Trading in bitcoin is more profitable than just holding it long term, because we can gain profit from the volatility of bitcoin price, maybe this requires enough focus and time to always monitor the market but we also know that no effort is wasted if we focus on doing it.

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Re: Long term Bitcoin holding or short term trading
« Reply #116 on: September 13, 2024, 10:18:44 PM »
when the market crashes the only way if our capital is limited is to wait for the price of the coins we hold to rise, but if I have free funds I will trade because the price is falling and we can buy coins that we think have potential and are likely to rise quickly.
Indeed. The only way is wait and see first. We need to wait for the time when we can sell our Bitcoin and have capital again. This is actually not an effective way but it is the only way to do if we have no capital anymore. But if we have the additional capital from our jobs in real life, we don't need to wait for taking profits for having capital. And it is better to have good money management to avoid spending capital too quickly. We must spend the capital at the right time and for the right coins.

Trading in bitcoin is more profitable than just holding it long term, because we can gain profit from the volatility of bitcoin price, maybe this requires enough focus and time to always monitor the market but we also know that no effort is wasted if we focus on doing it.
For Bitcoin, I think holding is better. If we want to trade coins, it is much better to choose altcoins. Altcoins have higher volatility, it can increase faster. Meanwhile Bitcoin, it sometimes increases very slowly. It will waste time only if we only get very small profits from trading Bitcoin.


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Re: Long term Bitcoin holding or short term trading
« Reply #117 on: September 14, 2024, 12:00:54 PM »
I used to think that the best way to make money on Bitcoin is to just hold it. But after the price fell by 70 percent from the maximum, I realized that I was stupid. I did not withdraw money, but simply slept through the moment when I needed to transfer all Bitcoin to stablecoins. So my answer: buy and sell Bitcoin. It's bad decision to hold it mindlessly hoping for 500k.
I agree with you, the best way to get big profits from investing in bitcoin is to buy and sell at the right time because the crypto market will always experience corrections, it is better to buy when the price goes down and hold until the price goes up, and sell when we feel we have made a profit, we can do that repeatedly and not just buy and wait for a long time, because the profit is greater if we always trade.

That's right, that's why I always look with doubt at crypto guys who buy Bitcoin and wait for a big price. They thus miss out on all the profit from price movements. I understand that for this you need to learn to predict the price. But if a trader has an understanding of support and resistance levels, then he will be able to make a Profit.
Trading in bitcoin is more profitable than just holding it long term, because we can gain profit from the volatility of bitcoin price, maybe this requires enough focus and time to always monitor the market but we also know that no effort is wasted if we focus on doing it.

Absolutely right. And if someone invests and holds Bitcoin, he will receive Profit according to the formula: current price minus purchase price. But regarding trading - you can get Profit infinitely if the market is flat and the price moves from 50k to 70k and back. The price has been behaving approximately like this all summer, and there are traders who have earned a lot on this.
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Re: Long term Bitcoin holding or short term trading
« Reply #118 on: September 14, 2024, 08:42:44 PM »

Trading in bitcoin is more profitable than just holding it long term, because we can gain profit from the volatility of bitcoin price, maybe this requires enough focus and time to always monitor the market but we also know that no effort is wasted if we focus on doing it.

Absolutely right. And if someone invests and holds Bitcoin, he will receive Profit according to the formula: current price minus purchase price. But regarding trading - you can get Profit infinitely if the market is flat and the price moves from 50k to 70k and back. The price has been behaving approximately like this all summer, and there are traders who have earned a lot on this.
I agree with both of you, trading will be more profitable because we can take advantage of the volatility of the coins we choose to trade, we can take advantage of buying and selling many times according to market movements, while if we only hold long term we can only get one profit from buying and selling from the coins we hold, although it is safer to hold bitcoin for the long term. but if we have the time and expertise in trading we should do trading.

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Re: Long term Bitcoin holding or short term trading
« Reply #119 on: September 16, 2024, 04:07:21 PM »

Trading in bitcoin is more profitable than just holding it long term, because we can gain profit from the volatility of bitcoin price, maybe this requires enough focus and time to always monitor the market but we also know that no effort is wasted if we focus on doing it.

Absolutely right. And if someone invests and holds Bitcoin, he will receive Profit according to the formula: current price minus purchase price. But regarding trading - you can get Profit infinitely if the market is flat and the price moves from 50k to 70k and back. The price has been behaving approximately like this all summer, and there are traders who have earned a lot on this.
I agree with both of you, trading will be more profitable because we can take advantage of the volatility of the coins we choose to trade, we can take advantage of buying and selling many times according to market movements, while if we only hold long term we can only get one profit from buying and selling from the coins we hold, although it is safer to hold bitcoin for the long term. but if we have the time and expertise in trading we should do trading.
Yes long term bitcoin holding can be relatively more suitable for an investor with higher profit potential. For trading you should first have a decent bitcoin holding and tend to withdraw at most 25% of bitcoin every year on the every of ATH touch so that there is an independent combination of capital invested and profit. At the same time the trend of depositing bitcoins should be kept regularly and keep oneself more positive to increase the holding.

You must follow a constructive approach to acquire trading skills and your investment success depends on that strategy.
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