What's the penalty for having multiple accounts connected?

[Z-tight]

There was a famous case of a user who cheated CM campaign and earned tons of BTC with his multiple accounts. I could add 3 users to best campaign, wtf!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5313637

Checking this link, now that is quite a farm, but things are different in this forum, the motivation to do that is less here, because there are only a few campaigns and none is paying anything close to the campaign you shared above. Even in BTT these days, signature campaigns is no longer as attractive as it was, after the admin banned mixing services.

[Lucius]

It's honestly hard for me to imagine (although I'm aware that they exist) those members who have multiple accounts and participate in various sig campaigns with them - because there are few who can write 100 or more quality posts per week, unless that's their only job. But it's also no secret that some members earn much more from sig campaigns than if they did a regular job in their country.

There was a famous case of a user who cheated CM campaign and earned tons of BTC with his multiple accounts. I could add 3 users to best campaign, wtf!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5313637

After years trying to join CM, I was accepted just a few days after this case was exposed...

Of course I remember that, but I wouldn't bet that it was the only case, some others were certainly much smarter and stayed in that campaign until the end with their alts. Nevertheless, it was a campaign that paid above average and everyone wanted to be a part of it, and there should be no doubt that the mentioned case is only one that used its alts.

If it were possible to compare all accounts with their real IP (if it were possible to easily bypass VPN and Tor), I think everyone would be surprised what they would find there. When it comes to money, most people are ready for anything.

[Hatchy]

Hey! I don't need to write much as the question is clearly stated in my post title.

I know this forum does not allow creating multiple accounts especially using same device but I'm yet to come across a post that clarifies the issue of operating multiple accounts.

Signature campaigns is on the increase in this forum and of course, the greedy ones will definitely want to find ways to abuse it by using several other accounts on different devices to join the campaigns the way it's happening in other platforms.
Now my question is this, what will happen if they mistakenly use same address for different accounts? If they are found guilty beyond reasonable doubt of using multiple accounts, what is the penalty?

Alot of spammers would still create these alts no matter what they implement on the forum. And somehow I feel like creating alts here and even ranking up them up would be quiet easy. Unlike btt where earning merits is a criteria for ranking up and if someone doesn't understand the system or has a motive to spam the forum it gets difficult to rank up. Also like the merit abusers are give negative stages by DT members so they would not be able to participate in any signature campaign. I think something like this would be needed on the forum too. The dot system which was introduced by the admin is something similar but then I think that they should improve more on it.

[Findingnemo]

Of course I remember that, but I wouldn't bet that it was the only case, some others were certainly much smarter and stayed in that campaign until the end with their alts. Nevertheless, it was a campaign that paid above average and everyone wanted to be a part of it, and there should be no doubt that the mentioned case is only one that used its alts.

If it were possible to compare all accounts with their real IP (if it were possible to easily bypass VPN and Tor), I think everyone would be surprised what they would find there. When it comes to money, most people are ready for anything.

Finding people using IP is definitely not everybody can do and it's easy to bypass but alts make mistakes that's how they get caught, somehow they just link them with another address via transaction is the most common way and remaining can be sharing karma by themselves which again normal users can't identify so only admin have to be working all the time to penalise the abusers.

[Mate2237]

Multiple account is allow but when the owner use it to do scam and cheating then it is an punishable offence by giving a strike of either a scammer or a cheater. But if non is found them it is only written alt to the other. But many people are having multiple accounts because of greediness to participate in one bounty campaign by depriving others to participate.

[Churchillvv]

It's only in rare occasions that you will multiple accounts for test or service reasons, hence multiple accounts are always for a sole reason of cheating.

There is no justification why someone would want to have multiple when you're not even done with one account, if anyone has such intension then it should be terminated at an early stage.

[bayu7adi]

As far as I understand, you can have multiple accounts but you shouldn't hide this information.

Just declare that it is your alt and do not abuse the system trying to duplicate your earnings when it is not allowed.

I have another account  here that is my bot

I am bitmoverbot. A bot created by bitmover to build stuff for this forum.

Do not trade with this account as it is less secure.

Creating this introduction post just to level up the account and unblock some functions.

Good.... This option seems wiser, seeing some people elsewhere also have two active accounts, one for desktop devices and the other one they access via a more vulnerable mobile device... so in my opinion, there is nothing wrong with having multiple accounts as long as the purpose is clear and more reasonable, not to abuse rules such as for farming in campaigns or bounties..

However, until now I have had enough with just one account, as recommended by the admin... I use this account on my mobile device and desktop device at the same time...

[Jokers]

Multiple account is allow but when the owner use it to do scam and cheating then it is an punishable offence by giving a strike of either a scammer or a cheater. But if non is found them it is only written alt to the other. But many people are having multiple accounts because of greediness to participate in one bounty campaign by depriving others to participate.

Undeclared multiple accounts are not allowed on the forum in any way. Better to have no more than one single account. There can be some cases when some might have a need in having an additional account, but very rare.

[bayu7adi]

Undeclared multiple accounts are not allowed on the forum in any way. Better to have no more than one single account. There can be some cases when some might have a need in having an additional account, but very rare.

Will there be a special badge for the second account that has been declared?? Considering that it is possible that someone has a strange purpose and then declares their second account and ends up abusing the bounty campaign or airdrop here, of course it requires special attention, IMO..

[Jokers]

Will there be a special badge for the second account that has been declared?? Considering that it is possible that someone has a strange purpose and then declares their second account and ends up abusing the bounty campaign or airdrop here, of course it requires special attention, IMO..

There is a badge for that purpose but it is used not each time. If the second account is for managing the official topic of some project or something like that there probably will be no special duplicate badge for it, but this account will hardly be used for anything besides the project representing. So there can be different cases.

[JoyMarsha]

It's honestly hard for me to imagine (although I'm aware that they exist) those members who have multiple accounts and participate in various sig campaigns with them - because there are few who can write 100 or more quality posts per week, unless that's their only job. But it's also no secret that some members earn much more from sig campaigns than if they did a regular job in their country.

There was a famous case of a user who cheated CM campaign and earned tons of BTC with his multiple accounts. I could add 3 users to best campaign, wtf!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5313637

After years trying to join CM, I was accepted just a few days after this case was exposed...

Upon my stay in bitcointalk, this is my first time of reading the big expose of campaign cheat that was done in there. I am just imagining how the owner of the cheat account manages to be completing all the weekly posts of those of accounts he uses to join Chipmixer. That means he's dedicating his time and all to those connected accounts without being busted as campaign cheats

[SamReomo]

But having multiple accounts without abusing the system should not be a problem, even if the user decides not to declare it, maybe the admin should slightly change this rule

In most cases multiple accounts are created to abuse the system and that's the main reason why the ones having multiple accounts try to hide their accounts. However, if someone has multiple accounts and he/she only uses those accounts fairly then there's no reason to hide those accounts as in this forum it's allowed to have up-to 3 accounts if hero rank is reached.

[bitmover]

But having multiple accounts without abusing the system should not be a problem, even if the user decides not to declare it, maybe the admin should slightly change this rule

In most cases multiple accounts are created to abuse the system and that's the main reason why the ones having multiple accounts try to hide their accounts. However, if someone has multiple accounts and he/she only uses those accounts fairly then there's no reason to hide those accounts as in this forum it's allowed to have up-to 3 accounts if hero rank is reached.

I agree. If the user won't abuse the system, there is no reason not to declare that it is an alt account.

It is not a problem to have an alt account, the problem is when you hide it to abuse the system

[albon]

I think there should be severe punishment for those people who are involved in multiple accounts and promoting the same signature. Because there are many good rank accounts here but there is not getting by signature campaign. All individuals with multiple accounts should be penalized so that everyone becomes aware in the future. I got a rules from btt forum that people who are involved with multiple accounts and if it is proven then their account is given red karma as punishment, and they can't participate in any signature campaign even if they want to.

[Faisal2202]

Apart from both the responses above you can also take a look at this thread : Multi-account penalty.

where you can notice some of them given penalty if they are using their duplicate accounts, this is not bitcointalk where multi accounts is allowed but here you can have only one account unless you reached hero member then you're allowed to have two more accounts and it should be declared as well to avid any penalty.

As discussed in this topic : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=319400.0
Every user that reaches hero rank can have 2 additional accounts that should be declared as duplicates.
Thus a total of 3 accounts that can join bounty and signature campaigns.
The bounty managers have no problem accepting the duplicates accounts if content quality is good.

So, does the admin really allow multiple accounts after becoming a hero member? Well, I think I should create two more accounts now, haha. But if I can't find the time to manage one, how will I be able to handle two more? Speaking of accounts, I actually have two already—one on BTT and one here on ALTT—and I sometimes find it difficult to post on both.

If I created two more accounts and declared them, how would other people see me? I guess I have to find out. But first, I want to know if I'll be given a tag that shows everyone I have two additional accounts. Once that tag is on my profile, how will other members trust me, or how will they perceive me?

I know signature managers have allowed alternate accounts, but let me tell you this first, Recently, Royse removed some members from the campaign for abusing it with multiple accounts and being connected. This wouldn’t have happened to them if they had just declared it beforehand. I guess they might not have been aware of this information, as I only just found out about it myself.

Why would they not declared it before? Maybe they thought mangers wouldn't accept him/her, or what?