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Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« on: August 20, 2024, 06:56:14 PM »
Just as the title says, lately people seems to be forgot about giving Karma to the users/posts that has something to contribute in the discussion.

Even though you can give unlimited Karma unless merits are scarce due to the fact you need to earn two merits to give one now why you guys are not spending much Karma when you can.

I am not encouraging abusing it to every comment but it is important to recognize the active and helpful community member that will give further push for their contribution also I reckon most spend karma not really based on the merit of the post but rather just because they like the individual which is not the right way to do it.

I really appreciate everyone's opinions on this.
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Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« on: August 20, 2024, 06:56:14 PM »

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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2024, 07:05:20 PM »
You have a point .
Karma isn't really flowing as expected  considering that it's like unlimited to give out plus you just have to be a senior member to be able to give it. Anyways let's just assume that members haven't really found attractive posts to give karma. Never the less I have also come across some members of recent that have some fancy number of karma.
Another possible explanation is probably that users aren't really taking karma too seriously since it isn't if great importance like merits on bitcoin talk and come to think of it may active members here all teleported from bitcoin talk.
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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2024, 07:14:25 PM »
I recently had a similar idea, but I didn't pursue it because we can't force people to use karma. Unlike BitcoinTalk, where merits are limited and you need to earn them before giving some out, our karma system is unlimited for senior members and above. So, when you see a deserving post, it's easy to click the karma button. It's even quicker than the merit system, which requires an extra page to input the number of merits you want to give. Let's try to make the karma system more enjoyable while it's still easier to earn.

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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2024, 07:20:20 PM »
You are not encouraging abusing karma. Karma is too much faulty. Admin should let people see each other's karma. It should not be hidden. If I have friends on this forum, we can just arrange how we can be sending karma to ourselves. What I am saying is that some people will be abusing it. I guess you do not really have friends on this forum is the reason for your complaint.

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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2024, 07:30:00 PM »
I reckon most spend karma not really based on the merit of the post but rather just because they like the individual which is not the right way to do it.

Looks like it, some people teleport account here and reach good number of karma in less time. I do not say that they do not make good posts but there could be karma cycling, so karma receiving history would deffo be a nice addition to this forum.

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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2024, 07:40:47 PM »
I only give karma if I found useful and it seems you can't give multiple karma at the same time it needs to wait 10 hours so I don't think someone can abuse this feature unless they keep giving karma to a useless post since it's not visible who give karma they can easily do this thing. I hope the admin will decide to make it visible so that we know who abuses this feature or who usually uses it on helpful/constructive posts.
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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2024, 08:41:42 PM »
Anyways let's just assume that members haven't really found attractive posts to give karma. Never the less I have also come across some members of recent that have some fancy number of karma.

We can't expect every post to be something great, that has new thing that no one has ever read of so if someone is giving the right solution to a query then it's worthy of giving a karma even though it's relatively simple cause many of us are here from bitcointalk so we may have been exposure to these knowledge so we just find this ordinary but it doesn't mean it has no value in it.

You are not encouraging abusing karma. Karma is too much faulty. Admin should let people see each other's karma. It should not be hidden.
there could be karma cycling, so karma receiving history would deffo be a nice addition to this forum.
I mentioned about making karma viewable on multiple threads but only admin can answer why it's been private and he mentioned that it's private to avoid any drama over that but it leads to abuse of the system.

you can't give multiple karma at the same time it needs to wait 10 hours so I don't think someone can abuse this feature unless they keep giving karma to a useless post since it's not visible who give karma they can easily do this thing.
Right, 1 Karma can be given for one individual once for every 10 hours but assume someone is managing 5 different accounts then they can bring all their 5 accounts to 100 Karma in matter of weeks and asked mods about this but admin will watch for such kind of abuse and will lead to penalty but I am watching a lot of users who doesn't even post at all but their karma keeps growing.
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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2024, 08:41:42 PM »


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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2024, 05:38:17 PM »
Just as the title says, lately people seems to be forgot about giving Karma to the users/posts that has something to contribute in the discussion.
Karma is not mandatory for anything here so far. As in btt, there are certain merits required to increase the rank. so the value of merit has increased a lot and there are merit sources who are given a lot of Smerit every month for distribution they have to do that because merit source gives merit for good posts.

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Even though you can give unlimited Karma unless merits are scarce due to the fact you need to earn two merits to give one now why you guys are not spending much Karma when you can.
Here no sendable karma is required to send karma but in btt a user can send merit of any amount if that amount of sendable merit is in his account but here you can give maximum 1 karma to the same person and wait for 10 hours to give next karma  have to do  This is why no matter how good one posts here, one's karma points do not increase to a large amount very quickly. there are many karma transactions here too, but because the transaction is not visible, we cannot understand how many karmas have been received by any post on any topic.
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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2024, 08:41:49 PM »
Here no sendable karma is required to send karma but in btt a user can send merit of any amount if that amount of sendable merit is in his account but here you can give maximum 1 karma to the same person and wait for 10 hours to give next karma  have to do  This is why no matter how good one posts here, one's karma points do not increase to a large amount very quickly. there are many karma transactions here too, but because the transaction is not visible, we cannot understand how many karmas have been received by any post on any topic.

There's restriction on merit system too, one person can send upto 50 merits per user for 30 days cycle.

And here user can recieve more than 1 Karma too from certain users like presidents and assume them as merit source just for the sake of comparison.

My point is why we are not using the system effectively if it's going to help the betterment of the forum, don't keep it too scarce that voids the purpose and people who try to contribute can fed up with such attitude.
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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2024, 10:14:50 PM »
I agree with you and I already gave you 1 more Karma hehehe
Maybe because users don't need karma immediately, they end up forgetting to give a + Karma or even a - Karma if necessary

I think it's important to use the forum tools as a whole, including Karma, because it can help in the future or even to encourage users to keep posting useful and interesting things
As well as the Trade Count if you have made a transaction here on the forum
We know that in the long run all these tools can help a lot


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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2024, 10:59:45 PM »
Just as the title says, lately people seems to be forgot about giving Karma to the users/posts that has something to contribute in the discussion.

Even though you can give unlimited Karma unless merits are scarce due to the fact you need to earn two merits to give one now why you guys are not spending much Karma when you can.

I am not encouraging abusing it to every comment but it is important to recognize the active and helpful community member that will give further push for their contribution also I reckon most spend karma not really based on the merit of the post but rather just because they like the individual which is not the right way to do it.

I really appreciate everyone's opinions on this.
Yes you told appropriate, we are seeing since long time people are not giving Karma. I think they are forgot about giving Karma. I thank you post will be helpful for giving Karma to us.

I think you who will post informative and good post he deserve a positive Karma for him. So people need knowledge about cryptocurrency, Who will post informative and useful for from users he will get positive Karma I think.
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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2024, 12:48:03 AM »
I do not say that they do not make good posts but there could be karma cycling, so karma receiving history would deffo be a nice addition to this forum.
It has been discussed in many topics, and the admin still sticks to the old rules of this forum... the topic of discussing karma came up a lot when btt members did a massive teleportation a few months ago... looking at it from another perspective, this karma is also not too complicated... if you like it, you give (+) to the related post, and if you feel the post is disturbing and seems to attack others or potentially dangerous, the karma (-) is enough to prove your support for upholding justice... I am still quite comfortable with the simple mechanism of karma in the altcoinstalks forum, and it is not a big problem now..

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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2024, 01:05:05 AM »
Briefly reading the other answers here, it seems that the majority of users agree that the karma system is not the best used on this forum. And it has the potential to be an indicator of the quality of writing for each member.
This has been discussed many times, but since there is no reaction, it can be assumed that this problem is at the bottom of the priority list.

In addition to the fact that there should be visibility on which post a user received karma, I think it is a big mistake to allow any user can pay for the removal of negative karma points, as well as the user can swap karma points for forum tokens.
Any possibility of reputation trading did not bring anything good.
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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2024, 01:27:37 PM »
The reason may be that it is not a rare thing and everyone can send it, and merit sources are not relied upon in choosing who to join the campaign, as some people were accepted and had low Karma, and others were rejected and had more than 200 Karma.

Giving Karma to posts and replies instead of the account may encourage more Karma use, create high-quality posts, and recognize high-quality posts.

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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2024, 02:07:21 PM »
Maybe admin should make the + Karma and - Karma buttons bigger, because I guess they are not prominent enough. They have the same font weight as all the other profile text surrounding it, so even making it bold helps. Or perhaps it can be moved to the top right corner of each post next to the Insert Quote button.
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