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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2024, 02:39:34 PM »
Maybe admin should make the + Karma and - Karma buttons bigger, because I guess they are not prominent enough. They have the same font weight as all the other profile text surrounding it, so even making it bold helps. Or perhaps it can be moved to the top right corner of each post next to the Insert Quote button.
+1 karma for this (so that I don't forget)  ;)
The idea of ​​having it next to the quote button is very good and makes more sense. Of course, karma points should be awarded per post and not per user.
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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2024, 02:39:34 PM »

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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2024, 02:48:04 PM »
I do not say that they do not make good posts but there could be karma cycling, so karma receiving history would deffo be a nice addition to this forum.
It has been discussed in many topics, and the admin still sticks to the old rules of this forum... the topic of discussing karma came up a lot when btt members did a massive teleportation a few months ago... looking at it from another perspective, this karma is also not too complicated... if you like it, you give (+) to the related post, and if you feel the post is disturbing and seems to attack others or potentially dangerous, the karma (-) is enough to prove your support for upholding justice... I am still quite comfortable with the simple mechanism of karma in the altcoinstalks forum, and it is not a big problem now..

Yes, the admin or the forum itself had this features even before we teleported here, and maybe if we didn't for sure the system will still be in place.

But I do agree that the (+) and (-) should be at least bigger or next to the post itself so that we will encourage to give it out to posters we like or we think the members put a lot of effort to reply to someone's post.
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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2024, 02:48:04 PM »

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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2024, 07:28:26 PM »
Maybe admin should make the + Karma and - Karma buttons bigger, because I guess they are not prominent enough. They have the same font weight as all the other profile text surrounding it, so even making it bold helps. Or perhaps it can be moved to the top right corner of each post next to the Insert Quote button.

That's actually a very good idea, will make it more visible so that encourages people to use it along with that it also aligns with bitcointalk's merit button and since most of the users are teleported from there, they can find it more convenient and don't forget to use it if they want to. ;)

And I do stand by the point of making the Karma TXs visible so that people who abuse it due to anonymity can't do it anymore.
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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2024, 08:20:46 PM »
Just as the title says, lately people seems to be forgot about giving Karma to the users/posts that has something to contribute in the discussion.

Even though you can give unlimited Karma unless merits are scarce due to the fact you need to earn two merits to give one now why you guys are not spending much Karma when you can.

I am not encouraging abusing it to every comment but it is important to recognize the active and helpful community member that will give further push for their contribution also I reckon most spend karma not really based on the merit of the post but rather just because they like the individual which is not the right way to do it.

I really appreciate everyone's opinions on this.
You are right, and you got +1 karma for being very thoughtful, I personally have been trying my best when it comes to giving karma to posts i think are worth it, and actually earned quite a few as well, should I assume myself lucky? Cus alot of people are actually complaining about this same issue you complained about, but then, all I can advice us all is to be proactive in appreciating ourselves, giving karma to others serves as not just a motivation, but also encourages them to do more, when I receive good karma, it motivates me, regardless of the fact that I do not know who gave it or which post I got it from, it still makes me happy because it simply means that somebody(a user) actually read my post/comment and liked it.

We all should learn to share this love for our own growth.
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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2024, 08:35:10 PM »
I think what we should be requesting is to show the post which the karma was given and not karma is not giving thread. Karma is given to all quality posts and and well behaved users in the forum and the to some extent the decentrality of the system is good because they will not use that to do and undo users. 
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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2024, 10:50:03 PM »
Even though you can give unlimited Karma unless merits are scarce due to the fact you need to earn two merits to give one now why you guys are not spending much Karma when you can.

I am not encouraging abusing it to every comment but it is important to recognize the active and helpful community member that will give further push for their contribution also I reckon most spend karma not really based on the merit of the post but rather just because they like the individual which is not the right way to do it.

I really appreciate everyone's opinions on this.
You actually bring up a good point. If you see it is true that we have option to give unlimited karma in this forum but after that it is seen that many members are not interested in giving karma. And what I personally think as the reason for this is that they may think that if they give karma to others, their karma may be more than him, so they refrain from giving karma.
I think we should change this concept from within. I personally post up to 5 to 6 in a day on this forum and give most of those posts that deserve karma.

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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2024, 11:04:10 PM »
Personally, I don't go around hunting for posts that I could give +/- karma and I also don't keep a list. I do it when I see a good or spam post/comment but I can only give one to the same user even if I want to send more. The 10-hour limitation is sometimes a hindrance for cases like this.

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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2024, 11:04:10 PM »


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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2024, 08:46:20 AM »
I am not encouraging abusing it to every comment but it is important to recognize the active and helpful community member that will give further push for their contribution also I reckon most spend karma not really based on the merit of the post but rather just because they like the individual which is not the right way to do it.

I really appreciate everyone's opinions on this.
I agree with your statement and this is so true. Newcomers will be discouraged if they won't be given karma on their posts and most of the ranked members don't even want to read their posts but some newcomers make really good posts. I saw new members and getting negative karma instead of getting positive even though the member has not made any bad posts.

You did the right thing by pointing out this issue even though I was not focusing on giving karma to new members because new members are the ones who need karma because old and ranked members have made their place in the community and now and then they get karma and that's not a problem for them.
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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2024, 04:22:27 PM »
Just as the title says, lately people seems to be forgot about giving Karma to the users/posts that has something to contribute in the discussion.

Even though you can give unlimited Karma unless merits are scarce due to the fact you need to earn two merits to give one now why you guys are not spending much Karma when you can.

I am not encouraging abusing it to every comment but it is important to recognize the active and helpful community member that will give further push for their contribution also I reckon most spend karma not really based on the merit of the post but rather just because they like the individual which is not the right way to do it.

I really appreciate everyone's opinions on this.


One fact to start with, for all those teleported from BTT, don't expect to get +karma from any member who never gave you merit on BTT - there are people who don't like you for various reasons and don't care about quality at all of your posts.

Furthermore, there is always competition in the sense that those with the most "recognition" (+karma) have a higher value and a greater chance to enter the best sig campaigns, so some members give very little +karma or don't give it to anyone at all.

My statistics say that I have written 938 posts on this forum and received (so far) 175+ karma and an unknown number of -karma, which means that members roughly reward about 20% of my posts as good content, and the rest went unnoticed. I don't know the exact data, but in the period from February to today, since I've been active on ATT - I think I got at least x3 the number of merits on BTT, which speaks for itself.

However, it's completely pointless to get upset about things like this, because you can't influence people to do something they don't want for one reason or another.
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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2024, 05:31:55 PM »
However, it's completely pointless to get upset about things like this, because you can't influence people to do something they don't want for one reason or another.

I'm not upset about not receiving Karma for myself just upset about the fact that people are not using it effectively and it has been then it will help the better posts, threads, and comments so that will increase the traffic towards the forum too.

As you said certain people don't want others to surpass them in terms or Karma or anything but I hope those who think that low is not that many, another reason why I am pointing out the lack of using the system is it can spread to other members and people don't use it at all over the period.
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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2024, 11:30:40 PM »
I'm not upset about not receiving Karma for myself just upset about the fact that people are not using it effectively and it has been then it will help the better posts, threads, and comments so that will increase the traffic towards the forum too.
How do you know people don't use karma effectively?
I'm sure, more people are aware to use karma now. I sometimes take a look at PX-Z thread, I see a good progress in karma distribution. It is much better than when karma was implemented for the first time in this forum. Well, I think every thing should take time, even this forum just has many active members. So, it is normal if your karma still can't increase significantly. Moreover, we have a limit of sending karma to one user, it is 1 karma+ per day. By the way, I'm actively sending karma to any good members even if I'm not really active to discuss about karma.

As you said certain people don't want others to surpass them in terms or Karma or anything but I hope those who think that low is not that many, another reason why I am pointing out the lack of using the system is it can spread to other members and people don't use it at all over the period.
TBH, I don't really understand your point. I suggest you don't view it too pessimistic. No one tries to hinder the growth of karma of certain members. It is impossible to hinder it because we have many people in this forum. Even if we don't send karma+ to him, other members will do it. You just accuse something unclear, mate.

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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2024, 11:40:44 PM »
I read in another topic that the admin is working on making it possible to see the posts one receive karma on, i think that is very much needed. Right now we cannot see the posts we receive karma and i am sure everyone is eager for that addition.

However, i have not noticed that there is a drop in karma distribution, though i agree that users should send karma whenever they find a post that meets their quality criteria.

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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2024, 01:51:54 AM »
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Furthermore, there is always competition in the sense that those with the most "recognition" (+karma) have a higher value and a greater chance to enter the best sig campaigns, so some members give very little +karma or don't give it to anyone at all.
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It's a possible explanation, because campaign managers already use merits as a parameter for choosing users or keeping them in campaigns in the other forum
Even though here I've never seen anyone comment on karma being a factor to consider to choose for a campaign, it may be that this mentality comes from the user not wanting to distribute karma

I try to give the +karma to the creators of an interesting thread or a more elaborate and constructive post

Maybe karma being in the post instead of having to go to the user could improve this situation and be useful to know which post had a +karma to know that the post helped someone or was good
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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2024, 04:25:35 PM »
I didn't forgot to give karma for good posts but I feel very limited when I can't give users more than one karma per day.
Karma system needs to be improved, much better to do that than to change forum logo all the time with bunch of new images.
 
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Re: Seems people forgot about giving Karma
« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2024, 04:52:39 PM »
However, it's completely pointless to get upset about things like this, because you can't influence people to do something they don't want for one reason or another.

I'm not upset about not receiving Karma for myself just upset about the fact that people are not using it effectively and it has been then it will help the better posts, threads, and comments so that will increase the traffic towards the forum too.

As you said certain people don't want others to surpass them in terms or Karma or anything but I hope those who think that low is not that many, another reason why I am pointing out the lack of using the system is it can spread to other members and people don't use it at all over the period.


As I already wrote, some people simply do not care about such things, others may have very high standards when it comes to the quality of posts, and others may not even know that they can give karma if they are Senior+ rank, regardless of whether they have ever received karma.

Maybe it's a combination of all these things, and maybe we simply have too few forum users who give karma outside their "local circle".
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