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Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« on: August 27, 2024, 04:09:34 AM »

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2024, 06:49:29 AM »

They're all the same in a sense, we can't just say those long term holders don't want profit. Thry may say they are here in crypto for the technology. We have heard it before but when bear market comes we all have to drop everything. I believe there are few who will hold for whatever their reason, maybe they expect thenprice to continue to go up.

This long term holders I guess are those who really hold for a long time since the inception might be the ones here for the blockchain technology to manifest.

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2024, 08:34:32 AM »
We know that  long term traders, investors and holders is also the best profitable for crypto-currency market. Because we know if we will understand in crypto market and start long term trade i think that i will be success. In that's time if we want to start to investment and understand for investment, i believe that it will be success for me. So i think that understanding in cryptocurrency market is very important. Because we know that every traders or investors was loss there profit for misunderstanding in crypto market.
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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2024, 09:19:54 AM »
Long term traders are swing traders. They can buy a coin and not sell it until it is 2 weeks or more. But long term traders should see the coins in less than 2 or 3 months. If it is getting more than that, it is becoming short term holder.

Investors can hodl. It means that investors are holders. Holders invest in a coin for a long time without selling. They can hold the coin for 6 months, a year, 2 years or more.

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2024, 02:58:57 PM »
Long term traders are swing traders. They can buy a coin and not sell it until it is 2 weeks or more. But long term traders should see the coins in less than 2 or 3 months. If it is getting more than that, it is becoming short term holder.

Investors can hodl. It means that investors are holders. Holders invest in a coin for a long time without selling. They can hold the coin for 6 months, a year, 2 years or more.
As a long-term trader or short-term holder, there is actually no explanation that regulates and differentiates it because for me for investment, whatever people say the most important thing is profit. I also do short-term trading, but when my coins dump I will hold them. And it can be said that at that time I was no longer a trader but a holder.

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2024, 09:13:53 PM »
Do you consider these three entities mentioned in title same thing or different? If latter, what's difference between each of these entities?
They are not totally the same but relates to the financial marke. In the financial market, there are two types of investors. Longterm and short term. Long-term investors put their money into opportunities that are likely to make good profits over a long time. These investors are like the movers of the market, driving it forward. They buy large portions of the market, allowing smaller traders to buy smaller portions, which adds liquidity to their trades.
In cryptocurrency, a "holder" is someone who buys a coin or token and holds onto it for a long time without selling or trading it. They believe the coin has good potential to make a profit in the future.

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2024, 10:22:55 PM »
You don't just pick one and go with it. First of all, I don't really know much difference between "investor" and "holder" but in general, you don't have to just pick one. I hold long term but I also trade a bit at the same time, not with all of my money, most of my money is on long term holding, but that doesn't mean I use a bit of it on trading, that has to be something to care. Which is why I believe that the best thing to do right now would be just focusing on how to get better results, and whatever method you use to get there is ok, there isn't really anything wrong with that, just be ok with it.

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2024, 12:27:18 AM »
Do you consider these three entities mentioned in title same thing or different? If latter, what's difference between each of these entities?
The titles three words you have mentioned those are the similarities and in some cases those can be same.
Like I will say the long-term traders and holders those are same. But in case of investor I will say that all trading holding are included under the investment because if you want make short-term trading here at first you have to invest some fund to start.

So we can Find some similarities on the trio but in the mean time those are not the same.
 

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2024, 02:21:09 AM »
Long term traders are swing traders. They can buy a coin and not sell it until it is 2 weeks or more. But long term traders should see the coins in less than 2 or 3 months. If it is getting more than that, it is becoming short term holder.

Investors can hodl. It means that investors are holders. Holders invest in a coin for a long time without selling. They can hold the coin for 6 months, a year, 2 years or more.

Every now and then I do a swing trade as you mentioned, when I find a good opportunity in a more significant fall of BTC or ETH (or even SOL)

But in general I consider myself a hodler, since I have a bit of BTC and ETH since 2017 and I've never sold them  8)
I separate them into different wallets, and as I said, the swing trade is for one case or another when I have USD and BTC drops a lot in a day, for example a few weeks ago I bought some satoshis for 60k range and sold in 66k, 10% of profits
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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2024, 05:25:35 AM »
I have out trading from longer term target after getting frustrated some coins holding suddenly get scam and delist on exchange, right now my trading target is short term but some time have to be investor after my coins trading price dropping significant. I adapt trading based on how market condition, if keep growing up I will prefer for short term trading but after price down must be long term trading or become investor.
Regarding market condition, very difficult for predicting will be short term or long term trader because market easily pump and dump in short term make us have difficult choose after investing.

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2024, 06:28:23 AM »

They're all the same in a sense, we can't just say those long term holders don't want profit. Thry may say they are here in crypto for the technology. We have heard it before but when bear market comes we all have to drop everything. I believe there are few who will hold for whatever their reason, maybe they expect thenprice to continue to go up.

This long term holders I guess are those who really hold for a long time since the inception might be the ones here for the blockchain technology to manifest.
However, some long-term holders are genuinely committed to the technology and its potential impact, regardless of market fluctuations. These individuals may have a deep belief in the long-term vision of blockchain and cryptocurrencies, viewing their holdings as a long-term investment rather than a short-term gain. For them, the ups and downs of the market are part of the journey, and they might be willing to hold through tough times, expecting the value to rise over time as adoption and innovation continue.

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2024, 09:06:10 AM »

When a person is into long-term trading, he can also be an investor and therefore a holder. These investors and holders will also be traders as they will eventually sell whatever they got in their wallets at the time and price they like. In general, short-term trading is a more speculative method of trading in comparison with traditional investment methods. Short-term trading is a strategy that aims to open and close positions within a short timeframe, usually days or weeks, although it can be even shorter. Here in cryptocurrency market, we just refer to these people - people like us - as HODLERS and they got diamond hands too since they are not influenced a lot by temporary FUDS. Investors who have the money will usually buy at bulk while those who are not may opt for the DCA way of crypto investing.

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2024, 11:19:45 AM »
There is no such thing as Long Term Traders, but Long Term Investors. So, Investors and Long Term Investors are descriptions of investment, which is the search for value, whether it is a short-term or long-term investment. Holders differ from investors, as investment searches for value. If it finds that the value of Bitcoin will decrease, it will prefer to search for a new investment, while Holders will continue to hold Bitcoin until their goals are achieved.
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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2024, 11:34:10 AM »
Do you consider these three entities mentioned in title same thing or different? If latter, what's difference between each of these entities?

Long term traders are quiet different from investor and Holders, that is to say investor vs Holders are more likely to be same unlike long term traders. Okay this is how i cast my view towards them; Trading is much stressful and it requires your time, resources, energy to efficiently remain steady fast on your screen which will likely affect your view and your mental health/wellbeing.
While that of investor vs Holders; In this you have less worries, what you would only look at is your projected year to sell your investment and holdings, it cost you nothing rather market dip your asset also dip, if market soar your asset also soar that is why you must chose a long term investment where you would experience like 2 to 3 halving with this one is sure of their investment yielding much more unlike that long term traders, although if such person is professional trader then he could make much profits from trading.

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Re: Long term traders vs Investors vs Holders
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2024, 03:26:17 PM »
Do you consider these three entities mentioned in title same thing or different? If latter, what's difference between each of these entities?
They are not totally the same but relates to the financial marke. In the financial market, there are two types of investors. Longterm and short term. Long-term investors put their money into opportunities that are likely to make good profits over a long time. These investors are like the movers of the market, driving it forward. They buy large portions of the market, allowing smaller traders to buy smaller portions, which adds liquidity to their trades.
In cryptocurrency, a "holder" is someone who buys a coin or token and holds onto it for a long time without selling or trading it. They believe the coin has good potential to make a profit in the future.
All these "holders" to gain the most in bitcoin. Because they do not sell their holding under any circumstances. They firmly believe that it will grow, and hold. If every small and big investor can think like those holders and continue to hold, then everyone can benefit. So invest in Bitcoin, have faith in Bitcoin and keep holding, big profits will surely come sometime.
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