Telegram CEO is arrested, do you continue investing in tokens in Ton ecosystem?

[Baofeng]

many support durov from various countries, but will that free him? this will be the discussion in court. because he is free on bail he must improve the performance of the telegram.

Telegram performance is already okay, but the area people are more concern about is the telegram wallet that has less privacy and strong security. However, that will be a matter to look onto for Durov to solve some other time until he manages to sort out with the rising allegations pointing against him to resolve because as it all seems Pavel Durov cannot leave French territory, and he will report to police twice a week. So, Pavel Durov is like someone who's caged in France despite his bail conditions.

We can all agree that Ton is not affecting by it. But perhaps our concern is how Durov will be in the French soil. As we all know that there are a lot of serious charges on him and we really don't know if he can get over the lawsuit or will he be rotten in jail in France.

I think if the cases against him will be dismissed, obviously Ton and Telegram will be massive. However, personally, it sure looks like he can't get away with it and France are going to put him in jail.

[Stompix]

I wonder if they will do that if Meredith Whittaker ever goes to France since Signal technically cannot read the stuff either.

She has been to a conference in Paris one month before Durov warrant  has been issued:
https://www.wired.com/story/meredith-whittaker-signal/

Well, before we get to that story: You’ve been spending the summer in Paris. Why Europe? Why France? Is that a Meredith thing, or is that a Signal thing?

It’s a Signal thing. We’re focusing on the EU, and growing our market, and figuring out who potential partners could be.
I think it’s good for any tech company right now to be thinking, how can we be flexible, given that we’re looking at a very volatile geopolitical environment.

Better focus why despite "fleeing" from Russia Durova had 50!!! trips there in the last 3 years and why after the arrest Ukraine issued a ban on Telegram with a lot of Nato aligned countries issuing a warning for their officials, what more of hint that Telegram had a backdoor?

[KryptoBull]

Yes, I hold TON tokens in my wallet. If I see the news about Durov, I am a little worried, but seeing TON's rate going against the current when the market is red, I believe TON is worth investing in.

We see that the TON price didn't drop too sharply after this negative news was announced, but the Ton ecosystem has slowed down and Telegram users have started to panic. They are a large part of Ton's potential user base through Tap-to-Earn games, so if they are uncertain, it will be more difficult for game and memecoin projects on Ton to succeed.

We haven't seen a clear recovery of TON yet, but at least the recent price drop of TON can be considered a retest of the support at the peak of December 2021. We will follow together and I hope the TON price will increase to bring you profit

[royalRitta]

If you are interested in making profits with this news, it's safe to say that you can buy at this low point and wait for the verdict in the CEO case. If it happens to be a positive thing like being released in custody, that would be a tremendous run-up, but if it goes down, that would be a great sale again.

In my opinion, this would depend on how you look at it.

You will see the effect of the news whatever it may be already brought on onto the market, so I don't think that would be the case.
It's the case of belief put into the TON and its chain. If you do think it will prosper no matter how this case is resolved - you are free to invest.
If not - you are free not to do so.

[yohananaomi]

many support durov from various countries, but will that free him? this will be the discussion in court. because he is free on bail he must improve the performance of the telegram.

Telegram performance is already okay, but the area people are more concern about is the telegram wallet that has less privacy and strong security. However, that will be a matter to look onto for Durov to solve some other time until he manages to sort out with the rising allegations pointing against him to resolve because as it all seems Pavel Durov cannot leave French territory, and he will report to police twice a week. So, Pavel Durov is like someone who's caged in France despite his bail conditions.

It seems that there is no major impact on telegrams because of the problems with Durov, even if he has to be detained. I think many are able to manage telegrams well and run it well and the evidence is that there has been no impact at all until now.
Agree, the crucial problem is the telegram wallet, which is very vulnerable, because it relies on a third party as an operator who can be disconnected unilaterally at any time and can no longer be connected to the wallet. Hopefully, there is protection that can be held so that, as a wallet holder, you can open it anytime anywhere.
Let the legal issues still have to be carried out and indeed must be responsible for actions that may be, accused in court later.

[KryptoBull]

It seems that there is no major impact on telegrams because of the problems with Durov, even if he has to be detained. I think many are able to manage telegrams well and run it well and the evidence is that there has been no impact at all until now.
Agree, the crucial problem is the telegram wallet, which is very vulnerable, because it relies on a third party as an operator who can be disconnected unilaterally at any time and can no longer be connected to the wallet. Hopefully, there is protection that can be held so that, as a wallet holder, you can open it anytime anywhere.
Let the legal issues still have to be carried out and indeed must be responsible for actions that may be, accused in court later.

At the time the news about Durov was released, TON price did indeed take a negative hit, but this decline ended quickly and became a regular correction. The crypto market had a lot of positive news, so the negative news was soon forgotten, especially since it wasn't directly related to a major crypto project.

Personally, I'm now just waiting for the outcome of the lawsuit with expectations for Telegram's future, rather than TON. I hope Durov will soon be found not guilty and continue to develop the Telegram platform to serve the discussion needs of the crypto community. When that happens, TON will also receive new momentum to grow this season.

[pieppiep]

many support durov from various countries, but will that free him? this will be the discussion in court. because he is free on bail he must improve the performance of the telegram.

Telegram performance is already okay, but the area people are more concern about is the telegram wallet that has less privacy and strong security. However, that will be a matter to look onto for Durov to solve some other time until he manages to sort out with the rising allegations pointing against him to resolve because as it all seems Pavel Durov cannot leave French territory, and he will report to police twice a week. So, Pavel Durov is like someone who's caged in France despite his bail conditions.

It seems that there is no major impact on telegrams because of the problems with Durov, even if he has to be detained. I think many are able to manage telegrams well and run it well and the evidence is that there has been no impact at all until now.
Agree, the crucial problem is the telegram wallet, which is very vulnerable, because it relies on a third party as an operator who can be disconnected unilaterally at any time and can no longer be connected to the wallet. Hopefully, there is protection that can be held so that, as a wallet holder, you can open it anytime anywhere.
Let the legal issues still have to be carried out and indeed must be responsible for actions that may be, accused in court later.

Yes, that is why when creating a digital platform, it is crucial to guarantee that its security will remain trustworthy and will not be interfearable with from outside. The use of third parties entails further risks, these include risks associated with access control and management of users’ privileges. An opportunity to partially resolve this issue is to create an independent and decentralized environment where users can control their assets and personal data without getting caught in the crossfire.

However, legal and regulatory issue must be met with positive and friendly disposition. Affordance of a protection framework that meets all the required provisions of the law can go along way in establishing long term credibility from users. In this way, platform actors can prove that they are not merely trying to offer technologies to fit new mechanisms but also observe current ethical and legal standards.

[luckyledger]

It seems that there is no major impact on telegrams because of the problems with Durov, even if he has to be detained. I think many are able to manage telegrams well and run it well and the evidence is that there has been no impact at all until now.
Agree, the crucial problem is the telegram wallet, which is very vulnerable, because it relies on a third party as an operator who can be disconnected unilaterally at any time and can no longer be connected to the wallet. Hopefully, there is protection that can be held so that, as a wallet holder, you can open it anytime anywhere.
Let the legal issues still have to be carried out and indeed must be responsible for actions that may be, accused in court later.

At the time the news about Durov was released, TON price did indeed take a negative hit, but this decline ended quickly and became a regular correction. The crypto market had a lot of positive news, so the negative news was soon forgotten, especially since it wasn't directly related to a major crypto project.

Personally, I'm now just waiting for the outcome of the lawsuit with expectations for Telegram's future, rather than TON. I hope Durov will soon be found not guilty and continue to develop the Telegram platform to serve the discussion needs of the crypto community. When that happens, TON will also receive new momentum to grow this season.

Durov doubled down a bit on the situation, agreeing on cooperating with the governments that would require from Telegram some information.
Only time will tell how the situation will evolve from here.

[KryptoBull]

Yes, that is why when creating a digital platform, it is crucial to guarantee that its security will remain trustworthy and will not be interfearable with from outside. The use of third parties entails further risks, these include risks associated with access control and management of users’ privileges. An opportunity to partially resolve this issue is to create an independent and decentralized environment where users can control their assets and personal data without getting caught in the crossfire.

However, legal and regulatory issue must be met with positive and friendly disposition. Affordance of a protection framework that meets all the required provisions of the law can go along way in establishing long term credibility from users. In this way, platform actors can prove that they are not merely trying to offer technologies to fit new mechanisms but also observe current ethical and legal standards.

In a context where governments want more control, developing a platform that absolutely respects user data privacy can pose risks for project founders and developers. Durov became a victim of Telegram's success, especially when Telegram became too successful on a global scale, indirectly impacting TON and many tokens in this nascent ecosystem.

I believe we will soon see a truly decentralized platform operating on a blockchain with no founder-related vulnerabilities. Many such projects have been introduced but none have truly stood out and captured the attention of users.

[rizqillah]

Yes, that is why when creating a digital platform, it is crucial to guarantee that its security will remain trustworthy and will not be interfearable with from outside. The use of third parties entails further risks, these include risks associated with access control and management of users’ privileges. An opportunity to partially resolve this issue is to create an independent and decentralized environment where users can control their assets and personal data without getting caught in the crossfire.

However, legal and regulatory issue must be met with positive and friendly disposition. Affordance of a protection framework that meets all the required provisions of the law can go along way in establishing long term credibility from users. In this way, platform actors can prove that they are not merely trying to offer technologies to fit new mechanisms but also observe current ethical and legal standards.

In a context where governments want more control, developing a platform that absolutely respects user data privacy can pose risks for project founders and developers. Durov became a victim of Telegram's success, especially when Telegram became too successful on a global scale, indirectly impacting TON and many tokens in this nascent ecosystem.

I believe we will soon see a truly decentralized platform operating on a blockchain with no founder-related vulnerabilities. Many such projects have been introduced but none have truly stood out and captured the attention of users.

The government also has considerations about Kasu Durov, some say it is only propaganda but in my opinion the government must have seen an error or lack of control from Durov so that it is considered a mistake.
Telegram has succeeded in making popular tons coins and this is what makes Crypto lovers think there is something strange in the Durov case. But everyone can assume.

[Lucius]

Better focus why despite "fleeing" from Russia Durova had 50!!! trips there in the last 3 years and why after the arrest Ukraine issued a ban on Telegram with a lot of Nato aligned countries issuing a warning for their officials, what more of hint that Telegram had a backdoor?

Do you want to say that Telegram always had a backdoor, only this whole circus is because the other side wants the same backdoor? I'm not surprised that Durov helps their people all the time, I'm just surprised that Ukraine used an app that was potentially all the time under the control of the country that is attacking them.

By the way, I read somewhere that Signal stated that if the EU were to demand the same thing from them, they would choose to withdraw from the EU rather than comply with the demands. I'm really curious if these are empty threats or if they really think so.

+1

[Geey]

It seems that the case experienced by telegram ceo durov is very serious and it is impossible for the French state to release him just like that while the problems he experienced have not been resolved. If the telegram ceo has been legally determined and imprisoned, it will have a big impact on the Ton coin because he is the one who developed all of this, with this news all investors will be afraid of bad things happening to them and of course the ton will experience a very far decline because of all of this.

[yohananaomi]

It seems that there is no major impact on telegrams because of the problems with Durov, even if he has to be detained. I think many are able to manage telegrams well and run it well and the evidence is that there has been no impact at all until now.
Agree, the crucial problem is the telegram wallet, which is very vulnerable, because it relies on a third party as an operator who can be disconnected unilaterally at any time and can no longer be connected to the wallet. Hopefully, there is protection that can be held so that, as a wallet holder, you can open it anytime anywhere.
Let the legal issues still have to be carried out and indeed must be responsible for actions that may be, accused in court later.

At the time the news about Durov was released, TON price did indeed take a negative hit, but this decline ended quickly and became a regular correction. The crypto market had a lot of positive news, so the negative news was soon forgotten, especially since it wasn't directly related to a major crypto project.

Personally, I'm now just waiting for the outcome of the lawsuit with expectations for Telegram's future, rather than TON. I hope Durov will soon be found not guilty and continue to develop the Telegram platform to serve the discussion needs of the crypto community. When that happens, TON will also receive new momentum to grow this season.

Durov doubled down a bit on the situation, agreeing on cooperating with the governments that would require from Telegram some information.
Only time will tell how the situation will evolve from here.

Is there already an opinion like you said on social media? If it has been said, it means one of the efforts to be able to follow the requested rules and if it can be given without sacrificing neutrality for its users, of course, it is very much appreciated So that the problems that ensnared him can be resolved quickly and Telegram will benefit from cooperation.
We will see how the journey will go after this.

[enoch_from_off]

It seems that the case experienced by telegram ceo durov is very serious and it is impossible for the French state to release him just like that while the problems he experienced have not been resolved. If the telegram ceo has been legally determined and imprisoned, it will have a big impact on the Ton coin because he is the one who developed all of this, with this news all investors will be afraid of bad things happening to them and of course the ton will experience a very far decline because of all of this.

The dip from the news already happened when it all started, the question is - how it will be resolved?
In any case, TON is here to stay, in my opinion. And with the dip or not, it will recover.

[luckyledger]

It seems that there is no major impact on telegrams because of the problems with Durov, even if he has to be detained. I think many are able to manage telegrams well and run it well and the evidence is that there has been no impact at all until now.
Agree, the crucial problem is the telegram wallet, which is very vulnerable, because it relies on a third party as an operator who can be disconnected unilaterally at any time and can no longer be connected to the wallet. Hopefully, there is protection that can be held so that, as a wallet holder, you can open it anytime anywhere.
Let the legal issues still have to be carried out and indeed must be responsible for actions that may be, accused in court later.

At the time the news about Durov was released, TON price did indeed take a negative hit, but this decline ended quickly and became a regular correction. The crypto market had a lot of positive news, so the negative news was soon forgotten, especially since it wasn't directly related to a major crypto project.

Personally, I'm now just waiting for the outcome of the lawsuit with expectations for Telegram's future, rather than TON. I hope Durov will soon be found not guilty and continue to develop the Telegram platform to serve the discussion needs of the crypto community. When that happens, TON will also receive new momentum to grow this season.

Durov doubled down a bit on the situation, agreeing on cooperating with the governments that would require from Telegram some information.
Only time will tell how the situation will evolve from here.

Is there already an opinion like you said on social media? If it has been said, it means one of the efforts to be able to follow the requested rules and if it can be given without sacrificing neutrality for its users, of course, it is very much appreciated So that the problems that ensnared him can be resolved quickly and Telegram will benefit from cooperation.
We will see how the journey will go after this.

Telegram starts cooperation with French police – media
Also, they changed their rules regarding private chats.
And I've seen news about different countries asking the same in terms of "help" from Telegram.
As you said, we will see how it goes.