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In my opinion, the statement like he said that workers are slaves is not good way to describe workers. Workers play a crucial role in the society and economy and jobs can help a worker pick up skills and make connections that can help them with future opportunities, like starting their own business. one must experience how something is done like jobs to understand the process and which may be an opportunity to start ones business.

In the context of the message he his trying to send across he said workers are slaves because of how they are been treated, if you are a Nigerian you should definitely understand what he's talking about, you can see how those in higher authorities treat workers, they make them do more than the worth of what they are been paid but meanwhile they are using them to make a lot of money for themselves, what would you call it? Isn't it slavery? Without the workers the company or organisation wouldn't function effectively but they are not been appreciated their salaries are nothing to Write home about, there's no way to sugarcoat it, this actually a corporate form of slavery

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Experience is just one thing that you can gain from any job or business. Personally i have my own food shop and i am engaged in all kinds of food sales. I have experience in buying food wholesale, and attracting buyers. Before i started the business i worked for some time in another company because of which i gained some experience. Again, if you work as an office assistant in a company then you can gain experience in many internal matters that will help you achieve your future goals. Coming to your last point, being a slave isn't such a bad thing because you have to take it for granted if you want to achieve your goals. Although you will have less freedom here, it is temporary and of course you have future goals.

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Now, I wish to get your opinion, friends. What do you think of such a statement?

The moment some guys from Walmart get into your home, kidnap you and your family, castrate you, ship you to a center where you work in chains and after 6 months you get sold to do the same job at Costco without seeing your family again that's the moment you could call it slavery.
Till then, whoever said that has no idea what actual hardships in life are like!

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Experience is just one thing that you can gain from any job or business. Personally i have my own food shop and i am engaged in all kinds of food sales. I have experience in buying food wholesale, and attracting buyers. Before i started the business i worked for some time in another company because of which i gained some experience. Again, if you work as an office assistant in a company then you can gain experience in many internal matters that will help you achieve your future goals. Coming to your last point, being a slave isn't such a bad thing because you have to take it for granted if you want to achieve your goals. Although you will have less freedom here, it is temporary and of course you have future goals.
Yea, I don't see any slavery working as an employee because as long as you are learning and improving your knowledge on your job, it is beneficial because tomorrow you can go yo a bigger company and get big pay. No one is forcing anyone with guns on his head to work for the government but you have earn to survive in life.

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If you read the title, it was a statement made by someone yesterday as he was trying to discourage someone else from getting a white collar job.(The kind of work he was referring to is a white collar job or any job that requires you to work as an employee in another man's company or business.).

In their conversation, as I paid close attention, he said that workers are slaves and that some workers are smiling in pain while working for peanuts. He went on to say that people are not supposed to work for anyone but should rather be their own boss.

Now, I wish to get your opinion, friends. What do you think of such a statement?

Personal for me, I do believe that getting a job is not just about the salary you get paid, but there are some jobs that can help to groom you into getting more experience that can also help you to explore when you want to start your own business or company to become your own boss.

Some people even get to learn about the boss role experience after working as an employee in some office for some number of months or years.

In conclusion, workers are not actually slaves, some people have reasons why they decided to work. For example, in my country, there is one man who is the CEO of a bank. According to him, he worked with the Central Bank of my country as a tech guy, but after eight years of working with them, he gathered lots of experience and also raised enough money that he was able to start his own company. He started an MMO (mobile money provider service), but today he is now a microfinance bank, and he has made excellent more than many commercial banks in my country.

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Any idea can always be brought to a positive position as well as a negative one.
I have my own way of looking at it:
0. We are talking about normal countries where there is no slave system, or totalitarian system. This is a fundamental part of the answer.
1. No one forces employees to work. This is another fundamental part of the answer.
2. An employee is not a slave - he is contracted to supply some services, in exchange for a remuneration that satisfies both parties. 
3. Not all people, and frankly, most people, are unable to start and run their own business. There are a lot of reasons for this, and very objective.
4. Hired employees is a resource without which even a small business cannot exist. If you have 2-3 small stores, or a small family farm - you will still hire salespeople, movers ... because you simply don't have enough physical resources of your own.

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Experience is just one thing that you can gain from any job or business. Personally i have my own food shop and i am engaged in all kinds of food sales. I have experience in buying food wholesale, and attracting buyers. Before i started the business i worked for some time in another company because of which i gained some experience. Again, if you work as an office assistant in a company then you can gain experience in many internal matters that will help you achieve your future goals. Coming to your last point, being a slave isn't such a bad thing because you have to take it for granted if you want to achieve your goals. Although you will have less freedom here, it is temporary and of course you have future goals.
Yea, I don't see any slavery working as an employee because as long as you are learning and improving your knowledge on your job, it is beneficial because tomorrow you can go yo a bigger company and get big pay. No one is forcing anyone with guns on his head to work for the government but you have earn to survive in life.
Money is needed to survive in life that's why i engage myself in various fields of work. I worked as a sales man to earn money a few years back. But it was very difficult because there are many people who misbehave even after receiving the delivery. Many others give tips after receiving the delivery. Actually we have different experiences in any working life. It can be work and it can also be about human behavior. However, the better the owner of a company, the more focused the company workers will be.

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Any idea can always be brought to a positive position as well as a negative one.
I have my own way of looking at it:
0. We are talking about normal countries where there is no slave system, or totalitarian system. This is a fundamental part of the answer.
1. No one forces employees to work. This is another fundamental part of the answer.
2. An employee is not a slave - he is contracted to supply some services, in exchange for a remuneration that satisfies both parties. 
3. Not all people, and frankly, most people, are unable to start and run their own business. There are a lot of reasons for this, and very objective.
4. Hired employees is a resource without which even a small business cannot exist. If you have 2-3 small stores, or a small family farm - you will still hire salespeople, movers ... because you simply don't have enough physical resources of your own.
You’re not totally wrong, it’s true that employees are not physically forced to work, but in some cases, they’re mentally forced to do the job, what do I mean by this? Some employers know fully well that the wages they offer do not really match the services they require from the employee, but due to the fact that they know too well the employees may not have much of a choice simply because they really need the money, they take advantage of them, use them and give them peanuts at the end of the month, this is nothing but a modern day mental slavery. Indeed it may actually look lol the employees have a choice to either accept or reject the offer, but in reality, by not giving the employees the chance to renegotiate the terms of the contract simply means they actually have no choice and jut because they need the money, they just have to accept the offer even when the terms of the contract does not really go down well with them.

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Any idea can always be brought to a positive position as well as a negative one.
I have my own way of looking at it:
0. We are talking about normal countries where there is no slave system, or totalitarian system. This is a fundamental part of the answer.
1. No one forces employees to work. This is another fundamental part of the answer.
2. An employee is not a slave - he is contracted to supply some services, in exchange for a remuneration that satisfies both parties. 
3. Not all people, and frankly, most people, are unable to start and run their own business. There are a lot of reasons for this, and very objective.
4. Hired employees is a resource without which even a small business cannot exist. If you have 2-3 small stores, or a small family farm - you will still hire salespeople, movers ... because you simply don't have enough physical resources of your own.
You’re not totally wrong, it’s true that employees are not physically forced to work, but in some cases, they’re mentally forced to do the job, what do I mean by this? Some employers know fully well that the wages they offer do not really match the services they require from the employee, but due to the fact that they know too well the employees may not have much of a choice simply because they really need the money, they take advantage of them, use them and give them peanuts at the end of the month, this is nothing but a modern day mental slavery. Indeed it may actually look lol the employees have a choice to either accept or reject the offer, but in reality, by not giving the employees the chance to renegotiate the terms of the contract simply means they actually have no choice and jut because they need the money, they just have to accept the offer even when the terms of the contract does not really go down well with them.

If no one is forcing them to work, then they can DENY their employer forcing them to do other work, without extra pay ! This is the basis of the employee-employer relationship. You need to do extra work - either pay extra money to the existing one, or hire another specialist !

If your country is totalitarian and lawless - don't vote for such people or correct the situation or go to a normal country.  This is not an easy way, but it gives results, unlike the way of “suffering” without trying to change the situation.



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Workers doesn't deserve to be treated as slave, but that is how some employers treat their employees, because they feel that they are owner of the companies, businesses, industries or enterprises. forgetting that mutual respect and interdependence are essential.

Employers should respect their workers as their workers are respecting them, because both of them can't do without each other, both of them are benefiting from each other, (are reciprocal beneficiaries). for instance:

Employers: company without workers is equal to zero
An individual: without job is equal to zero.

Both employers and employees need to collaborate and change the zero to hero, to put food on the table for themselves and their families, and also fulfill their financial responsibilities, by exchanging services with money.

However the company will develop and grow with the hard work of the employees, and the employer's dreams will definitely come true, because their hard work will lead to profits and company will be standardized.

Therefore, employers doesn't have any rights to treat their workers as slave. Because they also benefits from the workers.
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Workers doesn't deserve to be treated as slave, but that is how some employers treat their employees, because they feel that they are owner of the companies, businesses, industries or enterprises. forgetting that mutual respect and interdependence are essential.
you are right but i think the main post of op is that whether you are being treated fairly or not in a company just the fact alone that you are working for someone else already makes you a slave even if your boss treats you like an actual human being and has massive respect for you that doesn’t make him less of a boss to you which is why you are still under his command under his jurisdiction under his authority therefore you are still a slave you report to someone else and you are a slave

you can only be truly free if you have your own company and be the own boss of your life

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In their conversation, as I paid close attention, he said that workers are slaves and that some workers are smiling in pain while working for peanuts. He went on to say that people are not supposed to work for anyone but should rather be their own boss.

Now, I wish to get your opinion, friends. What do you think of such a statement?

Personal for me, I do believe that getting a job is not just about the salary you get paid, but there are some jobs that can help to groom you into getting more experience that can also help you to explore when you want to start your own business or company to become your own boss.

Some people even get to learn about the boss role experience after working as an employee in some office for some number of months or years.

First started here
The fact is that in every discussion there's what is called the context of discuss so within the context of what the two people where discussion he is right by saying that workers are slaves because carefully reading the writeup I can tell that the person making the statement was only encouraging the other person to be self reliance and independent rather than working for others which will make you depends on salary which is like a slave so the person was not trying to condemned workers but was only passing a message across for people to be innovative and come up with ideas that they can self sufficient

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those people who are discourage to work are likely going to commit crime in order to provide for themselves or die in hunger.  working your way to make it is just how the world works though. one will just too busy to plan for the future when your also busy thinking what to eat if there is even something to eat the next day.

like it or not, this is how it is already unless you just want to live like the sea gypsies who just dive under water and eat whatever they could find under. i don't think everyone can do this while you are not even equipped to swim 5 feet under.  ;D  even the business owners are slave in this world. everyone just have to make money. 

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The fact is that in every discussion there's what is called the context of discuss so within the context of what the two people where discussion he is right by saying that workers are slaves because carefully reading the writeup I can tell that the person making the statement was only encouraging the other person to be self reliance and independent rather than working for others which will make you depends on salary which is like a slave so the person was not trying to condemned workers but was only passing a message across for people to be innovative and come up with ideas that they can self sufficient
And have you considered the fact that one needs to first serve before he can become a master and be served? It’s wrong to say that people should not work under others because first of all, besides the salary, there are several other benefits of working under someone or serving a master in his trade. Firstly you get to earn experience in that field, how the business works, the ins and outs of the business and the knowledge would indeed be of more importance to you tomorrow, should incase you intend to go into the same field and start your own business.

Again, when you eventually start your own business, you’ll definitely require manpower/assistance, so how exactly are you going to get that when every other persons have adopted the idea that it is slavery to work for others and refuse to become slaves, would you still look at it that way from that perspective?

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I think in one way or the other that guy is very right but it depends on the kind of job, not all jobs are bad and not all salaries are bound for slavery.
Do you know that this year I mean just some months ago I accepted an offer to stay at home and to stop my work infact it's not an offer I stopped cause I saw that the work and salary was a bound for slavery damn. Like there are some work you do that is even better you have nothing doing I tell you but having your own job or business is the best or finding a work that is good not all jobs are bad.
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Again, when you eventually start your own business, you’ll definitely require manpower/assistance, so how exactly are you going to get that when every other persons have adopted the idea that it is slavery to work for others and refuse to become slaves, would you still look at it that way from that perspective?
You're only a slave as a worker when you've decided that you could do nothing better or else with your life and do not see any progress from the current position you are in. That will reflect a state of slavery both mentally and physically because you could do a lot more than choose to remain stagnant at a position in a company that has been paying you exactly the same amount of salary over a couple of years without any form of increment, incentive, or plan for better for you.
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