Democracy does not work as it should

[admin]

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You would imagine that in a democracy, people would try to improve and try to progress.
You are wrong, democracy is not about that, it's about having the freedom to live in shit huts if the majority decides to.
In a way, the bigger the democracy is, the farther from ideals it goes.

example: Do a big survey in any big democratic country, ask them:
Would you rather that we invest x amount to establish a moon base that would allow us further space exploration, or each citizen gets 50$/200$ next month ?

I bet that in most democratic countries, the answer would be: give me the money.

I have been developing a theory, for sometime about politics and democracy, but honestly this event threw me off-guard, and made me question my beliefs in democracy.

the event i am referring to is:
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=324219.0

In an ideal world scenario, people would be happy to accept the challenge, and try to improve their posting, and maybe put more effort learning.
Knowing that such a system will also be good for the community as a whole, but also increase the interest and get advertisers and get signature campaigns.

In reality: this will mean less chit chat, and less long posts about general matters, that quite honestly does not bring any value. More time would be needed to check news of the industry, learn, and maybe double check before posting or asking. That would increase x times the amount needed to produce a post.

Like in capital driven democracies, capital driven forum participation is not seeking the moon base but rather seeking the quick buck.

I have been writing a book about the political system, and this threw a wrench in my theories, it has shown how gullible my assumptions were, the book is scrapped and a whitepaper will be out instead, hopefully soon.

[Sim_card]

It is not by posting long post that makes it more quality. Some short post are even more  quality than a long post because it is carrying facts and went straight to the point. Majority of forum members here on signature campaign are not new to the cryptospace and most of them where teleported from BTT down here which means they have the knowledge and even sound one of what they are posting.

[Jokers]

example: Do a big survey in any big democratic country, ask them:
Would you rather that we invest x amount to establish a moon base that would allow us further space exploration, or each citizen gets 50$/200$ next month ?

Switzerland said no to the guaranteed basic income on the referendum with 77% opposed and only 23% voted for. People can make responsible things even as a crowd, if there is enough information and well organised society.

As for the Quality Index in general, there are several problems:

• Additional centralization. We already have many centralized tools on the forum, if they aren't working, then adding another one is not a solution.
• It is too complicated: who will monitor firstly hundreds and then thousands of users of the forum to give all of them these badges? Moderators? We or will have this system not working or will start losing moderators very soon as there's too much work.
• Criteria is not universal: some can have all nonsense posts in crypto topics and others can have several very important and informative posts in the crypto topics and many simple posts in off topic boards, but the second ones will be more valuable users for the forum. "Who are the judges?", like if was asked in one famous comedy in verse "Woe from Wit" by Alexander Griboyedov.

[admin]

example: Do a big survey in any big democratic country, ask them:
Would you rather that we invest x amount to establish a moon base that would allow us further space exploration, or each citizen gets 50$/200$ next month ?

Switzerland said no to the guaranteed basic income on the referendum with 77% opposed and only 23% voted for. People can make responsible things even as a crowd, if there is enough information and well organised society.

As for the Quality Index in general, there are several problems:

• Additional centralization. We already have many centralized tools on the forum, if they aren't working, then adding another one is not a solution.
• It is too complicated: who will monitor firstly hundreds and then thousands of users of the forum to give all of them these badges? Moderators? We or will have this system not working or will start losing moderators very soon as there's too much work.
• Criteria is not universal: some can have all nonsense posts in crypto topics and others can have several very important and informative posts in the crypto topics and many simple posts in off topic boards, but the second ones will be more valuable users for the forum. "Who are the judges?", like if was asked in one famous comedy in verse "Woe from Wit" by Alexander Griboyedov.

I like the example you gave, but let's analyse it again.
Switzerland is a rich country, with most people have well paid jobs, now introduce basic income, you'll need to increase taxes to benefit a small percentage of the population.
It's a great example because it proves my point, people refused to pass a law that would tax the majority and create a safety net for everyone (sick, elderly, young men, young women, ...), it was a way to free people from the need to enter the job market asap and start slaving, maybe focus on what you like, seek job in what you enjoy, launch a business, upgrade your skills ... the majority rejected it, even though it would have given a better future for the next generations, they rejected it because they do not want tax increase.

Quality index, you have a lot of valid points that could be addressed.

[bitterguy28]

You would imagine that in a democracy, people would try to improve and try to progress.
You are wrong, democracy is not about that, it's about having the freedom to live in shit huts if the majority decides to.
In a way, the bigger the democracy is, the farther from ideals it goes.

democracy is what the majority needs or wants which ensures that most people would be getting what is beneficial to them if you look at it at another perspective, if most people are satisfied with the results and they have benefited then it is for the better no?

example: Do a big survey in any big democratic country, ask them:
Would you rather that we invest x amount to establish a moon base that would allow us further space exploration, or each citizen gets 50$/200$ next month ?

I bet that in most democratic countries, the answer would be: give me the money.

this happens because people really do need money further space exploration would not feed the poor so obviously most people would rather choose the money if the society from the start gave everyone what they need then they would not be choosing the money anymore since they don’t desperately need it

Like in capital driven democracies, capital driven forum participation is not seeking the moon base but rather seeking the quick buck.

i am quite confused the system that is being implemented about quality posts seem to be a good idea and honestly can help categorize members of the forum if you don’t want to be classified as those with poor quality of posts then go and post higher quality content

your analogy is interesting but i don’t quite get the connection

[laijsica]

At present, democracy means capitalist regime is in operation in the world. The democratic rulers continue to exploit the support of the people and introduce a capitalist social system that creates more opportunities for the country's big businessmen to evade taxes and often release taxes. Commodity prices are gradually increasing and people's incomes are not increasing at that rate but the wealth of a class of exploiters is constantly increasing.