Send Karma visible for user!

[Findingnemo]

We knew that Karma log is not visible for anyone to avoid drama related to sending negative Karma which all understandable but how about we have a system like which we can see how much karma we send in the last 30/60days and that will be only accessible by the user not by anyone else that doesn't contradicting with the reason why Karma is not public but also will help us to analyze whether we are using the Karma effectively.

Because we can't keep count when lot of things are going on so I feel it will be a good effective method and harmless to anyone.

Let's hear your opinions about this from community members.

Also don't forget the vote the poll.

[_act_]

I will prefer the karma to be seen by everybody so that the karma will not be abused. Karma can easily be abuse which is the reason we should be able to see it.

But I noticed that people on Bitcointalk are here and they are posting in a good way. I do not think there is any need for this but if we can see everybody's karma, it will be good.

As for your suggestion, I do not like it. Why should the person be the only one to see it without other people seeing it. I do not think it is a good idea.

[dragononcrypto]

I will prefer the karma to be seen by everybody so that the karma will not be abused. Karma can easily be abuse which is the reason we should be able to see it.

It's true that it's very easy to abuse karma, fortunately it's even easier to catch those who do so and revoke their issuance. From a mod perspective it's generally better to "give someone enough rope", so that they can expose themselves as an abuser or cheater and can be punished sooner, rather than going under the radar until they are eventually caught, which can sometimes take years.

The main reason to avoid open karma logs is to avoid more retaliatory abuse of karma. As for the original proposal I don't really see the benefit.

[Hatchy]

The main reason to avoid open karma logs is to avoid more retaliatory abuse of karma. As for the original proposal I don't really see the benefit.

I'm not criticizing the admin or moderators; they're doing their best. However, since many BTT members relocated here, I've noticed significant improvements on Altcoinstalks compared to years ago.Now, with the increased membership, I think it's challenging for admins and mods to detect all karma system abusers.

Making the karma log public would deter abusers, as they'd know everyone can see their activity. Similar to BTT's merit system, transparency helps reduce abuse. If members can see who sends and receives karma, it would Encourage quality posts.if I receive karma for a post, I'll create more engaging content on that topic.Public logs would help identify and address negative karma abuse.

I propose making the karma log visible to everyone to promote healthy engagement and quality content.

[Findingnemo]

As for the original proposal I don't really see the benefit.

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I wish for the Karma to be visible for everyone but admin insisted about that already so it's off the table and I am never gonna bring it anymore but this isn't about the karma received, it's just about whether we use the system effectively because we need some kind of remember for most of the things or else it will just go unattended.

In case I am not that clear give you a better example, it's like we get to see which post we merited (not our posts that received merits).

[dragononcrypto]

The main reason to avoid open karma logs is to avoid more retaliatory abuse of karma. As for the original proposal I don't really see the benefit.

Now, with the increased membership, I think it's challenging for admins and mods to detect all karma system abusers.

As I said, it's really not. The logs are pretty straightforward to analyse, smiting much less difficult also as not that much of it, but I don't expect you to take my word for it either.

Making the karma log public would deter abusers, as they'd know everyone can see their activity.

Again as a mod not interested in deterring abusers, because those who want to abuse the system generally want to abuse the forum rules as well, and they more often than not will find a way to do so without easily being detected. Allowing them to abuse the system means they can be caught much easier and quicker, as they are more likely to think that they can get away with it without karma logs being public.

If members can see who sends and receives karma, it would Encourage quality posts.if I receive karma for a post, I'll create more engaging content on that topic.Public logs would help identify and address negative karma abuse.

This comes back to an alternative proposal of identifying posts that have received positive or negative karma, without identifying the issuer, which I am all in favour of, and was something admin was previously working on. We don't need to know who issued the karma to know that a post was considered useful or otherwise a post was considered spam.

I'm not criticizing the admin or moderators; they're doing their best.

You're otherwise welcome to criticise admin or mods 

[KingsDen]

I am yet to understand how seeing the sent karma log will help one to use the karma effectively. How will it help?

• To enable you track who you send karma to?
• Or to know if you are over giving or over receiving karma?

I am of the opinion that we should just leave the karma system the way it is until when it's time for readjustment.

[joniboini]

Or to know if you are over giving or over receiving karma?

I can see this being useful, but I don't think the urgency is that high since there is no limit on how much karma we can give iirc. Other than that I don't think I'll need this feature that much. I don't particularly look at who posts a post when I want to give karma. Given enough time I'll notice the good posters anyway, so I don't need to track whom I gave karma to.

[Findingnemo]

• To enable you track who you send karma to?
• Or to know if you are over giving or over receiving karma?

To know I am giving karma at all, because we can identify the good posters for sure but there is no indication of whatsoever whether we gave karma at all because we may forget to give and there are also times we could be given negative karma instead of positive due to fat fingers like me.

And also I believe it will help us the opportunity to analyse our spending nature that can be altered if we find its needed but with the current system we have no idea at all.

[libert19]

Have seen this mentioned before, and my response is same, I'd like it. I receive karma received notification and I feel elated, I would like to know which post received the karma, so I can look at it a few times and feel good about myself, lol.

[Thyplaymaker]

Have seen this mentioned before, and my response is same, I'd like it. I receive karma received notification and I feel elated, I would like to know which post received the karma, so I can look at it a few times and feel good about myself, lol.

Yeah so that you can easily learn from those mistakes. Because if you can't see your wrong are you going to make things right, what I mean is that the chances of us repeating that same mistake is high because we don't know where we literally go wrong. So with karma being visible will be easy to detect those that abuse it also with those mistakes one has made without knowing.

[KingsDen]

Have seen this mentioned before, and my response is same, I'd like it. I receive karma received notification and I feel elated, I would like to know which post received the karma, so I can look at it a few times and feel good about myself, lol.

This is nice and making sense, quite different from what Op is requesting. Knowing my post that recieved karma be it positive or negative will help me improve on the positive posts and reduce the type of posts that get me negative karma.

But having to know my karma log will help me by no means. This is because I give karma according to the quality of post, so I might not even want to know the posts or users I give karma, but the karma receiver might want to know.

[bitmover]

The main reason to avoid open karma logs is to avoid more retaliatory abuse of karma. As for the original proposal I don't really see the benefit.

Making karma visible may even increase post quality.

People will know which posts are considered the best for the community , and make more posts like that

Positive feedback is important so people know how they can really improve themselves

[examplens]

I'm not in favour of everyone having access to the karma log. An insight into who gave to whom - karma would certainly be a good training ground for dramas and faith.
Given that there are rare cases when a karma review is needed, the admin and moderators handle it easily and that is quite enough.

Showing how many + or - karma points a certain post has received could probably help in identifying good and bad posts.

Also, I don't see a particular purpose in having information on how many karma points I have given if I have them 'unlimited'. Unlimited I mean that we are not conditioned to earn them like merit on Btt

In the end, a lot depends on the admin and how much it is possible to improve the karma system in that direction.

[NotATether]

It is technically challenging to implement the code required to display karma. It does not come natively with Simple Machine Forum software, which is to say that it's not supported and must be implemented yourself with custom code. That's how it was done on the other forum, although this time there is the technical challenge of list everyone who has sent a karma to someone else. That data is inside the forum's database but I think it must be filtered first.