Send Karma visible for user!

[examplens]

It is technically challenging to implement the code required to display karma. It does not come natively with Simple Machine Forum software, which is to say that it's not supported and must be implemented yourself with custom code. That's how it was done on the other forum, although this time there is the technical challenge of list everyone who has sent a karma to someone else. That data is inside the forum's database but I think it must be filtered first.

This is what should be kept in mind when making various requests. I assume that the biggest challenge is to do any kind of innovation without impairing the functionality of the forum. I believe that the reason why Btt remained on the outdated version of SMF is in many customizations and some subsequent changes may cause additional malfunctions.

[robelneo]

OP posted the intention on why he created the discussion so I voted for yes, so I will use what is
intended to be and this is to analyze how I give my karma to everyone.

If there is modification software like this, I voted for it to be added, but every forum has its own ways, and I'm sure admins wants to differentiate themselves to other and they don't want to be a copy paste of the other forums.

[dragononcrypto]

The main reason to avoid open karma logs is to avoid more retaliatory abuse of karma. As for the original proposal I don't really see the benefit.

Making karma visible may even increase post quality.

People will know which posts are considered the best for the community , and make more posts like that

Making it known which posts receive karma could certainly do this, opening karma logs does nothing to benefit this by comparison.

Positive feedback is important so people know how they can really improve themselves

Likewise with negative karma, it would help users to avoid making mistakes that lead to it.

But this comes back to the issue of difficulty in implementing such a change...

[Freemind]

"Freemind you spend the day saying the same thing when we talk about Karma"... I know some of you may think that phrase when reading this post that not making Karma logs public is avoiding a lot of unnecessary problems and confrontations that would only create a bad atmosphere on the forum. Matters related to karma (abuse) will be resolved by the administrator or someone designated by the administrator.

Believe me when I tell you that opening the logs would only be problems and more problems.

[Findingnemo]

Believe me when I tell you that opening the logs would only be problems and more problems.

Well, making it public was not my request. It's just about making it visible only for who send it so the user who received will have no idea so there will be no drama related to Karma and I wanted this to see for myself just to make sure I am using the Karma enough because it's easy to forget to use karma even if we wanted to and having some kind of data regarding how much we sent will help through this. But I understand it can be difficult to implement but if possible I would want it.

[Freemind]

Well, making it public was not my request. It's just about making it visible only for who send it so the user who received will have no idea so there will be no drama related to Karma and I wanted this to see for myself just to make sure I am using the Karma enough because it's easy to forget to use karma even if we wanted to and having some kind of data regarding how much we sent will help through this. But I understand it can be difficult to implement but if possible I would want it.

I understand it, but as you say, not only the implementation could be a problem, but also all the possible errors that it could cause in the forum, such as crashes for example. That's why the admin is not currently working on the Karma counter that would appear on all posts. It was a good idea, but it was finally discarded precisely because of the number of hours of work it required but above all because of the implementation problems. There is no simple solution that can satisfy all users, however, the more possible ideas we provide, the sooner we can work on the most appropriate one.

[bitmover]

But this comes back to the issue of difficulty in implementing such a change...

I am sure admin is capable.

With the list of posts which receive karma and the post ID, I can create a browser extension to do that in a few hours. 

[Freemind]

I am sure admin is capable.

With the list of posts which receive karma and the post ID, I can create a browser extension to do that in a few hours.

It is not just about the technical complexity it may have, as I said in my previous post, it is about the imbalances that it can create in the forum for many reasons and the problems that arise from this. The administrator would have to do a lot of testing and that, in the worst case, can translate into hours (or more) with the forum down.

Posts like yours make my day because of the willingness and desire to improve the forum.

+2.

[admin]

But this comes back to the issue of difficulty in implementing such a change...

I am sure admin is capable.

With the list of posts which receive karma and the post ID, I can create a browser extension to do that in a few hours.

the issue is the karma system is not linked to the posts but the users, linking the karma to the posts is a whole lot of work

[PX-Z]

the issue is the karma system is not linked to the posts but the users, linking the karma to the posts is a whole lot of work

Now that you mentioned it, it's probably a problem and those problems (linking karma to posts) cannot be resolved. I thought it's possible since there is msg_id (m=xxx) parameter when clicking the karma button/anchor.

[bitmover]

the issue is the karma system is not linked to the posts but the users, linking the karma to the posts is a whole lot of work

Now that you mentioned it, it's probably a problem and those problems (linking karma to posts) cannot be resolved. I thought it's possible since there is msg_id (m=xxx) parameter when clicking the karma button/anchor.

I have seen admin saying he knew to which post someone gave negative karma. So probably it is not simple, but doable. Maybe some joins or something like that...

[admin]

the issue is the karma system is not linked to the posts but the users, linking the karma to the posts is a whole lot of work

Now that you mentioned it, it's probably a problem and those problems (linking karma to posts) cannot be resolved. I thought it's possible since there is msg_id (m=xxx) parameter when clicking the karma button/anchor.

I have seen admin saying he knew to which post someone gave negative karma. So probably it is not simple, but doable. Maybe some joins or something like that...

no we have no info concerning the post associated with the karma
here's how it looks like

[PX-Z]

I have seen admin saying he knew to which post someone gave negative karma. So probably it is not simple, but doable. Maybe some joins or something like that...

no we have no info concerning the post associated with the karma
here's how it looks like

Ah yeah, no doubt.

A modification can be done and it will be possible as just like i said topic_id and msg_id is seen in parameters when clicking +-karma.

Like this below.

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https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=modifykarma;sa=applaud;uid=1;topic=324388.15;m=1631678;xxx=xxx
So adding this two topic_id (topic) and msg_id (m) for new columns. Post data to insert in db, would be possible only for the future sending karma.

[examplens]

Post data to insert in db, would be possible only for the future sending karma.

This is certainly an acceptable solution. Over time, quality posts will stand out.

[bitmover]

Post data to insert in db, would be possible only for the future sending karma.

This is certainly an acceptable solution. Over time, quality posts will stand out.

Sad that the past history would be lost. But as admin said, looks like karma history with post id doesn't exist...

I think this is very important, and should be implemented so we can see which posts are the best ones and receive most karma