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In your opinion, who is the major cause and driver of bad government

100% the followers (citizens, majority)
1 (100%)
100% the leaders (few)
0 (0%)
50%ledars and 50%followers
0 (0%)
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0 (0%)
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Total Members Voted: 1

Voting closed: October 04, 2024, 01:41:26 PM

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Governance in the federation
« on: September 27, 2024, 01:41:26 PM »
Considering the recent happenings (national economy, elections and elections related etc), let's do some analysis to identify the major sources of the problem which should help in getting solutions definitely.

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Governance in the federation
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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2024, 03:11:08 PM »
Considering the recent happenings (national economy, elections and elections related etc), let's do some analysis to identify the major sources of the problem which should help in getting solutions definitely.

And what use will this have in real life case? Nothing. See we keep getting this kind of discussions across all social media platforms and forums and yet nothing is being done in real life that will cause and actual change.

Nigerians are always quick to analyze and tell you the problem but not a single one of us are doing anything that will help to solve that problem.
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Re: Governance in the federation
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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2024, 06:31:19 PM »
Considering the recent happenings (national economy, elections and elections related etc), let's do some analysis to identify the major sources of the problem which should help in getting solutions definitely.
It is not about the problems because a lot of people knows the problem, but it is about how to solve the problem which has finally become a big problem to the country. The number one problem is bad leaders and corruption. Tell me now how this can be solved in reality and not by mere talking without having any effect on the system. Tribalism and Nepotism will not allow these problems to be solved.

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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2024, 11:10:42 AM »
Considering the recent happenings (national economy, elections and elections related etc), let's do some analysis to identify the major sources of the problem which should help in getting solutions definitely.
It is better not to talk about our economy as nothing would be implemented and besides your voice doesn't count to our government, you could be here striving solution and the main implementation lays in the hands of our government which they aren't ready for any day to fix such a thing. Do you think you are much more better than them?

NO! because they knew what they are doing over there not because the hardship of the country doesn't get into them as human and individuals they are but they are just being so wicked just to accumulates for their next offspring and generations, relatives and etc. So it's advisable to put your efforts on something that would be benefiting yourself and not counting on the country.

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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2024, 05:21:50 PM »
We are not looking for solution here but just for discussion shake. There are three people that causing the problem of Nigeria. One Independent National Commission (INEC). I will not blame the citizens because we are not seers and we vote whom we think will be a Messiah for us but the opposite is always found. And now that the citizens has voted the candidate of their choice, the commission would manipulate the figures to favour someone whom we didn't vote for. And we accept. Now when the person can't perform to the expectations of the citizens. It is the same citizens whom INEC claim from their figures can protest the bad leader to a good shape but the Nigerian Police and Military would support the bad government to intimidating the citizens who are ready to protest against the bad leaders. And the lawyers who supposed speak for the citizens are also part of the oppressions team. So finally the citizens have nobody to support but themselves.

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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2024, 12:35:48 PM »
We are not looking for solution here but just for discussion shake. There are three people that causing the problem of Nigeria. One Independent National Commission (INEC). I will not blame the citizens because we are not seers and we vote whom we think will be a Messiah for us but the opposite is always found. And now that the citizens has voted the candidate of their choice, the commission would manipulate the figures to favour someone whom we didn't vote for. And we accept. Now when the person can't perform to the expectations of the citizens. It is the same citizens whom INEC claim from their figures can protest the bad leader to a good shape but the Nigerian Police and Military would support the bad government to intimidating the citizens who are ready to protest against the bad leaders. And the lawyers who supposed speak for the citizens are also part of the oppressions team. So finally the citizens have nobody to support but themselves.

I thought you would mention the judiciary here but I could not see it. Anyways the judiciary is another funny arm of the government that needs to be put in order. The judiciary that used to be the last resort and hope of the ordinary citizens is now the highest bidder takes it all. I wonder how it got to the point where the judiciary became so porous that they lost their judgmental IQ.

These days people do not bother going to the judiciary anymore because of the unfortunate and biased judgements they get from the judgements. Election tribunal is no more dependable for good judgement even if the contestants go to court, it is a thing of the highest bidder takes it all. What a shame, the whole system is messed up begging for  resuscitation.
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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2024, 02:00:28 PM »
Considering the recent happenings (national economy, elections and elections related etc), let's do some analysis to identify the major sources of the problem which should help in getting solutions definitely.

And what use will this have in real life case? Nothing. See we keep getting this kind of discussions across all social media platforms and forums and yet nothing is being done in real life that will cause and actual change.

Nigerians are always quick to analyze and tell you the problem but not a single one of us are doing anything that will help to solve that problem.
If you were a female, I did love to give you a good kiss 😘 for this input, it's simple and straightforward, and hit the nail on the head.

Personally, I am tired of discussing matters like this online, politics, elections, what ever is related to it, and this is because we are only and always wasting our time, major reason being that, those we are talking or discussing about aren't even here and reading, and the chances that they may ever come across any of the things we post here stands at a 0.00000001 percent, which is as good as impossible.

Personally, it's always better we focus our discussions on sharing financial opportunities, one that will bring us money, because with money, atleast, half of the problems we complain about in Nigeria will be solved, doesn't matter if it's politics or whatever.
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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2024, 02:00:28 PM »


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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2024, 06:29:04 AM »
Considering the recent happenings (national economy, elections and elections related etc), let's do some analysis to identify the major sources of the problem which should help in getting solutions definitely.

And what use will this have in real life case? Nothing. See we keep getting this kind of discussions across all social media platforms and forums and yet nothing is being done in real life that will cause and actual change.

Nigerians are always quick to analyze and tell you the problem but not a single one of us are doing anything that will help to solve that problem.
~snip

Personally, it's always better we focus our discussions on sharing financial opportunities, one that will bring us money, because with money, atleast, half of the problems we complain about in Nigeria will be solved, doesn't matter if it's politics or whatever.

And funny enough, when you walk past a group of people discussing politicians and the current issues, you might think their discussion will lead to results by the end of the day. But unfortunately, it often ends right at that moment. We don't really know how to convince many Nigerians that democracy is long gone, and those in power are no longer the government of the people.

The only thing that can benefit both of us now is sharing financial information opportunities. The another problem is that many Nigerians tend to withhold sensitive information because they don't want others to do better than them, which is not helpful as it costs nothing to do so.
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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2024, 11:43:41 AM »
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The only thing that can benefit both of us now is sharing financial information opportunities. The another problem is that many Nigerians tend to withhold sensitive information because they don't want others to do better than them, which is not helpful as it costs nothing to do so.

I will agree with your observations here because this is common amongst Nigerians. They hoard information and refuse to help others.and I don't know why this mentality and reasoning all of a sudden. Most Nigerians do this so that they would only be the ones leading and wants others to be at their mercy and sing their praises because they alone knows it all which is very bad.

 I have had this experience in the past where a friend hoarded an information in the department that could have been of help to other students funny enough he did not scale through the process because he was the only one and was not eligible for it so the department decided to choose from other students and did what they wanted to do. He lost it all and it was like a dream that he lost everything that he thought he would get alone that day. This made other students do away with him and that was how lost everything.
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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2024, 02:58:43 PM »
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 I have had this experience in the past where a friend hoarded an information in the department that could have been of help to other students funny enough he did not scale through the process because he was the only one and was not eligible for it so the department decided to choose from other students and did what they wanted to do. He lost it all and it was like a dream that he lost everything that he thought he would get alone that day. This made other students do away with him and that was how lost everything.

And we are busy making complaints about the government and their incompetence, while we as individuals can't even assist with the little that won't cost a dime. I see no reason why someone will prefer to be the only success among others, when it would have been best If everyone around where just independent. And the truth is, so many of these people ends up without having friends because no one would want to associate with anyone that doesn't carry others along. And I feel this people only think so much about the present, while forgetting that no man lives forever.
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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2024, 03:18:50 PM »
~snip

 I have had this experience in the past where a friend hoarded an information in the department that could have been of help to other students funny enough he did not scale through the process because he was the only one and was not eligible for it so the department decided to choose from other students and did what they wanted to do. He lost it all and it was like a dream that he lost everything that he thought he would get alone that day. This made other students do away with him and that was how lost everything.

And we are busy making complaints about the government and their incompetence, while we as individuals can't even assist with the little that won't cost a dime. I see no reason why someone will prefer to be the only success among others, when it would have been best If everyone around where just independent. And the truth is, so many of these people ends up without having friends because no one would want to associate with anyone that doesn't carry others along. And I feel this people only think so much about the present, while forgetting that no man lives forever.

Sometimes I wonder what some people do benefit from hoarding information from their peers. What will it benefit them doing so. Do they derive pleasure in seeing their friends, family and loved ones being in abject poverty? Or they prefer that it should be only them that should be the all and all in the space and others should now to them in obeisances.

What is the point of all these? I was wondering and had a dip thought about it but the truth is that you can not change people, no matter how you talk to them, they are still going to do the same, it s just who they are and nothing can change anything about it.
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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2024, 11:40:37 PM »
Yeah of course this has no importance analyzing the problem of Nigeria is just like speaking to the deaf whereby after much talks and advice still nothing changes. We have been seeing this topic everywhere on social media, on TV, real life and still nothing is happening ain't we tired about these analysis. But to be frank I like listening to men arguing about the problem of Nigeria you see men shouting on top of their heads talking about Nigeria but at the end no action no solution it only ends with a glass of dry gin or beer and at the end of the day everyone returns home.
So any analysis of Nigeria without solution is irrelevant.
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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2024, 06:16:11 AM »
Yeah of course this has no importance analyzing the problem of Nigeria is just like speaking to the deaf whereby after much talks and advice still nothing changes. We have been seeing this topic everywhere on social media, on TV, real life and still nothing is happening ain't we tired about these analysis. But to be frank I like listening to men arguing about the problem of Nigeria you see men shouting on top of their heads talking about Nigeria but at the end no action no solution it only ends with a glass of dry gin or beer and at the end of the day everyone returns home.
So any analysis of Nigeria without solution is irrelevant.
For the description of the situation in Nigeria that you expressed you frustration is quite explicable. When conversations happen with little follow-up the end result is just draining and sceptical. It is very much a fact that the problems which are ahead of the country are very multifaceted and that is why when the two sides are not able to come up with concrete solutions through the course of the argument it is possible to feel like all that has been done is in vain. I think watching the same topics with the same stereotyped discussions on social networks, on TV, and in conversations without any progression can easily cause mental exhaustion and disengagement.

But to complete the whole perception, discussions stay very crucial. In fact, without necessarily offering any positive outcomes, these discussions and arguments may eventually create leads to inform the public. It is finally that one must take the decisive step, stop simply talking about it. Perhaps as a society we should stop arguing about what we disagree and start thinking on how we can begin to make other even the smallest positive step towards change. Not every solution necessarily suggests a radical change that may take place yesterday, but any beginning is better than no beginning if it is sustained consistently.

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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2024, 06:55:51 PM »
Yeah of course this has no importance analyzing the problem of Nigeria is just like speaking to the deaf whereby after much talks and advice still nothing changes. We have been seeing this topic everywhere on social media, on TV, real life and still nothing is happening ain't we tired about these analysis. But to be frank I like listening to men arguing about the problem of Nigeria you see men shouting on top of their heads talking about Nigeria but at the end no action no solution it only ends with a glass of dry gin or beer and at the end of the day everyone returns home.
So any analysis of Nigeria without solution is irrelevant.
I know that discussions about Nigeria’s problems look rather boring, and they are constant with no desired outcome, but these discussions are still significant. Such discussions remain valuable because they assist in making us understand that these are not simple issues we are dealing with. Maybe it is high time to turn all our attention to the matters taking place in our surrounding and take effective action based on them which are feasible and achievable in the immediate future. With this awareness elicited by these conversations, change at the local level and good impact on environment can be achieved. That is how these changes begin: when everyone starts taking action, no matter how little, and, collectively, changes can occur.

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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2024, 07:39:05 PM »
We are not looking for solution here but just for discussion shake. There are three people that causing the problem of Nigeria. One Independent National Commission (INEC). I will not blame the citizens because we are not seers and we vote whom we think will be a Messiah for us but the opposite is always found. And now that the citizens has voted the candidate of their choice, the commission would manipulate the figures to favour someone whom we didn't vote for. And we accept. Now when the person can't perform to the expectations of the citizens. It is the same citizens whom INEC claim from their figures can protest the bad leader to a good shape but the Nigerian Police and Military would support the bad government to intimidating the citizens who are ready to protest against the bad leaders. And the lawyers who supposed speak for the citizens are also part of the oppressions team. So finally the citizens have nobody to support but themselves.
I agree with you mate, that INEC is the number one problem of this country bad leaders and fueling corruption. INEC turned democracy into the opposite and citizens are not allowed to vote for their choice of leaders and let their votes count. The Judiciary is also another, because that is where the common man runs to for justice but instead, the judiciary supports only the rich due to corruption.

 

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