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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2024, 11:49:44 AM »
Considering the recent happenings (national economy, elections and elections related etc), let's do some analysis to identify the major sources of the problem which should help in getting solutions definitely.

And what use will this have in real life case? Nothing. See we keep getting this kind of discussions across all social media platforms and forums and yet nothing is being done in real life that will cause and actual change.

Nigerians are always quick to analyze and tell you the problem but not a single one of us are doing anything that will help to solve that problem.

That's true. It's high time Nigerians take action physically not online.. we' talk online with zero effort offline. Sad sha..

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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2024, 03:33:45 PM »

That's true. It's high time Nigerians take action physically not online.. we' talk online with zero effort offline. Sad sha..

Until people start falling down in the middle of streets and start dying from hunger before some people will start taking this shit seriously.

If a movement starts now, trust me those that were opportuned to have a member of their family in one position will go out and start to preach that people shouldn’t involve themselves in that movement. We saw the last protest and how some foolish influencers who we being blinded by the money they got from the government went on to their social media handle and started to get citizens to remain in their house and some brain rotted fans of theirs also went as far as reposting it for others to see. It’s just crazy to be honest.
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Re: Governance in the federation
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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2024, 10:40:12 PM »
Is only the poors that realized the problems of the country because they are the ones that are experiencing it, and it killing them, that is why they are discussing it again and again, hoping for things to fall into place, if the poors have the ability/power to solve the problems they would have done that long before, the only rights we have to prevent bad government is by voting to who we think worth it, just as some people said earlier, but the right has been secretly snatched away from us by INEC, after all they are ones conducting the elections, they will be bribe to conduct fake results and whoever disagree with them will be threatened with his life or his love ones, because a lot of people will vote for a particular candidate and at the end the person that you didn't imagine will be the winner. If that is the case what is the essence of frustrating the citizens to vote, if their voting doesn't count. Eventually everyone is tired of discussing the problems we are facing in the country, because nobody as attempt to solve the problems.
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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2024, 05:04:41 AM »
We are not looking for solution here but just for discussion shake. There are three people that causing the problem of Nigeria. One Independent National Commission (INEC). I will not blame the citizens because we are not seers and we vote whom we think will be a Messiah for us but the opposite is always found. And now that the citizens has voted the candidate of their choice, the commission would manipulate the figures to favour someone whom we didn't vote for. And we accept. Now when the person can't perform to the expectations of the citizens. It is the same citizens whom INEC claim from their figures can protest the bad leader to a good shape but the Nigerian Police and Military would support the bad government to intimidating the citizens who are ready to protest against the bad leaders. And the lawyers who supposed speak for the citizens are also part of the oppressions team. So finally the citizens have nobody to support but themselves.

You're correct. It's difficult to determine which candidate will be best for the citizens, because after we vote for them to see a positive change, they all turn to give us the opposite result. We have seen the current administration's weaknesses, but I worry about who will take over in the future and whether they will be there to help the citizens or for the same purpose the current administration came for.

When will the citizens receive the best they've been hoping for? We voted for candidates and parties during the previous administration because our leaders kept confusing us about which one to vote for to get the best and some said we should vote for the candidates or party, and the results were always the same. I hope the next goes well for us, if not, the next always be more difficult I don't know if that is a law.

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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2024, 02:05:15 AM »
We are not looking for solution here but just for discussion shake. There are three people that causing the problem of Nigeria. One Independent National Commission (INEC). I will not blame the citizens because we are not seers and we vote whom we think will be a Messiah for us but the opposite is always found. And now that the citizens has voted the candidate of their choice, the commission would manipulate the figures to favour someone whom we didn't vote for. And we accept. Now when the person can't perform to the expectations of the citizens. It is the same citizens whom INEC claim from their figures can protest the bad leader to a good shape but the Nigerian Police and Military would support the bad government to intimidating the citizens who are ready to protest against the bad leaders. And the lawyers who supposed speak for the citizens are also part of the oppressions team. So finally the citizens have nobody to support but themselves.

You're correct. It's difficult to determine which candidate will be best for the citizens, because after we vote for them to see a positive change, they all turn to give us the opposite result. We have seen the current administration's weaknesses, but I worry about who will take over in the future and whether they will be there to help the citizens or for the same purpose the current administration came for.

When will the citizens receive the best they've been hoping for? We voted for candidates and parties during the previous administration because our leaders kept confusing us about which one to vote for to get the best and some said we should vote for the candidates or party, and the results were always the same. I hope the next goes well for us, if not, the next always be more difficult I don't know if that is a law.
Selecting the right leader is the dream of every voter, but this is a process that is normally associated with disappointments and calculus. The message of the essay is that Parnell and his administration never provide actual information about governmental performance and thus the independent efforts persist for the people to be active in order to bring change. When we use our voice for the greater good, that hope is not lost.

I really think it is necessary to continue believing that our straightforward contribution fits into a long-term process of change that may not always end in the desired manner. We thus contribute to the construction of a more healthful political environment by supporting the practical approach that includes the process. To change we need to be consistent and that begins here with what we are for.
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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2025, 09:32:45 PM »
Considering the recent happenings (national economy, elections and elections related etc), let's do some analysis to identify the major sources of the problem which should help in getting solutions definitely.
The major source of our problem are simply the the electoral candidates, i.e our leader, you don't expect a positive result or a change in the country when the same set of people keeps coming to represent us

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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2025, 11:52:00 PM »
The major source of our problem are simply the the electoral candidates, i.e our leader, you don't expect a positive result or a change in the country when the same set of people keeps coming to represent us
The same set of people keep finding a way to rob people of their votes and find their way into power, and unfortunately we let them because it seems most Nigerians are tired of trying. Sad situation indeed, a situation that looks like it is going to continue without change.
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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2025, 11:52:00 PM »


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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2025, 04:37:27 AM »
We are not looking for solution here but just for discussion shake. There are three people that causing the problem of Nigeria. One Independent National Commission (INEC). I will not blame the citizens because we are not seers and we vote whom we think will be a Messiah for us but the opposite is always found. And now that the citizens has voted the candidate of their choice, the commission would manipulate the figures to favour someone whom we didn't vote for. And we accept. Now when the person can't perform to the expectations of the citizens. It is the same citizens whom INEC claim from their figures can protest the bad leader to a good shape but the Nigerian Police and Military would support the bad government to intimidating the citizens who are ready to protest against the bad leaders. And the lawyers who supposed speak for the citizens are also part of the oppressions team. So finally the citizens have nobody to support but themselves.
I agree with you mate, that INEC is the number one problem of this country bad leaders and fueling corruption. INEC turned democracy into the opposite and citizens are not allowed to vote for their choice of leaders and let their votes count. The Judiciary is also another, because that is where the common man runs to for justice but instead, the judiciary supports only the rich due to corruption.
Hmm a lot is going on in this our country, imagine citizens votes won’t count some are not even recorded but all those INEC and the judiciary are all same government they are Godfathers who controlled them and still they are under those making the difficulties in the country. The poor also get discriminated around the riches and easily the poor are being trashed in this our country even the saying that goes “everyone is equal before  the law” is not really working in this our country the government body are really making everything worse and the economy is getting more negative.
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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2025, 05:35:04 AM »
The same set of people keep finding a way to rob people of their votes and find their way into power, and unfortunately we let them because it seems most Nigerians are tired of trying. Sad situation indeed, a situation that looks like it is going to continue without change.
The "one Nigeria" confession is more like a gist these days. Most times when a person standing out for the good of the general, they either bring him down or others abstain from assisting and supporting his notion and over time it just fades away.
So it's more like those at the top benefitting from an ill system won't recognise the illness of the system and those trying to get rid of those illnesses become their enemies.
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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2025, 03:05:09 PM »
Considering the recent happenings (national economy, elections and elections related etc), let's do some analysis to identify the major sources of the problem which should help in getting solutions definitely.
The major source of our problem are simply the the electoral candidates, i.e our leader, you don't expect a positive result or a change in the country when the same set of people keeps coming to represent us
Small actions proves that big change is possible if we can all work towards a common cause. Even though the Electoral candidates have a part to play in the whole mishaps in the country, let's not still forget the fact that there are still some people who are still fully backing up this leader. We lack one voice that is the major problem we have as citizens, when a person is against a leader another citizen is fully in support that government, maybe because of fear or the little benefits he or she is receiving.
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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2025, 10:59:23 PM »
The major source of our problem are simply the the electoral candidates, i.e our leader, you don't expect a positive result or a change in the country when the same set of people keeps coming to represent us
The same set of people keep finding a way to rob people of their votes and find their way into power, and unfortunately we let them because it seems most Nigerians are tired of trying. Sad situation indeed, a situation that looks like it is going to continue without change.

This is very sad and disheartening, that the citizens are tired and have nothing to say or do, because whatever is done by the citizens has no effect, and can't change what will be.

The electoral commission who are responsible for providing the actual votes casted by the people, will openly void it and make a total change to everything. If they can stand to say the truth, we will see positive changes, but because of the fear of death, they take bribery and do what they are told and receive the cash attached to it.

When things are going wrong, it is tagged to be right in their site, and when things are to be right, it is seen as wrong and with all hatred and power, they fight it down.
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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2025, 09:26:50 PM »
The major source of our problem are simply the the electoral candidates, i.e our leader, you don't expect a positive result or a change in the country when the same set of people keeps coming to represent us
The same set of people keep finding a way to rob people of their votes and find their way into power, and unfortunately we let them because it seems most Nigerians are tired of trying. Sad situation indeed, a situation that looks like it is going to continue without change.

This is very sad and disheartening, that the citizens are tired and have nothing to say or do, because whatever is done by the citizens has no effect, and can't change what will be.

The electoral commission who are responsible for providing the actual votes casted by the people, will openly void it and make a total change to everything. If they can stand to say the truth, we will see positive changes, but because of the fear of death, they take bribery and do what they are told and receive the cash attached to it.

When things are going wrong, it is tagged to be right in their site, and when things are to be right, it is seen as wrong and with all hatred and power, they fight it down.
Of a truth, the electoral commission is not helping matters at all, the commission is all about the highest bidder taking it all. They put us in the situation we find ourselves in now. Recently, there has been news circulating online that the national assembly refused or rejected a bill to change the name of INEC, and I was wondering how 
that affects the fact that they have done more harm than good to the nation.  Well, till the INEC is independent of leadership appointment, we just might still be in this handpicking and godfatherism system of politics we play here because they would always have their way through the commission.
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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2025, 09:59:01 PM »
The major source of our problem are simply the the electoral candidates, i.e our leader, you don't expect a positive result or a change in the country when the same set of people keeps coming to represent us
The same set of people keep finding a way to rob people of their votes and find their way into power, and unfortunately we let them because it seems most Nigerians are tired of trying. Sad situation indeed, a situation that looks like it is going to continue without change.

This is very sad and disheartening, that the citizens are tired and have nothing to say or do, because whatever is done by the citizens has no effect, and can't change what will be.

The electoral commission who are responsible for providing the actual votes casted by the people, will openly void it and make a total change to everything. If they can stand to say the truth, we will see positive changes, but because of the fear of death, they take bribery and do what they are told and receive the cash attached to it.

When things are going wrong, it is tagged to be right in their site, and when things are to be right, it is seen as wrong and with all hatred and power, they fight it down.
Of a truth, the electoral commission is not helping matters at all, the commission is all about the highest bidder taking it all. They put us in the situation we find ourselves in now. Recently, there has been news circulating online that the national assembly refused or rejected a bill to change the name of INEC, and I was wondering how 
that affects the fact that they have done more harm than good to the nation.  Well, till the INEC is independent of leadership appointment, we just might still be in this handpicking and godfatherism system of politics we play here because they would always have their way through the commission.

The forms of handpicking and godfatherism of selecting leaders of the country has eaten the country down to its roots/bones, with no hope of rising again to its feet. It is so disheartening that the votes of the people don't count anymore, and this has done down well with everyone, that the godfathers chose whom they want to seat and the INEC or Judiciaries can't do anything about it.

Nigeria has become a place where there is no problem before freedom of speech, but no freedom after the speech, that is where the issues lie.
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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2025, 11:13:48 PM »
The major source of our problem are simply the the electoral candidates, i.e our leader, you don't expect a positive result or a change in the country when the same set of people keeps coming to represent us
The same set of people keep finding a way to rob people of their votes and find their way into power, and unfortunately we let them because it seems most Nigerians are tired of trying. Sad situation indeed, a situation that looks like it is going to continue without change.

This is very sad and disheartening, that the citizens are tired and have nothing to say or do, because whatever is done by the citizens has no effect, and can't change what will be.

The electoral commission who are responsible for providing the actual votes casted by the people, will openly void it and make a total change to everything. If they can stand to say the truth, we will see positive changes, but because of the fear of death, they take bribery and do what they are told and receive the cash attached to it.

When things are going wrong, it is tagged to be right in their site, and when things are to be right, it is seen as wrong and with all hatred and power, they fight it down.
Of a truth, the electoral commission is not helping matters at all, the commission is all about the highest bidder taking it all. They put us in the situation we find ourselves in now. Recently, there has been news circulating online that the national assembly refused or rejected a bill to change the name of INEC, and I was wondering how 
that affects the fact that they have done more harm than good to the nation.  Well, till the INEC is independent of leadership appointment, we just might still be in this handpicking and godfatherism system of politics we play here because they would always have their way through the commission.

The forms of handpicking and godfatherism of selecting leaders of the country has eaten the country down to its roots/bones, with no hope of rising again to its feet. It is so disheartening that the votes of the people don't count anymore, and this has done down well with everyone, that the godfathers chose whom they want to seat and the INEC or Judiciaries can't do anything about it.

Nigeria has become a place where there is no problem before freedom of speech, but no freedom after the speech, that is where the issues lie.

Unfortunately, we found ourselves in this situation. As it is, we just have to be united towards achieving a change of power so that the youth can take over the government, but the truth is that the same sets of people you sit and discuss things with are the same sets of people who would sabotage the whole process selling out the information to their paymasters and everything would be truncated and efforts put together would be in vain. It happened in the popular end sars movement and other movements that Nigerians came out enmass to participate but how did it end. The judiciary is the worst of them all were they pay to win case, someone would just sit at their comfortzone and dictate what the judge will say and how the case and judgement would go. Its quite unfortunate where we found ourselves as a nation.
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Re: Governance in the federation
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2025, 04:12:26 PM »
Considering the recent happenings (national economy, elections and elections related etc), let's do some analysis to identify the major sources of the problem which should help in getting solutions definitely.
The major source of our problem are simply the the electoral candidates, i.e our leader, you don't expect a positive result or a change in the country when the same set of people keeps coming to represent us

There’s a song I listened to recently by  (Hypocrite) and it says;
“And what about even you voters
Wey dey act like say you only see two jokers
Recycle the same corrupt men
Later you complain you say you hate the government”

and this is so true, Nigerians know very well the true nature of most presidential candidates and yet they pay a deaf ears to their red flags and still go ahead and vote them. Few days ago while scrolling through Facebook I came across a post of a guy who was in support of Tinubu coming back to office in 2027 and his was simply because his dad was an early supporter of APC so because of that he’d also support the party no matter what and is we have others with that same sick mindset then I don’t think the country is going to progress anytime soon.
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