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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #75 on: February 07, 2025, 04:39:50 PM »
But it also takes a lot of time to learn how a person's posting habits and thoughts are on this forum.
Even though it uses the help of AI, literally the narrative and writing style cannot be fully imitated.
After all, AI is also prohibited from creating a paid post and using AI to comment is also not ethical enough without good knowledge from its users.
We are in 2025 not in 1925.
It doesn't take time to ''learn'' at all, you just feed it the links with previous posts and it's done.
Don't tell me you think that AI is actually learning anything you ask it to answer... it just copies it and changes it to fit the narrative and your question.

Wait! If you want AI to generate my posting style all I have to do is send what " link" ? Profile link or what link are you talking about? I might be behind all these AI stuff but there's always opportunity to learn a new thing..

I used Deepseek to generate some complex SQL code yesterday for work although I had to manually do some +/- afterwards but it did a great job for me and cut my work time by 45mins.
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #75 on: February 07, 2025, 04:39:50 PM »

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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #76 on: February 07, 2025, 09:27:08 PM »
Wait! If you want AI to generate my posting style all I have to do is send what " link" ? Profile link or what link are you talking about? I might be behind all these AI stuff but there's always opportunity to learn a new thing..

I used Deepseek to generate some complex SQL code yesterday for work although I had to manually do some +/- afterwards but it did a great job for me and cut my work time by 45mins.

To do what you say, I think you should only send one link, the one to your profile. Theoretically, the AI ​​would study your profile, including all your posts, to try to copy your writing style. But I still think that you can never make a copy of the writing style 100% identical to the user's, but a very similar copy could be made. In any case, and regardless of the degree of “perfection” the copy of the writing style has, I think it makes no sense to do something like that. It wouldn't be any use, in the context of "normal" use.
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #77 on: February 08, 2025, 06:36:03 PM »
We are in 2025 not in 1925.
It doesn't take time to ''learn'' at all, you just feed it the links with previous posts and it's done.
Don't tell me you think that AI is actually learning anything you ask it to answer... it just copies it and changes it to fit the narrative and your question.

To do what you say, I think you should only send one link, the one to your profile. Theoretically, the AI ​​would study your profile, including all your posts, to try to copy your writing style. But I still think that you can never make a copy of the writing style 100% identical to the user's, but a very similar copy could be made. In any case, and regardless of the degree of “perfection” the copy of the writing style has, I think it makes no sense to do something like that. It wouldn't be any use, in the context of "normal" use.
In fact, I tried it and asked Deepseek that he doesn't receive a link to learn how someone's writing style is done, the AI can't process the link externally, because it needs to be described, which means you have to copy all the posts to know how to know someone's writing style. But what is explained then is a general explanation related to writing style etc.

AI won't be able to replicate everything identically, there will be mismatches that can occur. AI won't be your doppelganger, it just happens in fictional movies.


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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #78 on: February 09, 2025, 09:11:20 AM »
~snip~
In fact, I tried it and asked Deepseek that he doesn't receive a link to learn how someone's writing style is done, the AI can't process the link externally, because it needs to be described, which means you have to copy all the posts to know how to know someone's writing style. But what is explained then is a general explanation related to writing style etc.

AI won't be able to replicate everything identically, there will be mismatches that can occur. AI won't be your doppelganger, it just happens in fictional movies.

I assumed there would be some kind of problem or limitation, which is why I said in my previous post "theoretically". I imagine that this limitation (and many others it may have) will be for legal reasons, and that it is only applicable to the majority of users. No one is going to copy all the posts from a profile one by one unless there is an automated way to do it.
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #79 on: February 09, 2025, 02:43:00 PM »
~snip~
In fact, I tried it and asked Deepseek that he doesn't receive a link to learn how someone's writing style is done, the AI can't process the link externally, because it needs to be described, which means you have to copy all the posts to know how to know someone's writing style. But what is explained then is a general explanation related to writing style etc.

AI won't be able to replicate everything identically, there will be mismatches that can occur. AI won't be your doppelganger, it just happens in fictional movies.

I assumed there would be some kind of problem or limitation, which is why I said in my previous post "theoretically". I imagine that this limitation (and many others it may have) will be for legal reasons, and that it is only applicable to the majority of users. No one is going to copy all the posts from a profile one by one unless there is an automated way to do it.
It is possible that some paid versions can search external sites.
If someone is active on Twitter, (X), there is a new AI tool "Grok" that will analyze posts on the account and give observations about writing style, interests, etc... I haven't tried it in that direction, but I assume that it can probably generate certain discussions based on such an analysis.
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #80 on: February 10, 2025, 03:32:50 PM »
It is possible that some paid versions can search external sites.
If someone is active on Twitter, (X), there is a new AI tool "Grok" that will analyze posts on the account and give observations about writing style, interests, etc... I haven't tried it in that direction, but I assume that it can probably generate certain discussions based on such an analysis.
It is possible that the limitation only distinguishes between the free and premium versions, not the limitations of the AI protocol which has been designed to comply with the protocol rules that are made.

Grok is an AI Build that is designed specifically for X and of course will be maximized to analyze posts on X and find out all kinds of things about X very easily, but the limitations given will of course only be differentiated for free and premium and general limitations like AI in general.

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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #81 on: February 10, 2025, 08:44:14 PM »
It is possible that some paid versions can search external sites.
If someone is active on Twitter, (X), there is a new AI tool "Grok" that will analyze posts on the account and give observations about writing style, interests, etc... I haven't tried it in that direction, but I assume that it can probably generate certain discussions based on such an analysis.
It is possible that the limitation only distinguishes between the free and premium versions, not the limitations of the AI protocol which has been designed to comply with the protocol rules that are made.

Grok is an AI Build that is designed specifically for X and of course will be maximized to analyze posts on X and find out all kinds of things about X very easily, but the limitations given will of course only be differentiated for free and premium and general limitations like AI in general.
Did you perhaps use an AI tool to rephrase what I wrote above?
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #81 on: February 10, 2025, 08:44:14 PM »


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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #82 on: February 10, 2025, 09:03:36 PM »
It is possible that some paid versions can search external sites.
If someone is active on Twitter, (X), there is a new AI tool "Grok" that will analyze posts on the account and give observations about writing style, interests, etc... I haven't tried it in that direction, but I assume that it can probably generate certain discussions based on such an analysis.

Exact. Possible paid versions may not have those limitations and do a full scan of a profile to adjust writing parameters, although I still doubt it can be 100% effective or accurate. I have seen what you say about Grok, and although it seems that it closely matches the user's interests, it must be taken into account that the information it offers may vary in each publication that the user makes on X/Twitter, so it may even be more complex to offer a similar style. Anyway, I guess it's a matter of time before something like this (paying and possibly free) can be done, just as entire websites can be cloned with a few clicks.
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #83 on: February 11, 2025, 07:59:29 PM »
Anything can happen to anyone without being prepared for it, though we never pray such evil calamity should struck, but we must make plan ahead in case of any uncertainties like that, once there can be proofs to what happened, then i don't think there is any more fact check in verifying on what happened to the account, once there can be someone who have taken over or if the account is going to remain inactive

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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #84 on: February 11, 2025, 08:57:18 PM »
Is there any special treatment from the Admin or Staff for members who have died?
For any member of the forum who dies, I don't think there will be any special treatment to be given to that person because this is a public forum where the identity of the forum members is not revealed. Every one of us is staying anonymous in the forum, not answering their real name or having their location revealed.

To think of that, there is no way to have special treatment given to someone you don't know their identity. How will the admin start with that? Cos the moment a member of this forum dies, that really ends with him or her with the forum. There's no way to reach out to them

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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #85 on: February 12, 2025, 07:04:49 AM »
I wonder about same things too, esp. That what if the user is a strong contender in a contest or a manager who deceases... It's terrible to think of but could happen. I Pray it doesn't.

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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #86 on: February 15, 2025, 11:23:22 PM »
- he is in the middle of a contest that looks like a candidate to be the winner and needs confirmation of attendance.
If in the middle of a contest where they are almost declared winner but just need to confirm their attendance, if attendance is missed, winning will be moved to the second runner up.

- he is doing escrow transactions with other members.
- he has debts to fellow altcoinstalks members.
Because we remain anonymous on the forum and our identities remain private, if you get involved in the transaction with someone who unfortunately loses their life during a transaction, I don't think there will be any way to recover or regain such funds, also considering that some individuals do not share access to their wallets and died unfortunately.
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #87 on: February 19, 2025, 09:35:52 PM »
For any member of the forum who dies, I don't think there will be any special treatment to be given to that person because this is a public forum where the identity of the forum members is not revealed. Every one of us is staying anonymous in the forum, not answering their real name or having their location revealed.

To think of that, there is no way to have special treatment given to someone you don't know their identity. How will the admin start with that? Cos the moment a member of this forum dies, that really ends with him or her with the forum. There's no way to reach out to them

I think @erus was referring to whether staff members who passed away received a badge in their memory or something similar, that's at least what I understand from his post. But that is something that must take years to achieve, where "groups" of users create bonds of friendship and have contact beyond the borders of the forum. This way you could know when a member died and be sure that it was. Although I'm not sure, there may be groups like this on local forums, where there is more concentrated activity of users from the same areas (some of them). I don't think it's necessary to know the real identities for something like this.
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #88 on: February 20, 2025, 04:30:13 PM »
I think @erus was referring to whether staff members who passed away received a badge in their memory or something similar, that's at least what I understand from his post. But that is something that must take years to achieve, where "groups" of users create bonds of friendship and have contact beyond the borders of the forum. This way you could know when a member died and be sure that it was. Although I'm not sure, there may be groups like this on local forums, where there is more concentrated activity of users from the same areas (some of them). I don't think it's necessary to know the real identities for something like this.
Well, I rarely care about this issue before though I am quite worried about my crypto assets on CEXs. I think that if they want, the admin can absolutely add some badge for inactive accounts for 3 years or more, for example "dormant" or "classic" ^^

For me, this is not really important, just open the profile and we can easily know that someone has not been online for many years and is no longer active on the forum. In case that person will receive a reward from some contest, the reward can be sent to their address as usual, or the admin will receive it and send a message so that the account holder can contact and receive it when returning to the forum.

I plan to hand over my account to my children so that they can continue to learn and contribute to our forum development after a few decades. I hope that by then AltcoinsTalks has really become a major force in the crypto community!
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #89 on: February 21, 2025, 09:31:56 AM »
I wonder about same things too, esp. That what if the user is a strong contender in a contest or a manager who deceases... It's terrible to think of but could happen. I Pray it doesn't.
Smme other member would get reward, but how would anyone know if thy actually deceased if nobody confirmed that information?
In most cases it is the same thing if someone simply stopped using forum account or if he died in any way...same thing could be said for Satoshi Nakamoto in bitcointalk forum.
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