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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #90 on: February 22, 2025, 11:48:15 AM »
Smme other member would get reward, but how would anyone know if thy actually deceased if nobody confirmed that information?
In most cases it is the same thing if someone simply stopped using forum account or if he died in any way...same thing could be said for Satoshi Nakamoto in bitcointalk forum.

In most cases it is difficult to confirm information like that, that's why I said that maybe in more closed user groups (local boards with more activity) it could be possible.

We must not forget where we are, Internet, and that here the closeness that technology offers is a very distant closeness, that's why I think it's better to let things happen naturally.
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #90 on: February 22, 2025, 11:48:15 AM »

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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #91 on: February 25, 2025, 10:43:46 PM »
Smme other member would get reward, but how would anyone know if thy actually deceased if nobody confirmed that information?
In most cases it is the same thing if someone simply stopped using forum account or if he died in any way...same thing could be said for Satoshi Nakamoto in bitcointalk forum.

In most cases it is difficult to confirm information like that, that's why I said that maybe in more closed user groups (local boards with more activity) it could be possible.

We must not forget where we are, Internet, and that here the closeness that technology offers is a very distant closeness, that's why I think it's better to let things happen naturally.
Everyone is constantly posting new posts from their accounts. And of course, everyone's post quality writing style, post description style is different, so when the owner of an account changes, checking the post of that account will clearly understand that the account is not being used by the first owner. Although it is very difficult to find because these things are difficult to find unless a user is tracked regularly.

I don't think there is any problem with the fact that an account can change owner if someone dies and a family member can use it.  But since everyone's honesty is not the same, if these things can be found out, it should be mentioned with a natural tag on that account that the account should not be used by the first owner, so if anyone does any new transaction with that account from that time, verify it again and then do it by his own risk
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #92 on: March 04, 2025, 09:17:37 PM »
Everyone is constantly posting new posts from their accounts. And of course, everyone's post quality writing style, post description style is different, so when the owner of an account changes, checking the post of that account will clearly understand that the account is not being used by the first owner. Although it is very difficult to find because these things are difficult to find unless a user is tracked regularly.

I don't think there is any problem with the fact that an account can change owner if someone dies and a family member can use it.  But since everyone's honesty is not the same, if these things can be found out, it should be mentioned with a natural tag on that account that the account should not be used by the first owner, so if anyone does any new transaction with that account from that time, verify it again and then do it by his own risk

I suppose it wouldn't be difficult to put a tag on an account that is being used by someone else, but I don't think that's the problem. The problem would be whether morally (according to each person's way of thinking) another person could use our account. Personally I think it shouldn't be like this, and that forum activity for that account should end the moment that person dies. But as I say, that is just my personal opinion, and having the correct information in these cases would be complicated and delicate due to the nature of that information.
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #93 on: March 04, 2025, 09:49:58 PM »
But as I say, that is just my personal opinion, and having the correct information in these cases would be complicated and delicate due to the nature of that information.
AI is getting smarter and smarter each new day, there's possibility to train AI on someone's writing style and there's chance that in future AI might get so good in future that it might copy someone's emotions as well. And, that can be a problem to confirm whether the account owner is using the account or it's just a bot, or someone using a bot to mimic the original account owner.
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #94 on: March 04, 2025, 10:06:27 PM »
AI is getting smarter and smarter each new day, there's possibility to train AI on someone's writing style and there's chance that in future AI might get so good in future that it might copy someone's emotions as well. And, that can be a problem to confirm whether the account owner is using the account or it's just a bot, or someone using a bot to mimic the original account owner.
Yeah you actually do have a point however what are the chances of someone carrying out this exact task of training an AI to actually mimic a particular person. The only thing I see that may be an issue is being able to properly identify if the account owner passes away or not and that is because, if there is no offline link such an information may be out of reach.

Besides it may even seem suspicious if an account goes dormant for a couple of years and then comes back online too.
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #95 on: March 05, 2025, 07:50:00 AM »
AI is getting smarter and smarter each new day, there's possibility to train AI on someone's writing style and there's chance that in future AI might get so good in future that it might copy someone's emotions as well. And, that can be a problem to confirm whether the account owner is using the account or it's just a bot, or someone using a bot to mimic the original account owner.
This makes me feel scared, because I don't know if your comment comes from an advanced AI that you have used a lot of data to train :)

What you pointed out is entirely possible, however I don't understand if someone has given up on this world, why would he continue to maintain an account on a crypto forum? AI could cause his reputation to be damaged if discovered. Letting the account continue to exist in silence might be a smarter choice for a member who values ​​self-respect.

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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #96 on: March 05, 2025, 07:28:15 PM »
But as I say, that is just my personal opinion, and having the correct information in these cases would be complicated and delicate due to the nature of that information.
AI is getting smarter and smarter each new day, there's possibility to train AI on someone's writing style and there's chance that in future AI might get so good in future that it might copy someone's emotions as well. And, that can be a problem to confirm whether the account owner is using the account or it's just a bot, or someone using a bot to mimic the original account owner.
To what essence then?
How special will the user be that will enable someone to build a model to mimic his posting style and remain in the forum. To me, that is alot of work to do and this should only happen if here is a kind of company with huge salary and alot of benefits.

But for a mare discussion forum, the effort is not worth it, especially for ordinary accounts, except for admin or the president.

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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #96 on: March 05, 2025, 07:28:15 PM »


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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #97 on: March 13, 2025, 08:31:46 PM »
To what essence then?
How special will the user be that will enable someone to build a model to mimic his posting style and remain in the forum. To me, that is alot of work to do and this should only happen if here is a kind of company with huge salary and alot of benefits.

But for a mare discussion forum, the effort is not worth it, especially for ordinary accounts, except for admin or the president.

We are at a point where the day may not be too far away when we can create an AI from another AI (I don't know if it is already possible to do that) to copy 100% of a person's way of speaking, although thinking about it coldly, I suppose that would only be possible if we are talking about neural networks, and not the AI ​​that we know, but it is also true that the AI ​​models known to society are not as advanced as other private models.

The admin is not human (:o), but I am, and one day I will no longer be here. Even though there are people who know about this account, they would not use it for anything.
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #98 on: March 13, 2025, 08:43:17 PM »
AI is getting smarter and smarter each new day, there's possibility to train AI on someone's writing style and there's chance that in future AI might get so good in future that it might copy someone's emotions as well. And, that can be a problem to confirm whether the account owner is using the account or it's just a bot, or someone using a bot to mimic the original account owner.

There are many improvements on AI and I can tell when an article is written by AI, I will know for sure that such article or journals is written AI. No matter how you improve something that's difficult and you want it to exist, you will have to be ready and accept whatever is given to you because I think that AI will always be AI no matter what.

I also think that the forum requires login details, if the person that dies didn't reveal his or her password with anyone, I'm not sure if they can access this forum but if trey have their details then it can be possible to invested on, that's what I can say about this topic.
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #99 on: March 13, 2025, 10:42:29 PM »
There are many improvements on AI and I can tell when an article is written by AI, I will know for sure that such article or journals is written AI. No matter how you improve something that's difficult and you want it to exist, you will have to be ready and accept whatever is given to you because I think that AI will always be AI no matter what.
Posting styles actually matter a lot and it's more like a unique feature tied to every single account. This is because the easiest way I have seen that accounts that were hacked or changed hands were noticed was mostly from a change in their posting styles and the kind of discussions they engage in.
Basically it's very possible to build an AI to mimic a person's posting style and the kind of discussions they make however the question too is who is ready to put that much effort into an account?
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #100 on: March 21, 2025, 06:30:42 PM »
There are many improvements on AI and I can tell when an article is written by AI, I will know for sure that such article or journals is written AI. No matter how you improve something that's difficult and you want it to exist, you will have to be ready and accept whatever is given to you because I think that AI will always be AI no matter what.
Posting styles actually matter a lot and it's more like a unique feature tied to every single account. This is because the easiest way I have seen that accounts that were hacked or changed hands were noticed was mostly from a change in their posting styles and the kind of discussions they engage in.
Basically it's very possible to build an AI to mimic a person's posting style and the kind of discussions they make however the question too is who is ready to put that much effort into an account?

Not worth the time and effort. If a scammer gives the same effort in building an account from the scratch rather than using AI to mimic a persons posting style, he would do better. Actually, are there any AI that can mimic a persons writing pattern? I am curious to know, I never imagined something as this before. And even if something as a mimic AI existed, it would be very expensive. Anyway, we are aware of the fact that scammers/spammer are lazy, and if tools like this are available in the market, they would certainly make sure to use that, regardless of its price for subscription.

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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #101 on: March 21, 2025, 07:42:47 PM »
But as I say, that is just my personal opinion, and having the correct information in these cases would be complicated and delicate due to the nature of that information.
AI is getting smarter and smarter each new day, there's possibility to train AI on someone's writing style and there's chance that in future AI might get so good in future that it might copy someone's emotions as well. And, that can be a problem to confirm whether the account owner is using the account or it's just a bot, or someone using a bot to mimic the original account owner.
Training language model is not something that is easily done and before you have to do it, you need to check whether the account is worth it. There are just a few accounts in the forum that are worth such a stress.  AI will keep developing, but as it keeps developing, humans will start learning how they operate and their effects will keep mitigating

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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #102 on: March 21, 2025, 08:03:55 PM »
I am curious to know, I never imagined something as this before. And even if something as a mimic AI existed, it would be very expensive. Anyway, we are aware of the fact that scammers/spammer are lazy, and if tools like this are available in the market, they would certainly make sure to use that, regardless of its price for subscription.
Well you know I think it's quite difficult or it will be very expensive to manage however it is not actually the case. You can train almost any AI reason from as low as chat GPT to understand how a particular person reacts to certain situations and as a result build up the AI to behave in a very similar manner.
The most important thing is to constantly bombard the AI with certain keywords especially when you require answers to certain questions. It takes time though but it's very achievable.
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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #103 on: March 21, 2025, 10:15:26 PM »
Is there any special treatment from the Admin or Staff for members who have died?
Is there anyone here at altcoinstalks who has seen and experienced the story of a member who has died?
No one plans or is aware of such unexpected events. The main thing is that no one might know if such user passes on except they have a close relation on the forum or someone they know. For the people whom he has some transactions with, they probably might loss the transactions as there will be no one to communicate to if such case might occur

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Re: What if the Account Owner Dies?
« Reply #104 on: March 22, 2025, 07:13:26 AM »
Is there any special treatment from the Admin or Staff for members who have died?
Is there anyone here at altcoinstalks who has seen and experienced the story of a member who has died?
No one plans or is aware of such unexpected events. The main thing is that no one might know if such user passes on except they have a close relation on the forum or someone they know. For the people whom he has some transactions with, they probably might loss the transactions as there will be no one to communicate to if such case might occur

In a forum where everyone is anonymous, it's really hard to verify whether a person really passed away or the cause of someone's disappearance. The special treatment would only be possible with certain groups of people. For example, who is a reputable and respected within this forum, someone who had countless trades countless times. And even with past transaction history, we wouldn't know someone's personal life. The only possibilities I see here is when a person voluntarily shares the the reasons. Actually we have seen things like that before in BTT, where many reputable user or his family shared the news with us, that they might not come back anymore due to terminal illness or already passed away.

 

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