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Re: Do you use a password manager?
« Reply #75 on: December 29, 2024, 04:38:29 PM »
The Password* Manager feature that I use in the iPhone default application is not for storing seed phrases but for storing usernames/emails and passwords for access to certain accounts so that they can be automatically filled in when I want to log in. To open the Password feature, I set it using Face ID. Of course, I use other applications for accounts that use additional 2FA, and so far, I have used Authy.
I believe this uses an Apple account just like MacOS right? I also use them on my Macbook but I don't trust them enough to move all of my passwords over, not to mention I use other devices other than iOS/MacOS too. I also use Authy but I'm in the process of moving my OTP to FreeOTP and Aegis Authenticator. It takes a bit of time since they don't offer an export or backup feature at all.
For 2nd factor authentication, I abandoned Google Auth and started using Strongbox to store my passwords and 2FA codes. It's easy to set up and has the option to export the code from backups via a link.

Meanwhile, with Google Auth, you're stuck with them only. You can only sync the same codes saved on another device with your account.

If you don't want to change the 2FA code for your accounts, but want to export it to another app, like iOS Passwords, you have to select the account you want one by one or all at once. Auth shares the link via QR code and no text option. You have to find a way to get the code via QR code with another device like a laptop or cell phone to get the code in text... it's a lot of bureaucracy, the worst authenticator I've ever used!
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Re: Do you use a password manager?
« Reply #75 on: December 29, 2024, 04:38:29 PM »

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Re: Do you use a password manager?
« Reply #76 on: December 29, 2024, 07:20:59 PM »
How many times did you face security issues due to your password being compromised? I dont have a habit of creating new email/new password every single time I need to register somewhere. I am feeling ok with having >10 email and it aint hard to make new and remember password for me.

This makes absolutely no sense.

It is much easier to create a random new password than to create a new email  lol


The combination of two or more emails with different passwords clearly provides opportunities that are more difficult to break into than just using one email and the same password.

The method above is a preventive step before all accounts are hacked due to using the same email and password.

I use about 3-4 emails.

One for work
One for personal
One for bitmover (pseudo anonymous)
One for finance related.

And i also use a password manager. Online life became so complicated...
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Re: Do you use a password manager?
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Re: Do you use a password manager?
« Reply #77 on: January 10, 2025, 07:08:52 PM »
Such as proton pass, my favorite passowrd manager.
https://proton.me/pass
What makes this stand out for you? How does it differ from KeePass? I was offered this app when I installed and paid for their VPN plan. I was not interested since I use KeePass and so far have no issues other than routinely making backups, but that's a trade-off I'm willing to accept. It seems like Proton has expanded quickly, from an e-mail business to many things now.

I have tried both, Keepass and Proton pass, I also prefer Keepass over proton pass. I am not fan of online password managers after lastpass breaches, so prefer offline password managers, little inconvenience of making backups is doable to me.
I never use any kind of third party apps for keeping my online password. I always try to save my password in notepad even in my diary. I think any kind of third party apps is risky. Because I have to maintain different kinds of important apps including my bank account. I believe password is very important for a man so It's security is very important.
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Re: Do you use a password manager?
« Reply #78 on: January 10, 2025, 07:13:49 PM »
I never use any kind of third party apps for keeping my online password. I always try to save my password in notepad even in my diary. I think any kind of third party apps is risky. Because I have to maintain different kinds of important apps including my bank account. I believe password is very important for a man so It's security is very important.

That's also a good idea but it carries a risk that you'll lose the passwords if your diary gets destroyed. There is one infamous picture of some burnt diary with part of a private key WIF for example. Maybe there's a sudden fire like in Los Angeles right now and you don't have time to look for your diary and you literally have to run out.

Keep it in a fireproof safe at least.
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Re: Do you use a password manager?
« Reply #79 on: January 10, 2025, 07:28:22 PM »
Password manager is kind of important these days since we use different passwords and email for almost everything we do online. But specially for crypto I try to keep the password similar with slight changes and since I don't use too many crypto platforms I keep it my memory too, so even if my password manager corrupted or whatever happens I have to access the funds right?
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Re: Do you use a password manager?
« Reply #80 on: January 11, 2025, 05:25:04 AM »
Such as proton pass, my favorite passowrd manager.
https://proton.me/pass
What makes this stand out for you? How does it differ from KeePass? I was offered this app when I installed and paid for their VPN plan. I was not interested since I use KeePass and so far have no issues other than routinely making backups, but that's a trade-off I'm willing to accept. It seems like Proton has expanded quickly, from an e-mail business to many things now.

I have tried both, Keepass and Proton pass, I also prefer Keepass over proton pass. I am not fan of online password managers after lastpass breaches, so prefer offline password managers, little inconvenience of making backups is doable to me.
I never use any kind of third party apps for keeping my online password. I always try to save my password in notepad even in my diary. I think any kind of third party apps is risky. Because I have to maintain different kinds of important apps including my bank account. I believe password is very important for a man so It's security is very important.

I know people who do same, I asked what if your laptop fails they said they'll repair it and get the data back. Diary is even fragile way to save important info.

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Re: Do you use a password manager?
« Reply #81 on: January 11, 2025, 02:12:53 PM »

I know people who do same, I asked what if your laptop fails they said they'll repair it and get the data back. Diary is even fragile way to save important info.

But the laptop may be stolen, damaged beyond repair, maybe the HD may just just, etc... so many problems that can happen to a single physical device, it is not wise to rely important stuff like this in a single point of failure.

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Re: Do you use a password manager?
« Reply #81 on: January 11, 2025, 02:12:53 PM »


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Re: Do you use a password manager?
« Reply #82 on: January 11, 2025, 04:57:13 PM »
I know people who do same, I asked what if your laptop fails they said they'll repair it and get the data back. Diary is even fragile way to save important info.

You know advantage diary has over password manager program that is installed on the pc or laptop? If someone break into your place, you leave both items somewhere, someone on purpose will try to find your private data, that person will steal pc or laptop 99,99%. In current digital era, everyone pay more attention to gadgets, than to paper carrier. Minority will try to look through your diary in search for passwords, majority will try to find valuable info on the device.
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Re: Do you use a password manager?
« Reply #83 on: January 11, 2025, 05:21:02 PM »
I know people who do same, I asked what if your laptop fails they said they'll repair it and get the data back. Diary is even fragile way to save important info.

You know advantage diary has over password manager program that is installed on the pc or laptop? If someone break into your place, you leave both items somewhere, someone on purpose will try to find your private data, that person will steal pc or laptop 99,99%. In current digital era, everyone pay more attention to gadgets, than to paper carrier. Minority will try to look through your diary in search for passwords, majority will try to find valuable info on the device.

You know what you are actually right. MrBeast's house was robbed, robbers took laptop but not his note having his Bitcoin wallet's private key, which as Mrbeast mentions had 2M in it.

Check story here.

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Re: Do you use a password manager?
« Reply #84 on: January 15, 2025, 10:50:05 AM »
I know people who do same, I asked what if your laptop fails they said they'll repair it and get the data back. Diary is even fragile way to save important info.

You know advantage diary has over password manager program that is installed on the pc or laptop? If someone break into your place, you leave both items somewhere, someone on purpose will try to find your private data, that person will steal pc or laptop 99,99%. In current digital era, everyone pay more attention to gadgets, than to paper carrier. Minority will try to look through your diary in search for passwords, majority will try to find valuable info on the device.

You're right. But on other hands, good password manager would use strong encryption cryptography that can't be brute-forced. In addition, you could use full disk encryption (such as BitLocker for Windows or LUKS for Linux).
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Re: Do you use a password manager?
« Reply #85 on: January 15, 2025, 12:17:06 PM »
I know people who do same, I asked what if your laptop fails they said they'll repair it and get the data back. Diary is even fragile way to save important info.

You know advantage diary has over password manager program that is installed on the pc or laptop? If someone break into your place, you leave both items somewhere, someone on purpose will try to find your private data, that person will steal pc or laptop 99,99%. In current digital era, everyone pay more attention to gadgets, than to paper carrier. Minority will try to look through your diary in search for passwords, majority will try to find valuable info on the device.

You're right. But on other hands, good password manager would use strong encryption cryptography that can't be brute-forced. In addition, you could use full disk encryption (such as BitLocker for Windows or LUKS for Linux).

When nobody knows what is on the laptop or that I have crypto, nobody would even try to brute-force anything or try to get that info from me. But I will stick to my plan of using paper to keep passwords. Having a password manager would hint theft to try to search my device up and down. Even if he wont get access to wallets, he could find other valuable information. Nobody knows how it would be used later.

I accept that I am not most experienced PC and software user. That is why I prefer old paper method. But I have google chrome that stores passwords and other stuff that I fill in forms, and sometimes I messed up with not remembering password and not being able to find it there. I can suppose, that one day, I will rely to much on the password manager, but the password wont be there, because I havent clicked or ticked something. With paper and passwords, it looks more organized and disciplined for me.
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Re: Do you use a password manager?
« Reply #86 on: January 15, 2025, 12:34:21 PM »
I accept that I am not most experienced PC and software user. That is why I prefer old paper method. But I have google chrome that stores passwords and other stuff that I fill in forms, and sometimes I messed up with not remembering password and not being able to find it there. I can suppose, that one day, I will rely to much on the password manager, but the password wont be there, because I havent clicked or ticked something. With paper and passwords, it looks more organized and disciplined for me.

I can understand your pov, I have had moments where I thought I had made an entry into password manager, but it was not saved, and it was not found there when I needed it, that's why for important things I double check (save, check entries again to make sure it's there).

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Re: Do you use a password manager?
« Reply #87 on: January 15, 2025, 03:19:30 PM »
I accept that I am not most experienced PC and software user. That is why I prefer old paper method. But I have google chrome that stores passwords and other stuff that I fill in forms, and sometimes I messed up with not remembering password and not being able to find it there. I can suppose, that one day, I will rely to much on the password manager, but the password wont be there, because I havent clicked or ticked something. With paper and passwords, it looks more organized and disciplined for me.

I can understand your pov, I have had moments where I thought I had made an entry into password manager, but it was not saved, and it was not found there when I needed it, that's why for important things I double check (save, check entries again to make sure it's there).

But if write password on a sheet of paper, there is no need to double check if I have really written it down. Also when you write something down, it helps to remember that thing better (that was told at school often, when students reply "I will remember it", teachers always reply "write it down to remember it better"). Anyway both password manager and paper has its cons and pros, but I see that there are less chances something bad might happen to my sheet with passwords, than with a device where they are stored.

The fact that I can get hacked and someone could watch and access passwords parallel me being busy at PC, without me not even knowing about it crosses all advantages of password manager. If I keep my work place organized, not a single person would dig into my papers in search of a passwords. During years of working in the office, lots of jobs and colleagues have been changed, and not a single one has touched or searched for something on my table. And at home the chances of that to happen are close to nothing.
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Re: Do you use a password manager?
« Reply #88 on: January 15, 2025, 03:57:30 PM »
The fact that I can get hacked and someone could watch and access passwords parallel me being busy at PC, without me not even knowing about it crosses all advantages of password manager.

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If I keep my work place organized, not a single person would dig into my papers in search of a passwords. During years of working in the office, lots of jobs and colleagues have been changed, and not a single one has touched or searched for something on my table. And at home the chances of that to happen are close to nothing.

I honestly don't have that much confidence in paper backups (I prefer offline password managers over it), but since it works for you, good for you.


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Re: Do you use a password manager?
« Reply #89 on: January 16, 2025, 07:10:43 AM »
The fact that I can get hacked and someone could watch and access passwords parallel me being busy at PC, without me not even knowing about it crosses all advantages of password manager.
While the risk is there, you can also prevent that from happening IMO. It's not like your PC will suddenly get malware on it if you never click malicious links, download cracked software, etc. There are horror stories when people rely on written backups too. But well, if you're not confident and stick with paper or written backups hopefully nothing bad happens to you, like the latest wildfire in LA. CMIIW.

During years of working in the office, lots of jobs and colleagues have been changed, and not a single one has touched or searched for something on my table. And at home the chances of that to happen are close to nothing.
That's good to hear. I heard many horror stories where people work in a terrible office environment. Although if we're being paranoid it's still possible that someone check your workplace when you're not there in one way or the other.

 

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