Francis Ngannou Vs Renan Ferreira 19 October MMA, PFL

[pawel7777]

I've seen Ngannou mentioned in the boxing boxing thread and googled for his next fight to discover it's only 10 days away from now. I almost forgot that Francis Ngannou exists, I've seen zero info on that fight in my feeds. Is it just me or is it massively under-hyped?

Anyhow, Francis is a big favourite, with x1.34 odds, while Ferreira is x3.25. I don't know much about Ferreira, but have seen some highlights of his fights, and think Ngannou could struggle. Not because Ferreira being that good, but because of Francis not having any MMA fight for almost 3 years now, and because of Ferreira's slight size advantage - he's taller and likely will be heavier.

How do you see that fight playing out?

Here's a short promo-video:

[Zed0X]

Yeah, it's been a while since I last saw any news from Francis. With how the fight goes, I don't think this will go past round 2 because it seems the other fighter is also a KO artist. Ferreira is probably the more technical fighter but Ngannou's style when swinging and looking for a KO is a bit odd. He might catch Renan off-guard with that unpredictability.

[target]

PFL didn't learn how to market fight like how UFC would. Ngannou is earning more in boxing than in his MMA fghts. Knocked out in his bout with AJ and his kid died, it seem Ngannou has closed his book to the public for some time too.

His PFL fight I think isn't his priority anymore but because his PFL contract allow him to fight in boxing, he still has no option but to abide.

[pawel7777]

(...) Knocked out in his bout with AJ and his kid died, it seem Ngannou has closed his book to the public for some time too.

I didn't even know. That's brutal. I read his so was only 15 months old.

I don't think this will go past round 2 because it seems the other fighter is also a KO artist.

I can't imagine it will go past 2 rounds unless one of them decides to stall by attempting takedowns or pushing the other one against the cage. I think it's all down to how well will Francis be prepared. If he shows up at his 100%, he should have no problem KOing Ferreira.

[Rruchi man]

How do you see that fight playing out?

I expected Francis to win his last fight against Joshua; he ended up losing in a very disappointing manner after all the hype going down too easily. I will not expect much from him either in this fight since there is still financial gain in it if he loses.

I have never heard of the other fighter, but I will watch the fight for the sake of entertainment and keep an open mind about the two fighters without placing bets on either of them.

[Jating]

Yeah, we totally forget about Francis about that devastating knockout he suffered from AJ. And after that, he is back on MMA so it might be good for him to settle in this sports and not to do cross over anymore, although he made a lot of money already. With that, since majority of us here are not familiar with Renan and basing on the odds itself, I think Francis has a good chance to win and be big in the win column and also getting back his confidence in combat sports. But I'm not going to bet on this one, I'll just pass and just watch the highlights.

[bitbit97]

See how PFL is loosing battle to UFC. They have two huge guys to fight soon. Both are big stars and would attract great audience, but we rarely and barely see any fight promotion.  As if PFL are using their resources (fighters) ineffectively.

[pawel7777]

I expected Francis to win his last fight against Joshua; he ended up losing in a very disappointing manner after all the hype going down too easily. I will not expect much from him either in this fight since there is still financial gain in it if he loses.

He surely still will get a nice payout even if he loses, but losing in MMA in a match in which he's a big favourite would drive his "stocks" down and reduce earning potential for any following fights, so he should have a lot of motivation to win.

I can't really blame him for losing to AJ. He did exceptionally well against Fury, but expecting him to beat up every top boxer is just too much. It was a one-time surprise.

[robelneo]

This is a very challenging fight for Ngannou He is fighting a guy who is making waves in the MMA heavyweight division and he is the defending champion in PFL. With his last loss via knockout against AJ he needs to show that he is still good by winning against Renan.
The match is pretty even to me, but I'm rooting for Ngannou to win the fight as he is the more experienced of the two having big names in the MMA world.

[target]

This is a very challenging fight for Ngannou He is fighting a guy who is making waves in the MMA heavyweight division and he is the defending champion in PFL. With his last loss via knockout against AJ he needs to show that he is still good by winning against Renan.
The match is pretty even to me, but I'm rooting for Ngannou to win the fight as he is the more experienced of the two having big names in the MMA world.

Hopefully he can utilize the boxing and footwork he learned from Mike. Winning this fight could give Francis another shot to boxing.  It is still not late to make few fights in boxing and probably get to climb the competition again.

Ngannou is one of the fighter who figured out to fight back Dana and made it to what he wants to happen.

[Zed0X]

See how PFL is loosing battle to UFC. They have two huge guys to fight soon. Both are big stars and would attract great audience, but we rarely and barely see any fight promotion.  As if PFL are using their resources (fighters) ineffectively.

Funny thing is I read that the top guy in the PFL management came out saying Dana will try to do something to steal the limelight from Ngannou's upcoming fight. Well, he might have done something behind the scenes already but it still doesn't look good on the PFL guy to drag another promotion instead of focusing on their main event.

[target]

See how PFL is loosing battle to UFC. They have two huge guys to fight soon. Both are big stars and would attract great audience, but we rarely and barely see any fight promotion.  As if PFL are using their resources (fighters) ineffectively.

Funny thing is I read that the top guy in the PFL management came out saying Dana will try to do something to steal the limelight from Ngannou's upcoming fight. Well, he might have done something behind the scenes already but it still doesn't look good on the PFL guy to drag another promotion instead of focusing on their main event.

Dana becomes unhinge every time the discussion is about Ngannou, when a reported asks about Danas opinion about Ngannou, it always sounds very bitter.

Ngannou left UFC with a heavyweight champ belt, thats got to be something to bragg for and some UFC fighters can't do. And then Dana looked down on Ngannou because he thought Ngannou will fail to find an  MMA contract somewhere that allows him to cross fight. But he made it.

This is why Ngannou becomes a perfect ambassador for PFL maybe with the purpose to annoy Dana.

[Rruchi man]

The match is pretty even to me.

This particular reason makes this fight very unattractive for me to try to gamble on because I consider both fighters to be almost the same and that the fight can go in anybody's favor. The two fighters are giants and have a good record to their name, ignoring Francis loss from the last fight. This is one of the fights for entertainment for me, although if I am at gunpoint to pick one of the two fighters, I will pick the more familiar name Francis to win the fight.

[robelneo]

See how PFL is loosing battle to UFC. They have two huge guys to fight soon. Both are big stars and would attract great audience, but we rarely and barely see any fight promotion.  As if PFL are using their resources (fighters) ineffectively.

Yeah totally agree they lack the promotion I remember Jake Paul raising the hands of both fighters that was over a month ago, and we have the weight in right now and there's nothing coming to my feeds where I am actiovely subscribes to sports pages they need to do collaboration with sports pages

By the way this is the livestream of their weigh in

looking forward to watch this fight live.
 

[pawel7777]

It was not a friendly face-off, Ferreira was more fired-up but both looked confident and well-prepared. Francis usually has a size advantage, but not this time. The height and reach advantage is on Ferreira's side, but in terms of weight Renan is only 4.7 pounds heavier, which is nothing in the heavyweight category.

Bookies are giving Renan a bit more chances than before, but he's still the underdog.
Everyone expects the fight to end by KO and betting on it going to distance you could get a payout of x8.0, and I can envision a scenario of that happening, i.e. if Ngannou is dominant in his striking, it could force Ferreira to take it to the ground, but it won't be easy to keep him there or submit him.