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Tesla Optimus Robots
« on: October 11, 2024, 11:13:15 PM »

What are your thoughts on Tesla robots (or other similar) and what would be the impact on society? Is it going to be just an expensive toy? A helpful assistant making life easier? Are those a threat to certain types of human jobs?
Are you looking forward to seeing those being widely used?

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An older video on what those robots should be capable of:


Some press coverage:
https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/10/24267225/tesla-robotaxi-optimus-we-robot
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/weird-news/elon-musks-new-tesla-robot-33873350
https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-tesla-optimus-humanoid-robots-robotaxi-day-2024-10

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Tesla Optimus Robots
« on: October 11, 2024, 11:13:15 PM »

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Re: Tesla Optimus Robots
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2024, 11:26:03 AM »
For me it will be missing the human part - the warm part. I believe that nowadays we are becoming more independent as an individual, not relying on any community resulting in more loneliness and the robots will only increase that factor. I believe that robots are a must yes for some jobs, however, they should not be intended to replace people.

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Re: Tesla Optimus Robots
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2024, 12:13:47 PM »
On hearing about this new technology created by Tesla, lol it made me remember some robo movies I've watched where robots all turned red and decided to take the over humanity. Lol yea we used to see more of them in movies performing actions and acting like a threat, I just hope that's not where we are heading to. Well, we can't actually tell for now if these robots will be a threat to man, our jobs and life's until we've seen them as time goes on.

 I just hope man will not become too lazy and let them actually take over every task. The features that let them learn on their own is cool though but kinda scary to me. As if a robot can learn to cook and clean just by watching a video on YouTube, what gen stops it from learning to hold a gun and using it from watching same video.

Yes the world is advancing we are happy with these onetime fantasy coming to life and the good things they can do for us. But we should also look on the bad side, if they will serve as a threat to humanity.


 

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Re: Tesla Optimus Robots
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2024, 01:13:54 PM »
In terms of automation, I think they're mostly useless for big enterprises that would use dedicated machines/software made for a specific purpose and therefore much more efficient than humanoid robots, but with such robots (provided their speed could be improved and they can indeed properly learn new things) even a small, family businesses could automate their processes and replace some (if not most) of human labour. The annual cost of a human worker earning minimum wage will be far higher than the robot, whose expected life will probably be at least 10 years. It might not be this generation of robots, but we know this will be possible eventually.

For me it will be missing the human part - the warm part. I believe that nowadays we are becoming more independent as an individual, not relying on any community resulting in more loneliness and the robots will only increase that factor. I believe that robots are a must yes for some jobs, however, they should not be intended to replace people.

That's a tricky one, because, on one hand, they will almost definitely increase social isolation (i.e. contact with other people), but they could provide comfort to lonely people who will now have someone to conversate with etc.
Moreover, they've done some research that shows that AI can appear more empathetic to the people it interacts with, than other people. Of course, it's just a piece of code that doesn't truly care about you, but it can create the feeling that it does.

I just hope man will not become too lazy and let them actually take over every task. (...)

That's kind of what they're designed for, but yeah, I think many people will just get fed up with over-automation and will start moving towards using their own hands instead.

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Re: Tesla Optimus Robots
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2024, 02:03:13 PM »
Even if it's not from Tesla there's already lot of companies are working on bringing humanoid robots probably before 2035 for the public usage and that would definitely replace labour jobs particularly at homes like maid, cleaning services, chef so yeah that this is real for sure whether we like it or not.

People will adopt to the changes as well cause that's what we do actually in the evolution cycle and this is gonna be another step of machine involving in the human cycle.
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Re: Tesla Optimus Robots
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2024, 05:42:00 PM »
Even if it's not from Tesla there's already lot of companies are working on bringing humanoid robots probably before 2035 for the public usage and that would definitely replace labour jobs particularly at homes like maid, cleaning services, chef so yeah that this is real for sure whether we like it or not.
At this point, it's almost guaranteed that whatever the final version of the Tesla's on is going to be, the Chinese will create a better (at least on paper) and cheaper version eventually.

People will adopt to the changes as well cause that's what we do actually in the evolution cycle and this is gonna be another step of machine involving in the human cycle.
Yeah, but the world after that adaptation could not necessarily be the world that we want to see. Not every change is good.

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Re: Tesla Optimus Robots
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2024, 08:42:32 PM »

8 years ago i think they already see whats coming i thought Chappie will just something we are dreaming as a kid.



but if it comes from Tesla, i'm not sure how things will go although i wanted someone who can help me in the house i would have this think it over if my kid will have one. this is very expensive as well.  i'd probably wait for the Chinese version.

maybe when i get old like 70, i need one who would wipe my ass.  ;D

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Re: Tesla Optimus Robots
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2024, 10:24:08 PM »

8 years ago i think they already see whats coming i thought Chappie will just something we are dreaming as a kid.



but if it comes from Tesla, i'm not sure how things will go although i wanted someone who can help me in the house i would have this think it over if my kid will have one. this is very expensive as well.  i'd probably wait for the Chinese version.

maybe when i get old like 70, i need one who would wipe my ass.  ;D
Not unless these companies are not weaponizing these robots because I can see what movies could bring if they really are in the race of that purpose. Since I see Chinese already doing that with their robot dog. But if this is for the good of humans where it was made for our convenience and company then there is no problem about that.

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Re: Tesla Optimus Robots
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2024, 10:37:42 PM »

8 years ago i think they already see whats coming i thought Chappie will just something we are dreaming as a kid.



but if it comes from Tesla, i'm not sure how things will go although i wanted someone who can help me in the house i would have this think it over if my kid will have one. this is very expensive as well.  i'd probably wait for the Chinese version.

maybe when i get old like 70, i need one who would wipe my ass.  ;D
Not unless these companies are not weaponizing these robots because I can see what movies could bring if they really are in the race of that purpose. Since I see Chinese already doing that with their robot dog. But if this is for the good of humans where it was made for our convenience and company then there is no problem about that.

it didn't start in China afaik. there are lots of MIT videos with their robots carrying military stuff and it was back in 2006. these are the kind of stuff to be developed and i think they are just waiting for  which army is going to utilize it the first and then it will be a fullblown bot wars.  ;D but there must have been a treaty made regarding the use of robots in warfare so i'm not sure about info.

Until no one yet has info and tweaks about the configuration and the firmware of the robot, it will be hard to trust this. this robots listens and communicate to the skynet.  ;D it maybe washing the dishes and mopping the floor but its taking your data like Xi JinPings Hwawei phones  ;D


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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2024, 11:49:26 PM »
Those robots are somewhat awesome but they come with pretty high price tag and that's alone enough for me to not buy it. However, if in future those robots become cheaper and also more optimized plus efficient then surely I'll think about purchasing one only for household tasks like cooking, washing the cookware and plates, etc. I guess it could be a good cook at least for me but only if it's value drops to $4000 to $5000, not $20k.
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Re: Tesla Optimus Robots
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2024, 10:16:42 PM »
What are your thoughts on Tesla robots (or other similar) and what would be the impact on society? Is it going to be just an expensive toy? A helpful assistant making life easier? Are those a threat to certain types of human jobs?
Are you looking forward to seeing those being widely used?
Musk saying this robots are going to cheaper than buying a car soon  :P
Do you remember all those sci-fi movies with robots as villains and robots replacing humans as workers?
It is all going this direction and if people don't start complaining now it is going to be to late in near future.
Pre-programming is done with movies and some people are openly saying they need drastic population reduction... must be just a coincidence.
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Re: Tesla Optimus Robots
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2024, 08:45:22 AM »

What are your thoughts on Tesla robots (or other similar) and what would be the impact on society? Is it going to be just an expensive toy? A helpful assistant making life easier? Are those a threat to certain types of human jobs?
Are you looking forward to seeing those being widely used?
you said it so yourself it is akin to expensive toys which only a small percentage of people can afford so i do not think it will be soon adopted everywhere so i do not think it will be a threat to humans’ jobs just yet not everyone will be able to afford this so it is very unlikely that you’ll see this everywhere and cause actual impact on to the society

this however serves a large step towards innovation and development and can serve as a learning curve for future robots or something similar

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Re: Tesla Optimus Robots
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2024, 03:17:13 PM »

What are your thoughts on Tesla robots (or other similar) and what would be the impact on society? Is it going to be just an expensive toy? A helpful assistant making life easier? Are those a threat to certain types of human jobs?
Are you looking forward to seeing those being widely used?
you said it so yourself it is akin to expensive toys which only a small percentage of people can afford so i do not think it will be soon adopted everywhere so i do not think it will be a threat to humans’ jobs just yet not everyone will be able to afford this so it is very unlikely that you’ll see this everywhere and cause actual impact on to the society

this however serves a large step towards innovation and development and can serve as a learning curve for future robots or something similar
I agree that this is a huge step towards innovation It is like sci-fi movies like that movie Will Smith titled "I Am Robot" For now it will not be adopted because it is still developing and the cost is high but for some time there will be a possibility that robots will now be used such as for home making, etc like basic stuff. there are indeed threats to human jobs especially as it said that it can now do repetitive task or dangerous once but it will never replace a human being.

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Re: Tesla Optimus Robots
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2024, 08:37:22 PM »

What are your thoughts on Tesla robots (or other similar) and what would be the impact on society? Is it going to be just an expensive toy? A helpful assistant making life easier? Are those a threat to certain types of human jobs?
Are you looking forward to seeing those being widely used?
you said it so yourself it is akin to expensive toys which only a small percentage of people can afford so i do not think it will be soon adopted everywhere so i do not think it will be a threat to humans’ jobs just yet not everyone will be able to afford this so it is very unlikely that you’ll see this everywhere and cause actual impact on to the society

this however serves a large step towards innovation and development and can serve as a learning curve for future robots or something similar
I agree that this is a huge step towards innovation It is like sci-fi movies like that movie Will Smith titled "I Am Robot" For now it will not be adopted because it is still developing and the cost is high but for some time there will be a possibility that robots will now be used such as for home making, etc like basic stuff. there are indeed threats to human jobs especially as it said that it can now do repetitive task or dangerous once but it will never replace a human being.

for now its not that needed by someone in their life. this is what people felt as well before the smart phones but now it seem like people can't live a single day without browsing using their phones.

this robot is yet not needed but after a year or two of it at home, the kids will rely on it to light up the whole house and mow the lawn.
but if Tesla robots cater those single men and this robot is shaped to a beautiful woman and can serve on bed, tell you those men will leave their wives and prefer thr robot  ;D


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Re: Tesla Optimus Robots
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2024, 10:42:37 PM »
I agree that this is a huge step towards innovation It is like sci-fi movies like that movie Will Smith titled "I Am Robot" For now it will not be adopted because it is still developing and the cost is high but for some time there will be a possibility that robots will now be used such as for home making, etc like basic stuff. there are indeed threats to human jobs especially as it said that it can now do repetitive task or dangerous once but it will never replace a human being.

I might never replace a human being but, eventually, it will be capable of replacing pretty much any human work. Not necessarily humanoid robots, but automation and AI in general. It's just a question of when not if.

 

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