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Re: Pump the oil, baby, pump it!
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2024, 09:16:27 AM »
you are really into deep to believing the lies dude. even after your country devastated.

Russia helped the west win against Germans, and yet they didn't let Russia joined? think about it. and then your government believes Ukr will be among the NATO?  all logic should have been applied to making this decisions. there could have been peace if they just did it. after all NATO is for security alliance as they claim.

but are all these for oil again or for lithium?

“Russia helped the west win against Germans” - after these words, you should have announced ‘This post was generated by a non-artificial and non-intellectual’ :)
Where did you get such nonsense? :)))))
September 1, 1939 - Germany invades Poland. This is the beginning of the second world war. On September 17, 1939, to help its ally, the USSR invades Poland, Poland could not withstand the blow from both sides. After that, the communist USSR and Nazi Germany hold a joint “victory parade” in Brest. And until June 22, 1941, the USSR together with Germany - destroy Europe. Until this date, the USSR trains pilots and tankers for the Wehrmacht. And then... to use the words of Russian propaganda, Germany launched a special military operation in the USSR to protect the German-speaking population and force the USSR to peace! :)
And when the USSR tucked its tail and surrendered its territory up to Moscow within a year, the Kremlin started demanding their help in fighting against their “comrade in arms” of yesterday. After that it was the USA that rendered huge material and technical help to the USSR in the form of Lendliz - from buttons to airplanes. Thanks to that the USSR managed to save its ugly skin from defeat by its former comrade.
By the way, if we talk about oil - it was on western aviation kerosene that more than half of Soviet fighters and bombers flew, because the country which had “40% of the world's natural reserves” could not provide itself with simple fuel....
Learn history and don't embarrass yourself in front of everyone :)

And about NATO - Ukraine's desire to join NATO is a consequence of Russia's terrorist attack in 2014. The first legislative act, about plans to join NATO, was signed only in 2018, to fill your information gap. So attributing Russia's attack on Ukraine in 2014 as a “defense against Ukraine joining NATO” looks, to put it mildly stupid, very stupid...

By the way, let's get back to the topic - tell us your vision of how things will be in the country “gas station” after Trump fulfills his promise to reduce world oil prices to the level of 50 dollars per barrel of “Brent” mark

PS Or can you refute at least one fact I have cited ? :)

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Re: Pump the oil, baby, pump it!
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Re: Pump the oil, baby, pump it!
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2024, 08:38:18 PM »

its a public data everybody knows it. but yea. its your discussion anyway.
when your mind is loaded with what the US government is telling you, you are in a good place to believe it. just continue what you have learned. you right where you belong.


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Re: Pump the oil, baby, pump it!
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2024, 10:13:34 PM »
I lived in New York City for about 30 years. I am a native New Yorker in fact I was born in the same borough as Trump.

I have a close Russian friend since 2001 and when Trump  won in 2016 I was hanging with him and we were drinking some bourbon. I turned to my friend and said what doesn't USA Russia and China join forces and simply say I respectfully disagree to everyone else.

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Re: Pump the oil, baby, pump it!
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2024, 11:44:56 PM »

its a public data everybody knows it. but yea. its your discussion anyway.
when your mind is loaded with what the US government is telling you, you are in a good place to believe it. just continue what you have learned. you right where you belong.


Expectedly for a victim of propaganda - not the slightest attempt to refute even one sentence or fact :)
The absence of their own opinion, supported by arguments, distinguishes propaganda victims from people who can think, really assess the situation on the basis of knowledge, facts and historical events. I am not surprised by your answer, but rather it was expected - empty sounds and not the slightest attempt to refute my arguments, realizing that it will look even more ridiculous and stupid than the retelling of propaganda :)

But let's finish with the propaganda and get back to the topic: What steps can D.Trump take to realize his promises ?
“The first is to increase production in the United States and the possibility of selling to the European Union. The second thing that was impossible under the previous administration is normalizing good relations with Saudi Arabia. Namely, supporting Saudi Arabia in its desire to increase production starting this December. And the third thing, which was also on the table for the previous administration, but the ideology of the Democratic Party did not allow it, concerns a forceful change of power in Venezuela. Venezuela is the largest country in the world in terms of proven oil reserves. If Maduro is replaced by a more pro-American person, Venezuela will get the technology to produce oil, and there will be even more of it on the world market. Accordingly, its price will not be $40, as Trump said, but even lower."”

And this is what the oil price chart looks like, assuming that OPEC has not increased production and Trump has not yet become president, but only announced his plans :



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Re: Pump the oil, baby, pump it!
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2024, 06:36:50 PM »

its a public data everybody knows it. but yea. its your discussion anyway.
when your mind is loaded with what the US government is telling you, you are in a good place to believe it. just continue what you have learned. you right where you belong.


Expectedly for a victim of propaganda - not the slightest attempt to refute even one sentence or fact :)
The absence of their own opinion, supported by arguments, distinguishes propaganda victims from people who can think, really assess the situation on the basis of knowledge, facts and historical events. I am not surprised by your answer, but rather it was expected - empty sounds and not the slightest attempt to refute my arguments, realizing that it will look even more ridiculous and stupid than the retelling of propaganda :)

But let's finish with the propaganda and get back to the topic: What steps can D.Trump take to realize his promises ?
“The first is to increase production in the United States and the possibility of selling to the European Union. The second thing that was impossible under the previous administration is normalizing good relations with Saudi Arabia. Namely, supporting Saudi Arabia in its desire to increase production starting this December. And the third thing, which was also on the table for the previous administration, but the ideology of the Democratic Party did not allow it, concerns a forceful change of power in Venezuela. Venezuela is the largest country in the world in terms of proven oil reserves. If Maduro is replaced by a more pro-American person, Venezuela will get the technology to produce oil, and there will be even more of it on the world market. Accordingly, its price will not be $40, as Trump said, but even lower."”

And this is what the oil price chart looks like, assuming that OPEC has not increased production and Trump has not yet become president, but only announced his plans :




there is no fact to it. the ones you mentioned are from the propaganda of US government. ever heard Ukraine winning against Russia news?  they have been telling everyone in the news about it.
its the same as those what you have been saying. the truth is that Ukraine is losing its people and its losing the lands they have. now tell me you still believe the lies?
your own government telling you that Ukraine is winning?

you can google everything that is said where Russia (USSR) help won against NAZI because its the truth. its not even from wiki that the dems are going to edit when it doesn't fit to their narrative.

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Re: Pump the oil, baby, pump it!
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2024, 10:25:30 PM »
.....

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

When I read your pathetic attempts to somehow justify the terrorist regime of the kremlin and its propaganda, I'll be honest - you look not only stupid but also ridiculous :).
All you could do for all your posts was to repeat repeatedly the nonsense that is close to you, because the reality looks very unpleasant for you, and you couldn't refute any of my facts :)
Thanks for your shows, I will be looking forward to your next historical freak show :)

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Re: Pump the oil, baby, pump it!
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2024, 07:37:18 PM »
.....

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

When I read your pathetic attempts to somehow justify the terrorist regime of the kremlin and its propaganda, I'll be honest - you look not only stupid but also ridiculous :).
All you could do for all your posts was to repeat repeatedly the nonsense that is close to you, because the reality looks very unpleasant for you, and you couldn't refute any of my facts :)
Thanks for your shows, I will be looking forward to your next historical freak show :)

you quoted me and you leave it blank?   i said you can google everything that is said where Russia (USSR) help won against NAZI because its the truth. its not even from wiki that the dems are going to edit when it doesn't fit to their narrative.

what is pathetic is when the terrorist Ukrainians writing the names of their donors on the missiles they shoot to the Russians troops lost their battle, they resort to becoming the victims as propaganda.  all in hopes to be part of NATO when they can;t even be part of EU. dude they have criteria to be part of them, but if the country is a top corrupt country, its never a criteria.

anyway, Maduro knows he could be ousted if the funded party revolts against him. US put a reward to his head afaik but when they need oil, they now have to make business with him.

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Re: Pump the oil, baby, pump it!
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Re: Pump the oil, baby, pump it!
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2024, 03:06:00 PM »
.....

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

When I read your pathetic attempts to somehow justify the terrorist regime of the kremlin and its propaganda, I'll be honest - you look not only stupid but also ridiculous :).
All you could do for all your posts was to repeat repeatedly the nonsense that is close to you, because the reality looks very unpleasant for you, and you couldn't refute any of my facts :)
Thanks for your shows, I will be looking forward to your next historical freak show :)

you quoted me and you leave it blank?   i said you can google everything that is said where Russia (USSR) help won against NAZI because its the truth. its not even from wiki that the dems are going to edit when it doesn't fit to their narrative.

what is pathetic is when the terrorist Ukrainians writing the names of their donors on the missiles they shoot to the Russians troops lost their battle, they resort to becoming the victims as propaganda.  all in hopes to be part of NATO when they can;t even be part of EU. dude they have criteria to be part of them, but if the country is a top corrupt country, its never a criteria.

anyway, Maduro knows he could be ousted if the funded party revolts against him. US put a reward to his head afaik but when they need oil, they now have to make business with him.


I know where you found this nonsense :) It's Kremlin propaganda :)
But you didn't bother to check who started WW2, who was the aggressor, and who then asked for help in fighting Hitler's Nazism (friend of Stalin's communism). These are all HISTORICAL facts that you are just afraid to admit :)
And for the record - USSR fought only on its own territory, losing 1941-1942 ineptly. And after the Allies crushed the Nazi coalition in Europe, the Pacific region, Japan, Africa, Asia, than deprived Germany of forces on the eastern front, the USSR “heroically” reached Berlin. After that it enslaved many countries - Poland, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria.....  And after the collapse of the vile USSR, these countries got freedom and became full-fledged members of the developed world.  Keep reading your delusional fairy tales afraid of REALITY and FACTS.
Let's get back to the topic: the “first swallows” of oil successes of the “strongest economy in the world”, without whose hydrocarbons the world supposedly cannot live :)

Russian refineries cut oil refining due to losses: there is a threat of closure - Reuters.
At least three Russian oil refineries have halted refining or cut output due to significant losses amid export restrictions, rising oil prices and high borrowing costs.
These are the Tuapse, Ilya and Novoshakhtinsk refineries in particular.
According to the newspaper, the closure of oil refineries indicates the problems of the Russian oil refining industry.
According to the newspaper, the crisis reduces fuel exports and decreases the companies' income, which leads to a decrease in revenues to the state budget.
The least technologically advanced Russian refineries, which do not produce premium fuels, have suffered the most. They suffered losses of up to $102 per metric ton for several months of the second half of 2024.

PS No matter how much you believe in nonsense - reality will not change :) And please - if you want to talk about cheap propaganda - find yourself a more appropriate method, where there are similar to you. And in this topic, please write on the topic, without offtopic and flooding.
And one more thing - for you, not to look as stupid as you look now - study the concept of “terrorism”, it's just funny to look at your pathetic attempts to pass off wishful thinking as reality :).

 

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