[Boxing] Tyson Fury Vs Oleksandr Usyk 21 December 2024

[robelneo]

After seeing how much they earn from their first fight and how much they have earned now (btw this this time Usyk received more than Fury), it isnt clear if they should continue boxing. Usyk was always a modest person, and with amount of money he has won, it is enough to live 2-3 lifes without economizing on things. A rematch against Dubois is needed. Dubois was in the ring and challenged Usyk, but I did not understand what Usyk replied, it did not sound as a confirmation for a fight. Why I thought he should return to cruiserweight - because there is now much challenge for him. Fights are more easy than in heavyweights.

Based on the report, he says no problem to Dubois if he wants a rematch, and I believe its going to happen sooner. Fury can't accept that he lost to Usyk; he keeps saying that he won the fight and even congratulates Usyk for the gifts he's gotten from the three judges.
Only his corner believes that he won; AJ scored the fight, an AI also scored the fight, and they gave the fight to Usyk. Fury has too much pride to himself that he cannot accept defeat. I guess its time for him to fight Joshua; they are both losers; they need to win to get back in contention.

[bitbit97]

People knows Usyk will win this again.

I like Fury to win so we'll have a trilogy, but from many indications, Usyk has the edge; he wins in their staredown because Fury blinks a number of times, and it seems Usyk is going on Fury's head based on how he behaves. There is fear in Fury's eyes and movement; he has tasted Usyk's fist and have seen how fast Usyk is, and his defense is very good. If he does not have an answer to Usyk's style in the early rounds of the fight, Usyk will win by decision or by knockout.

Not sure if there will be trilogy, as somewhere I have seen that Usyk plans to return to cruiserweight. I will be logical for Usyk to fight Daniel Dubois for two reasons. First, Daniel Dubois hold IBF heavyweight title, and Usyk only needs this title to be an absolute heavyweight champion. Second reason is that their first fight was a little bit controversial. Some say that Dubois landed a low blow, some say that it was was a clean punch and Usyk was in knockdown. Only money could motivate for a rematch, but I think they will earn for those two fights so many, that it will be enough to retire.

Speaking of low blow, I just watched a video on Facebook regarding their fight, and based on what I saw, it seems like Dubois really punched him below the waist which is clearly a low blow. I mean it's just me because there are some saying that it was a low blow, and some saying that it isn't.

Anyway, we might see a Dubois-Usyk fight possible next year after Dubois defend his title against Parker (if he successfully defends it). I hope he will not return to cruiserweight still until he unifies all of the belts in heavyweight. That would be a better statement and might cement himself as one of the greatest heavyweight boxers of all time.

If Dubois losses to Parker, it will be less interesting story to see Usyk vs Parker, than a rematch between Usyk vs Dubois. So I believe, that judges might help Dubois to win if fight goes full distance and everything will be in judges hands. As to Fury, he is right now in a tricky situation. Second loss in a row. In the past, boxing puppeteers were trying to make Anthony Joshua vs Tyson Fury fight for belt unification and make a huge fight in UK, but Usyk as spoiled everything.

[electronicash]

so is Dubios vs Usyk rematch/unification is not possible?
although people don't see him making clean hits, Fury claimed to he won at least 3 rounds. it doesn't really make a difference why claim just 3.

but it means there is no other fight between the 2 again, its hard enough to watch Fury box like that. the man can't even bend down so, there is no way he can really make a good offense to someone agile as Usyk.

[Agbe]

so is Dubios vs Usyk rematch/unification is not possible?
although people don't see him making clean hits, Fury claimed to he won at least 3 rounds. it doesn't really make a difference why claim just 3.

but it means there is no other fight between the 2 again, its hard enough to watch Fury box like that. the man can't even bend down so, there is no way he can really make a good offense to someone agile as Usyk.

I don't personally see any fight from this two again as Usyk has won the both matches to become the unified undisputed heavy weight championship of the world since 1999, Tyson will have to fight back to the top if he has any chance of fighting against usyk again but it nice seeing one becoming the unified undisputed heavy weight champion in a long while now ending the year defending his title is a good one for usyk let see who's going to challenge him coming next year

[Baofeng]

so is Dubios vs Usyk rematch/unification is not possible?
although people don't see him making clean hits, Fury claimed to he won at least 3 rounds. it doesn't really make a difference why claim just 3.

but it means there is no other fight between the 2 again, its hard enough to watch Fury box like that. the man can't even bend down so, there is no way he can really make a good offense to someone agile as Usyk.

I don't personally see any fight from this two again as Usyk has won the both matches to become the unified undisputed heavy weight championship of the world since 1999, Tyson will have to fight back to the top if he has any chance of fighting against usyk again but it nice seeing one becoming the unified undisputed heavy weight champion in a long while now ending the year defending his title is a good one for usyk let see who's going to challenge him coming next year

And he said that he wants to go back to CW, but I do not think that there is money on that division. So it's better for him to go fight Dubois to really cemented his legacy to be the next HW great after Fury.

It is said that AJ vs Fury as well is possible. We have been clamouring for this fight before as this is a domestic fight and this has been rivals as well for many years and it's about time that they fought before they retire.

[Agbe]

so is Dubios vs Usyk rematch/unification is not possible?
although people don't see him making clean hits, Fury claimed to he won at least 3 rounds. it doesn't really make a difference why claim just 3.

but it means there is no other fight between the 2 again, its hard enough to watch Fury box like that. the man can't even bend down so, there is no way he can really make a good offense to someone agile as Usyk.

I don't personally see any fight from this two again as Usyk has won the both matches to become the unified undisputed heavy weight championship of the world since 1999, Tyson will have to fight back to the top if he has any chance of fighting against usyk again but it nice seeing one becoming the unified undisputed heavy weight champion in a long while now ending the year defending his title is a good one for usyk let see who's going to challenge him coming next year

And he said that he wants to go back to CW, but I do not think that there is money on that division. So it's better for him to go fight Dubois to really cemented his legacy to be the next HW great after Fury.

It is said that AJ vs Fury as well is possible. We have been clamouring for this fight before as this is a domestic fight and this has been rivals as well for many years and it's about time that they fought before they retire.

Joshua vs fury match will not be interested to watch again as both boxers are looking for a way to rekindle their carrier back on to track as both have been beaten, those calling for this Match may not get the best of fights that they desires as both boxers are gradually ageing away this match was really needed some few years back when both fighters where on their peak because as it stands now both Joshua and fury has nothing to going into this game what will they be fighting for is the question that you should ask yourself

[bitbit97]

so is Dubios vs Usyk rematch/unification is not possible?
although people don't see him making clean hits, Fury claimed to he won at least 3 rounds. it doesn't really make a difference why claim just 3.

but it means there is no other fight between the 2 again, its hard enough to watch Fury box like that. the man can't even bend down so, there is no way he can really make a good offense to someone agile as Usyk.

I don't personally see any fight from this two again as Usyk has won the both matches to become the unified undisputed heavy weight championship of the world since 1999, Tyson will have to fight back to the top if he has any chance of fighting against usyk again but it nice seeing one becoming the unified undisputed heavy weight champion in a long while now ending the year defending his title is a good one for usyk let see who's going to challenge him coming next year

And he said that he wants to go back to CW, but I do not think that there is money on that division. So it's better for him to go fight Dubois to really cemented his legacy to be the next HW great after Fury.

It is said that AJ vs Fury as well is possible. We have been clamouring for this fight before as this is a domestic fight and this has been rivals as well for many years and it's about time that they fought before they retire.

I think it depends more from an opponent, not from a division. He can stay in HW and fight those who are top3-5, and he wont get millions that he would get from fighting AJ, Fury or title holder. However, I wish he would fight Dubois and take his belt. This would mean that Alexander Usyk got all belts in CW and all belts in HW. If he would have a title defense, it would even make is legacy more unattainable. Right away, I cant name any other boxer with greater achievements.

[pawel7777]

I haven't (yet) watched the full fight due to lack of time, but from the highlights I've seen Usyk won fair and square. I don't think anyone was screaming about Tyson being robbed outside of his own camp.
I've seen the punches thrown/landed and they're all in favour of Usyk.
If Fury is disappointed with the result, he has himself to blame. After losing the first fight, he should've known that he needed do much more than throw some jabs and hoping that the judges will give it to him. He should've gone for a KO or get dropped trying.

What's next for Fury is a good question. Fury is still a huge name and has plenty of options, but I'm not sure if he will have enough motivation to get excited about fighting any lower-ranked guys where there's no belt on the line.
Maybe fighting Joshua is not a bad idea after all. Fury could use that win to re-bound and maybe earn a position to fight a winner of Dubois-Usyk (if that fight happens at all). I understand that Usyk might not want to fight Fury for the 3rd time, as he has already proven his superiority, but if Dubois was to win, then Dubois Vs Fury would make perfect sense.

[pawel7777]

Regarding options for Fury after his defeat, there's also Joseph Parker, an interim WBO champion. I don't know much about the recent affairs inside the WBO, e.g. is there any deadline for Usyk to fight the interim champ before getting stripped of the belt? But if Usyk was to vacate the WBO title to fight against Dubois for the IBF belt, then, potentially, it could open the door for Fury to have his shot for the WBO title against Parker. And if he was successful, he could then try yet again to win all the other belts back, either from Usyk or Dubois.

[bitbit97]

Both fighters are not young anymore. What do you think would be a best age for them to retire? Or after what achievement should they retire. For Usyk it seems clear - belts unification. For Fury, I dont know how long should he fight more. Usyk has told, that preparation and camp for this fight made him miss half a year of his newborn baby. He saw her when she was about 2months, not when he saw her she already try to speak. When they were younger, they might close eyes on such moments, when people get older, they start to cherish moments they spend with family. So if you are reach, or I would say crazy rich, I would say that it would be a perfect moment to retire and dedicate all life to family.

[Baofeng]

so is Dubios vs Usyk rematch/unification is not possible?
although people don't see him making clean hits, Fury claimed to he won at least 3 rounds. it doesn't really make a difference why claim just 3.

but it means there is no other fight between the 2 again, its hard enough to watch Fury box like that. the man can't even bend down so, there is no way he can really make a good offense to someone agile as Usyk.

I don't personally see any fight from this two again as Usyk has won the both matches to become the unified undisputed heavy weight championship of the world since 1999, Tyson will have to fight back to the top if he has any chance of fighting against usyk again but it nice seeing one becoming the unified undisputed heavy weight champion in a long while now ending the year defending his title is a good one for usyk let see who's going to challenge him coming next year

And he said that he wants to go back to CW, but I do not think that there is money on that division. So it's better for him to go fight Dubois to really cemented his legacy to be the next HW great after Fury.

It is said that AJ vs Fury as well is possible. We have been clamouring for this fight before as this is a domestic fight and this has been rivals as well for many years and it's about time that they fought before they retire.

I think it depends more from an opponent, not from a division. He can stay in HW and fight those who are top3-5, and he wont get millions that he would get from fighting AJ, Fury or title holder. However, I wish he would fight Dubois and take his belt. This would mean that Alexander Usyk got all belts in CW and all belts in HW. If he would have a title defense, it would even make is legacy more unattainable. Right away, I cant name any other boxer with greater achievements.

If you talk about belts, it has been done before,

Crawford became undisputed at 140 lbs and 147 lbs
Inoue at bantamweight and super bantamweight

And so Usyk also has become undisputed at CW also, so that he already accomplished already. Undisputed in CW and HW. So again he had his legacy cemented so it doesn't make sense for him to go down to CW. Dubois or Parker or even Zhang at this point and he had clean the HW for good.

[Agbe]

After seeing how much they earn from their first fight and how much they have earned now (btw this this time Usyk received more than Fury), it isnt clear if they should continue boxing. Usyk was always a modest person, and with amount of money he has won, it is enough to live 2-3 lifes without economizing on things. A rematch against Dubois is needed. Dubois was in the ring and challenged Usyk, but I did not understand what Usyk replied, it did not sound as a confirmation for a fight. Why I thought he should return to cruiserweight - because there is now much challenge for him. Fights are more easy than in heavyweights.

Based on the report, he says no problem to Dubois if he wants a rematch, and I believe its going to happen sooner. Fury can't accept that he lost to Usyk; he keeps saying that he won the fight and even congratulates Usyk for the gifts he's gotten from the three judges.
Only his corner believes that he won; AJ scored the fight, an AI also scored the fight, and they gave the fight to Usyk. Fury has too much pride to himself that he cannot accept defeat. I guess its time for him to fight Joshua; they are both losers; they need to win to get back in contention.

One thing with fury is he likes talking too much and he still believe that he's the best but he got to know that times has changed and he needs to accept it wether he accept the defeat or not he has lost to Usyk in both matches so he and his camp are the only people who has not come to terms with the decision of the judge's I will say that it's all pride because when he was wining other matches through the decision of judge's nobody complain so I will say that it's wrong in his side to fault the decision of the judges maybe the best option now is to fight AJ maybe he can use AJ to come back to wining ways

[robelneo]

And so Usyk also has become undisputed at CW also, so that he already accomplished already. Undisputed in CW and HW. So again he had his legacy cemented so it doesn't make sense for him to go down to CW. Dubois or Parker or even Zhang at this point and he had clean the HW for good.

I agree that he cleaned or wiped the opposition as the greatest heavyweight of this generation; he has beaten two of once and were the greatest champions of this era. He can retire with this legacy.
I think Usyk is good for two more years or three fights before he retires. He should retire as an undefeated and champion to add more records and greatness to his legacy.

[Baofeng]

And so Usyk also has become undisputed at CW also, so that he already accomplished already. Undisputed in CW and HW. So again he had his legacy cemented so it doesn't make sense for him to go down to CW. Dubois or Parker or even Zhang at this point and he had clean the HW for good.

I agree that he cleaned or wiped the opposition as the greatest heavyweight of this generation; he has beaten two of once and were the greatest champions of this era. He can retire with this legacy.
I think Usyk is good for two more years or three fights before he retires. He should retire as an undefeated and champion to add more records and greatness to his legacy.

Yeah, it is already the passing of the torch from Fury to Usyk. But the thing though is that Usyk is not that young anymore and there is a good challenge in him in Dubois that's why as fans we wanted to see him fight this young boxer. After all he is also a champion so he deserves to have a crack against the undisputed Usyk. Although he has beaten Usyk but it was controversial that's why fans are asking for a rematch. Just like when he gave AJ and Fury a rematch and proved his first win as not fluke.

[pawel7777]

There's a lot of speculation going on on what's next for Fury. Meanwhile, I'm reading that Francis Ngannou is seeking for a rematch:
https://businessday.ng/sports/article/ngannou-rules-out-anthony-joshua-rematch-eyes-fury-showdown/

“A rematch with Joshua? I felt very off and not comfortable in that fight. It’s something that could happen, but what I do know for sure is I want the rematch with Fury,” Ngannou said.

I don't see it as likely to happen, it would still be a good payday for Ngannou, as he would probably receive much more than in any mma fight, but it's a horrible option for Fury, if he is serious about getting back to the top.