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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2024, 05:32:17 PM »
But I have a little experience about the crypto market... the market always go in an opposite direction whenever I place any trade.
Even if the trade is speculated correctly and ends up on a perfect prediction, the market must always move opposite to the trade before bouncing back....

Iam not a trader, as i it always happens to me as well.

What i found very useful and successful to me is to stop trading and thinking only about long term.

Buy something thinking about holding for years. What happens daily is irrelevant, because I won't sell anyway.

Of course now isn't the best time to buy, as most cryptocurrencies are near their ATH. But if you do have conviction that the price movement will be upward in the future you can buy.
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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2024, 05:32:17 PM »

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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2024, 07:20:34 AM »
This has happened to me several times before, I really get the feeling that the market is watching me all the time and is doing the opposite to the directions I choose, it always happens the opposite when you buy the coin goes down and when you sell it goes up.

A trader gets this feeling when he makes several losing trades, but the reality is definitely not like that, as you gain more experience you will learn that the secret is in patience and choosing the right time to enter and exit trades, that's all.
I think that you actually create correct decision in your post. So i think your opinion will be prefer in this time. I also see market in this time. We also saw that's crypto currency market is one of the best level in this moment. So if we want to invest or hold in bitcoin or others crypto currency, i believe that it will be very risky for us. But we also know that if we want to hold or invest in cryptocurrency market we must following in down market. Because down market will be very prefer for holder or investors. So if we want to best benefit from crypto currency market we must understanding in cryptocurrency market.
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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2024, 10:23:53 AM »
But I have a little experience about the crypto market... the market always go in an opposite direction whenever I place any trade.
Even if the trade is speculated correctly and ends up on a perfect prediction, the market must always move opposite to the trade before bouncing back....

Iam not a trader, as i it always happens to me as well.

What i found very useful and successful to me is to stop trading and thinking only about long term.

Buy something thinking about holding for years. What happens daily is irrelevant, because I won't sell anyway.

Of course now isn't the best time to buy, as most cryptocurrencies are near their ATH. But if you do have conviction that the price movement will be upward in the future you can buy.

I understand your motive of HODLing instead of trading, but when you push the trading area aside I guess one can't gain the experience and probably daily or weekly profit as the case may be. For the area of HODLing, I have some assets on HODL too but the profit to be realized here takes much longer time, that's the major reason I had to also start the journey of becoming a successful trader.
But since I started observing the market going on opposite direction to my trade, I had to raise this topic to get some necessary information and advice from those traders who has more experience in the crypto market and with the comments from most users in this forum, I see that it's something that I have to encounter in other to grow more professional in making trade decisions.
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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2024, 03:48:20 PM »
This has happened to me several times before, I really get the feeling that the market is watching me all the time and is doing the opposite to the directions I choose, it always happens the opposite when you buy the coin goes down and when you sell it goes up.

A trader gets this feeling when he makes several losing trades, but the reality is definitely not like that, as you gain more experience you will learn that the secret is in patience and choosing the right time to enter and exit trades, that's all.
I think that you actually create correct decision in your post. So i think your opinion will be prefer in this time. I also see market in this time. We also saw that's crypto currency market is one of the best level in this moment. So if we want to invest or hold in bitcoin or others crypto currency, i believe that it will be very risky for us. But we also know that if we want to hold or invest in cryptocurrency market we must following in down market. Because down market will be very prefer for holder or investors. So if we want to best benefit from crypto currency market we must understanding in cryptocurrency market.
when the market goes down we can buy potential coins, prioritize buying top coins because these coins are safer to own. but if you have experience investing in new projects, you can invest there. Each person has their own considerations and expertise in investing. I don't have much experience in doing research on new projects, so I prefer to invest in top coins.
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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2024, 04:48:09 PM »
This has happened to me several times before, I really get the feeling that the market is watching me all the time and is doing the opposite to the directions I choose, it always happens the opposite when you buy the coin goes down and when you sell it goes up.

A trader gets this feeling when he makes several losing trades, but the reality is definitely not like that, as you gain more experience you will learn that the secret is in patience and choosing the right time to enter and exit trades, that's all.

Then I think you need to start doing the opposite of what you have in mind so you can test out your observations. ;D Jokes one side, that's how the crypto market has been and you can't just do anything about it than to follow it. You know that they say the trend is your friend and you just have to forget what you think and follow the money.

I have never thought Solana will make this run of a market even though I believe in the project to make a good investment but I never expected it this far and I was wrong but who cares about what I think, I long the market at some points and make my money.
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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2024, 05:55:54 PM »
Then I think you need to start doing the opposite of what you have in mind so you can test out your observations. ;D Jokes one side, that's how the crypto market has been and you can't just do anything about it than to follow it. You know that they say the trend is your friend and you just have to forget what you think and follow the money.

I have never thought Solana will make this run of a market even though I believe in the project to make a good investment but I never expected it this far and I was wrong but who cares about what I think, I long the market at some points and make my money.
This happens to most new traders, I think it's just a psychological state, you just need to be patient and know the trends.

Here's an expressive image I took from Telegram (maybe it was posted by someone who is going through the same feeling) This image expresses this topic and many of the situations that many beginners go through in the market:


I think it's a psychological issue that fades away with time and experience.

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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2024, 10:48:58 PM »
true, without knowledge a person will not last long in trading and they will even go bankrupt, in trading one must have knowledge about crypto even in analyzing the market and making a strategy or plan so that fear will not arise in a person and this person will be able to control himself so as not to fall into losses.

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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2024, 10:48:58 PM »


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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2024, 06:10:17 PM »
true, without knowledge a person will not last long in trading and they will even go bankrupt, in trading one must have knowledge about crypto even in analyzing the market and making a strategy or plan so that fear will not arise in a person and this person will be able to control himself so as not to fall into losses.
Ensuring that one has enough knowledge before venturing into the world of crypto trading is something basic to achieving numerous weeks. If we know how the market behaves and have a plan on what to do based on that information, then we are better armed to deal with those changing conditions appropriately. It assists us not to make hasty decisions that in the end are counterproductive, so that it is easier to take more precise actions.

Also, the ability to control emotions is important in order to exist in a limited space in the conditions of the unplanned moment. Where there is a concrete plan then the odds of being pressured into making bad decisions are greatly reduced. If every step is carried out and analysed, there is always a chance to enhance the capabilities, and gain the improvement that will help open the possibility to achieve vastly better results.
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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2024, 08:48:37 PM »
But I have a little experience about the crypto market... the market always go in an opposite direction whenever I place any trade.
Even if the trade is speculated correctly and ends up on a perfect prediction, the market must always move opposite to the trade before bouncing back....
The market is not watching you, just that you have the wrong entry point.

You need to work on your entry point into the market. This is one reason traders are encouraged to be patient, because patience will also be important in making sure an opportunity you see is really one before you take a trade on it. If you enter the market at a point where the market is manipulating, you will be cut out.
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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2024, 11:05:53 PM »


I think it's a psychological issue that fades away with time and experience.
+1 for you, thanks for this very nice picture.
I saw this picture and it is true that this often happens. There is indeed an emotional game in this case and I thought you were the only one who felt this way, but, in fact, this is indeed entering the psychological market. Imagine if this is the condition we feel and we immediately give up at that time and then immediately make a sudden decision with CL or panic buy and panic sell again, then it will have a bad impact on us. we become without a handle for what we have taken.

the meaning is, we must be able to anticipate things like this to continue. at least, we must do further analysis before making a decision to sell, buy, or hold. and, even if we have sold, well, forget it and take the positive side to optimize profits from other trading. and if we have bought but the price continues to fall, just leave it, as long as we believe that the coin has the potential to rise at some point, just leave it as a holding

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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2024, 11:13:59 PM »
In respect to trading crypto, it is obvious that a trader must have a grounded knowledge on trading before venturing into it otherwise he'll be recording losses on any of his trades.
Even up to the professional traders, they also have the strategies and risk management techniques to maximize profit and reduce loss.

But I have a little experience about the crypto market... the market always go in an opposite direction whenever I place any trade.
Even if the trade is speculated correctly and ends up on a perfect prediction, the market must always move opposite to the trade before bouncing back....

I begin to feel the market is watching ones trade in a way....

How many of you have experienced this and do you feel the market is watching ones trade?
I also was in the same dilemma and I think everyone was in this phase once but for now I don't think I am making trades according to the market sentiments. First realize that it's not the market that moves against your predictions instead it's you who is making predictions against the market flow.

I think the reason behind it, you are trading in alts and you are not keeping an eye or tracking the price of BTC. I was doing the same but now whenever I have to make trade in alts first I chose the big cap alts like top 50 and then I see the behavior of BTC for the next 1 to 4 days using support, resistance and news only.

Once I get the idea that the lowest it can go here, I bought half at current market price and set the buy order to that low point if it hits okay otherwise I won't regret not buying it as I already bought at CMP. Now wait for the market to go in your favor and book the profit whenever you think it's enough for you and don't book the capital because you are already trading in big cap tokens and they are the next in line to pump hard.

Overall making profit this way is very safe in my sight. What you think?
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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2024, 05:13:14 AM »
the meaning is, we must be able to anticipate things like this to continue. at least, we must do further analysis before making a decision to sell, buy, or hold. and, even if we have sold, well, forget it and take the positive side to optimize profits from other trading. and if we have bought but the price continues to fall, just leave it, as long as we believe that the coin has the potential to rise at some point, just leave it as a holding
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Yes, this is a very important point that you mentioned "as long as we believe that the coin has the potential to rise at some point, just leave it as a holding" This is true for coins that have a strong project and a good rank in the market, but with new coins and shitcoins, perhaps the best decision is to sell at a small loss, better than continuing to lose.

It happened to me sometimes that I bought shitcoin and its price fell, so I left it as a holding until it rose again, but it continued to fall more and more until it lost its value and the value of my holding of it fell from about $200 to about $10 only, it would have been better to sell it at a loss of 20-30% instead of this big loss.

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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2024, 06:50:36 AM »
I get you OP. I always feel like my luck is terrible whenever I trade. The image above really suits my situation since nearly 90% of my decisions result in loss. That being said, I decided to take a step back from the market and analyze what went wrong with my decisions. I think I can attribute that to market situations, impatience, terrible analysis, and so on. So yeah, at the end of the day, I learn something new from that. The market has nothing against me, my skills just suck sadly.

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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2024, 08:34:23 AM »
I truly understand you OP. But the bigger problem comes when a trader continues to have these feeling that the market is against him without him reviewing his strategies and dealing with those emotions that might make him make some impulsive decisions. There is no point for any trader to be too hard on himself, improvements takes time.

Trading needs a good strategy/analysis and ofcourse more of self discipline and patience. Losses are bound to happen at anytime, so a trader should endeavour to study the market behaviour and practice risks management while still working on his skills.
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Re: Does the market watch somebody?
« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2024, 02:16:50 PM »
I truly understand you OP. But the bigger problem comes when a trader continues to have these feeling that the market is against him without him reviewing his strategies and dealing with those emotions that might make him make some impulsive decisions. There is no point for any trader to be too hard on himself, improvements takes time.
what a lot of people might not want to hear is that you won’t be perfect in anything the first time around there should and will always be room for improvement for anything you start to learn and most especially this applies to trading it will nit be very sudden that you will be immediately good at it there’s no such thing like that but giving up the first moment you encounter a hindrance is also something you shouldn’t do be patient and push harder

 

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