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president vs vice president
« on: November 26, 2024, 06:52:16 AM »
in every country, it is inevitable that the president and the vice president comes from different political parties with this said they should still be able to work together and properly for the sake of the country

interesting matters happening in the Philippines right now where the president and the vice president who were in one political party during the election are now turning in on each other they both supported and endorsed each other they won by a landslide and now it seems like the government is unstable due to their differences it was even reported that they don’t talk to each other anymore

the vice president went public and said that if she were to ever die, they should look for the president and have him assassinated

how crucial it is for the president and the vice president to be able to work together despite differences? what could be the massive consequences of having two leaders of the country hate each other and publicly make threats?

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president vs vice president
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Re: president vs vice president
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2024, 12:34:31 PM »
Actually this is the first time I'm hearing that some countries the president and the vice president are from different parties. In my country it can never happen that way that the president and the vice president are from different parties.
That one would result to a great war even just after 1 week of swearing them in.
The case of the Philippians I think maybe it is a case of demanding and maybe because the vice is a woman. But I don't really know.
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Re: president vs vice president
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2024, 12:34:31 PM »

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Re: president vs vice president
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2024, 06:28:12 PM »
Down here, a presidential candidate chooses who will be his vice or let me say that, the party brings out the president and the vice. It's not possible for two different party to be in power at the same as a president and a vice president. However, the president is the number one citizen in the country and has the final say in the country. The vice doesn't have any power when the president is on seat. Similar thing happened in my country and the vice left the office, while the president continued ruling.

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Re: president vs vice president
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2024, 06:51:00 PM »
in every country, it is inevitable that the president and the vice president comes from different political parties with this said they should still be able to work together and properly for the sake of the country

Different countries have different kinds of government that they practice because where am from both president and vice must come from the same party it's someone that Can be loyal to the president that will be chosen to become the vice president for the sake of loyalty because problem will always come up when you have someone from another party as the vice president because there will be class of interest as the both leaders are from different parties so they will be having different opinions on national matter's because they belongs to different parties with varying opinion so the case of Philippines your talking about is a class of power and who wants to control the government

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Re: president vs vice president
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2024, 07:48:38 PM »
Are you referring the opposition leader as vice president?

Vice president is someone who is choosen by the elected candidate for president and they will work together because no one is going to pick someone if they are not sure about their cooperation.

Meanwhile there are still many countries have different political system like prime minister holds the most powerful than the president.
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Re: president vs vice president
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2024, 10:29:57 PM »
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how crucial it is for the president and the vice president to be able to work together despite differences?
It is ideal but things don't always go as they wanted. If one of them changes their goal when seated in the office, then expect a rift to form. In the case of the Philippines, I believe this has turned out to be loyalty to family (and backers) vs. loyalty to the country. I think the VP tried her best to keep the spirit of the 'UniTeam' but the other party pushed her too hard to achieve their political interest and now she's fighting back.

The economic impact could be catastrophic if this escalates further but you know, investors are already leaving or the pledges are not fulfilled/realized because of President's decisions. It's more dangerous for them to invest in a country that's likely to be another country's cannon fodder.

Are you referring the opposition leader as vice president?

Vice president is someone who is choosen by the elected candidate for president and they will work together because no one is going to pick someone if they are not sure about their cooperation.
President and Vice President are voted separately in the Philippines.

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Re: president vs vice president
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2024, 10:59:32 PM »
in every country, it is inevitable that the president and the vice president comes from different political parties with this said they should still be able to work together and properly for the sake of the country

This is definitely wrong and you should really give examples about this inevitable stuff!

First is that in most countries in which there is a president and a vice president the vice president is nominated by the president alone, so it will not be from the other party, second is that a lot of countries don't have a vice president but either a prime minister or speaker of the house.
So this entire topic starts from a false premise!



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Re: president vs vice president
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2024, 11:51:17 PM »
in every country, it is inevitable that the president and the vice president comes from different political parties with this said they should still be able to work together and properly for the sake of the country

This is definitely wrong and you should really give examples about this inevitable stuff!

First is that in most countries in which there is a president and a vice president the vice president is nominated by the president alone, so it will not be from the other party, second is that a lot of countries don't have a vice president but either a prime minister or speaker of the house.
So this entire topic starts from a false premise!
Actually, that's the kind of government system we have, both position is elected by the people regardless what party they came in, it's the popularity vote. In the last admin both (Pres and VP) have different parties. This time, current admin different party too but signed an agreement to unite these parties "UniTeam" and then run as one, then both win. But sadly things got bitter for both started to show the stench of their political agenda, personality, and so on.
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Re: president vs vice president
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2024, 08:47:09 AM »
Actually this is the first time I'm hearing that some countries the president and the vice president are from different parties. In my country it can never happen that way that the president and the vice president are from different parties.
That one would result to a great war even just after 1 week of swearing them in.
it’s not ideal for sure but is it impossible in your country? is it because of the way the election is done or do the people of your country really just loyal to one party? in my country this is not so uncommon the last president and vice president were also from opposing parties and didn’t have each other as their respective president and vice
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The case of the Philippians I think maybe it is a case of demanding and maybe because the vice is a woman. But I don't really know.
what does the vice president being a woman have to do with anything? even if the vice was a man and he was in opposing party he and the president would still clash

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Re: president vs vice president
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2024, 08:36:01 PM »
Actually this is the first time I'm hearing that some countries the president and the vice president are from different parties. In my country it can never happen that way that the president and the vice president are from different parties.
That one would result to a great war even just after 1 week of swearing them in.
it’s not ideal for sure but is it impossible in your country? is it because of the way the election is done or do the people of your country really just loyal to one party? in my country this is not so uncommon the last president and vice president were also from opposing parties and didn’t have each other as their respective president and vice
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The case of the Philippians I think maybe it is a case of demanding and maybe because the vice is a woman. But I don't really know.
what does the vice president being a woman have to do with anything? even if the vice was a man and he was in opposing party he and the president would still clash

in other country, whenever they vote a president they also vote for its vice.
its only in our country where the president's party is different from the vice. its intentionally done by the oligarchs in the country to make it easier to destabilize whenever the president doesn't go with their choices.

Bongbong, obeys them cuase if he don't he ends up like how his father being kicked.  those oligarchs must have offered the wealth of late Marcos Sr. be returned if he just allow the oligarchs get even with the Dutertes.


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Re: president vs vice president
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2024, 10:53:53 PM »
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Bongbong, obeys them cuase if he don't he ends up like how his father being kicked.  those oligarchs must have offered the wealth of late Marcos Sr. be returned if he just allow the oligarchs get even with the Dutertes.
I've been reading that it's the US that made a promise to unfreeze those frozen 'fruits'. It's the reason why we have their military bases here now. I think Sarah's opposition to bongbong's foreign policies that attacks on her started (e.g. allowing afghan refugees here). As for the local oligarchs, they are definitely milking bongbong's presidency right now. He seems to have a heavy baggage like FPRRD said.

There were also some posts going around that 'loyalty checks' were distributed to members of the congress in support of the speaker of the house and the president ;D

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Re: president vs vice president
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2024, 05:28:19 PM »
In my country, having a president and vice president from different political parties is not practical. Different political parties have their own ideologies and plans they want to implement when in office. Since the constitution allows for these two offices to be occupied by members of different parties, it should also include clear ways to resolve conflicts that may arise between them due to their differing interests. If such conflicts are left unresolved, they could harm the country's economy and its people
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Re: president vs vice president
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2024, 06:26:13 PM »
Well yeah what's happening in the country right now is I think because of the oligarchs personal interest and there are actually a lot of things that happened though I am not a political type of guy but based on what I have observed the administration is trying to kick the Dutertes team out of power they are trying to cripple it's foundation because somebody's dictating the President to do something against the Dutertes because look who are those people that critizes him on social media and on television it's likely the previous opposition and those rebel front that is in the congress. The country is full of BS right now I mean chaos we are facing threats both external and internal and yet politicians are busy throwing sh|t at each other, instead of working as a team to help the country great again!

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Re: president vs vice president
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2024, 06:51:36 PM »
in every country, it is inevitable that the president and the vice president comes from different political parties with this said they should still be able to work together and properly for the sake of the country

In my own country and under the political settings, the president and his vice do comes from the same political party, except for other settings or organizations whereby this is not permitted, because they both stand out to have campaigned together under the same political party, i don't know if there are other settings whereby this different parties is being applied, but in my own country, that is the norms.

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Re: president vs vice president
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2024, 10:28:14 PM »
Actually, that's the kind of government system we have, both position is elected by the people regardless what party they came in, it's the popularity vote. In the last admin both (Pres and VP) have different parties. This time, current admin different party too but signed an agreement to unite these parties "UniTeam" and then run as one, then both win. But sadly things got bitter for both started to show the stench of their political agenda, personality, and so on.

Doesn't really help when you're not saying which country it is and I have to figure it out, but again, you are wrong on your own issue.
Your president and vice-president were running mates, it doesn't matter what party they were if they chose to be allied, they were registered as the same alliance, what you were talking about being from the opposition would be a combination of Marcos and Pangilinan which obviously didn't happen!

So again, it's not inevitable at all, look at India, look at Argentina, and there are dozens more.

 

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